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	<title>Comments on: TeleNav Makes Turn-by-Turn Navigation for Android G1 &#8212; Where&#8217;s the iPhone App?!</title>
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		<title>By: Jacquiline Doskocil</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-409601</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacquiline Doskocil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Abhorson</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-210257</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhorson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pamaf2003</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-104998</link>
		<dc:creator>pamaf2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have telenav with my Blackberry, and I believe is not a bad deal for 9.99 a month...Traffic alerts included and all maps updates included..non differences big with the &quot;real deal&quot; in terms of performances..Just my 2c&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have telenav with my Blackberry, and I believe is not a bad deal for 9.99 a month&#8230;Traffic alerts included and all maps updates included..non differences big with the &#8220;real deal&#8221; in terms of performances..Just my 2c</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Getmoney22</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-60040</link>
		<dc:creator>Getmoney22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hilarious!!! I wish that I would pay $9.99 a month, $99 a year, or $249 for four years to keep the service. I&#039;ll just go to BestBuy and purchase the real deal.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious!!! I wish that I would pay $9.99 a month, $99 a year, or $249 for four years to keep the service. I&#8217;ll just go to BestBuy and purchase the real deal.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: gtd</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-32575</link>
		<dc:creator>gtd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;F**k apple!  Get your heads out and make this thing work.  It is sooo arrogant of them.  Its like showing a kid the ice cream, and saying to hold off for a year, and maybe then you can eat it.  Speaking of eating it?  Apple, please do so!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F**k apple!  Get your heads out and make this thing work.  It is sooo arrogant of them.  Its like showing a kid the ice cream, and saying to hold off for a year, and maybe then you can eat it.  Speaking of eating it?  Apple, please do so!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sleeks</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-31826</link>
		<dc:creator>sleeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d be satisfied if Google maps would rotate so your direction of travel would always be up on the phone.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be satisfied if Google maps would rotate so your direction of travel would always be up on the phone.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-31742</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Strangely, it varies a lot for me in Canada, anywhere from a few meters to a block.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even more strangely, when I was using the Android G1 on Rogers, the GPS routinely placed me 3 blocks or more from where I was.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wonder if the aGPS isn&#039;t always benefitting from the cell towers?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely, it varies a lot for me in Canada, anywhere from a few meters to a block.</p>

<p>Even more strangely, when I was using the Android G1 on Rogers, the GPS routinely placed me 3 blocks or more from where I was.</p>

<p>I wonder if the aGPS isn&#8217;t always benefitting from the cell towers?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-31739</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your iphone must be messed up. The gps chipset and antenna are the ones used in TOMTOM units. My google maps and g-map app work perfectly. Mostly within 1-5 meters of where I am.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your iphone must be messed up. The gps chipset and antenna are the ones used in TOMTOM units. My google maps and g-map app work perfectly. Mostly within 1-5 meters of where I am.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Murray Henson</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-31688</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Henson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have a theory regarding Apple&#039;s dislike of jailbreaking and regarding the lack of more advanced GPS-based functionality on the iPhone:  The hardware isn&#039;t good enough to support what people want to do with it.  Jailbreaking is frustrating, then, because people expose hardware deficiencies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I jailbreaked my iPhone the day I bought it so I&#039;ve had MMS (Swirly), video recording (Cycorder), call filtering (mcleaner), skins/themes, and now turn-by-turn with xGPS.  The stuff that has nothing to do with the hardware works fine.  Because I&#039;m not 14 I don&#039;t really have much call for MMS&#039;s but it seemed to work fine the few times I tried it.  The call filtering stuff works splendidly.  But Cycorder&#039;s videos, while watchable, aren&#039;t great.  Mostly because the camera isn&#039;t great.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And... xGPS does work.  It just doesn&#039;t work very well, because the GPS doesn&#039;t work very well.  I&#039;ve rarely, if ever, seen accuracy better than +/- 50 meters with the no matter which app I was using and, with xGPS, that means that it often sees me on a side street or the opposite side of the street and freaks out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I assume that Apple was well aware of these limitations and instead of permitting poor video recording and flaky turn-by-turn navigation they just didn&#039;t make it an option.  Unfortunately, since they also removed that option from 3rd party developers, they went a bit too far.  I&#039;d rather have crappy video and crappy turn-by-turn navigation than none at all... because while I do have a perfectly good GPS (Garmin GPSMap 60Cx) and a perfectly good little camera that also records videos, I&#039;d rather not have to drag them out, turn them on, etc.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is a limitation to how much tech anyone can jam into a given space and right now there&#039;s just not enough space and resources available in a sub-$500 device.  Maybe in a few years they&#039;ll have gotten it to the point where they think it is good enough for it to be &quot;official&quot;.  Until then, I and other jailbreakers will make do with what we&#039;ve got.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a theory regarding Apple&#8217;s dislike of jailbreaking and regarding the lack of more advanced GPS-based functionality on the iPhone:  The hardware isn&#8217;t good enough to support what people want to do with it.  Jailbreaking is frustrating, then, because people expose hardware deficiencies.</p>

<p>I jailbreaked my iPhone the day I bought it so I&#8217;ve had MMS (Swirly), video recording (Cycorder), call filtering (mcleaner), skins/themes, and now turn-by-turn with xGPS.  The stuff that has nothing to do with the hardware works fine.  Because I&#8217;m not 14 I don&#8217;t really have much call for MMS&#8217;s but it seemed to work fine the few times I tried it.  The call filtering stuff works splendidly.  But Cycorder&#8217;s videos, while watchable, aren&#8217;t great.  Mostly because the camera isn&#8217;t great.</p>

<p>And&#8230; xGPS does work.  It just doesn&#8217;t work very well, because the GPS doesn&#8217;t work very well.  I&#8217;ve rarely, if ever, seen accuracy better than +/- 50 meters with the no matter which app I was using and, with xGPS, that means that it often sees me on a side street or the opposite side of the street and freaks out.</p>

<p>I assume that Apple was well aware of these limitations and instead of permitting poor video recording and flaky turn-by-turn navigation they just didn&#8217;t make it an option.  Unfortunately, since they also removed that option from 3rd party developers, they went a bit too far.  I&#8217;d rather have crappy video and crappy turn-by-turn navigation than none at all&#8230; because while I do have a perfectly good GPS (Garmin GPSMap 60Cx) and a perfectly good little camera that also records videos, I&#8217;d rather not have to drag them out, turn them on, etc.  </p>

<p>There is a limitation to how much tech anyone can jam into a given space and right now there&#8217;s just not enough space and resources available in a sub-$500 device.  Maybe in a few years they&#8217;ll have gotten it to the point where they think it is good enough for it to be &#8220;official&#8221;.  Until then, I and other jailbreakers will make do with what we&#8217;ve got.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sean peters</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-31673</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;no kidding. I could buy a dedicated GPS unit for the price of a few years of this subscription service.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no kidding. I could buy a dedicated GPS unit for the price of a few years of this subscription service.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sting7k</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-31654</link>
		<dc:creator>Sting7k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well the response from TeleNav suggest one thing to me.  They are bound by an NDA, could they already be working with Apple for a built in app for iPhone 3.0?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In any case, if any GPS software has a monthly fee you can count me out.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the response from TeleNav suggest one thing to me.  They are bound by an NDA, could they already be working with Apple for a built in app for iPhone 3.0?</p>

<p>In any case, if any GPS software has a monthly fee you can count me out.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Richxps</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/13/telenav-turnbyturn-navigation-android-g1-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-31638</link>
		<dc:creator>Richxps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just dont understand why Apple is making it so hard for more than just GPS. If it can be done let it be done already.. WTF Apple&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just dont understand why Apple is making it so hard for more than just GPS. If it can be done let it be done already.. WTF Apple</p>]]></content:encoded>
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