Comments on: TiPb Advisory: Not a Developer and Thinking of Going to 3.0? Think Twice! http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/ More of everything iPhone and iPad Sat, 26 May 2012 18:25:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: FatKatz http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-40118 FatKatz Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:20:35 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-40118 <p>3.0 BETA 2 has no issues. Works very fast and smooth!! Even better than 2.2.1!!!! Try it yourself!! Click on the link above!!!</p> 3.0 BETA 2 has no issues. Works very fast and smooth!! Even better than 2.2.1!!!! Try it yourself!! Click on the link above!!!

]]> By: FatKatz http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-40117 FatKatz Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:19:29 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-40117 <p>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260386741317</p> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260386741317

]]> By: Jay http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-38493 Jay Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:54:51 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-38493 <p>all your base belong to us!</p> all your base belong to us!

]]> By: Jay http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-38492 Jay Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:53:36 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-38492 <p>I am going to sell it 150 per apple account. 50 bucks profit per account. Lulz to that, pwn the noobs who say no. Money is had, and it aint no thing. peace!</p> I am going to sell it 150 per apple account. 50 bucks profit per account. Lulz to that, pwn the noobs who say no. Money is had, and it aint no thing. peace!

]]> By: jp http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37709 jp Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:41:18 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37709 <p>amen to peter wood...</p> amen to peter wood...

]]> By: Peter Wood http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37677 Peter Wood Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:47:10 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37677 <p>I am using safari 4.0 and its a beta - enjoy 3.0. Not all in life is error free. It makes for an interesting life and stop pot shoting at each other.</p> I am using safari 4.0 and its a beta - enjoy 3.0. Not all in life is error free. It makes for an interesting life and stop pot shoting at each other.

]]> By: DDay http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37635 DDay Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:47:21 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37635 <p>The fact that the 3.0 release this summer is likely to be screwy, there's no way in Hell I'd touch it now.</p> The fact that the 3.0 release this summer is likely to be screwy, there's no way in Hell I'd touch it now.

]]> By: jp http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37604 jp Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:56 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37604 <p>I have the 3.0 fw and it's sometimes laggy but IMO better than the released 2.0 and no dropped calls. I can live with this and cut and paste and mms. Enjoy going to the archaic viewmymessage.com site.</p> I have the 3.0 fw and it's sometimes laggy but IMO better than the released 2.0 and no dropped calls. I can live with this and cut and paste and mms. Enjoy going to the archaic viewmymessage.com site.

]]> By: saber http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37586 saber Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:58:10 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37586 <p>you silly iphone guys argue like a bunch of children</p> you silly iphone guys argue like a bunch of children

]]> By: Ben http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37553 Ben Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:36:23 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37553 <p>At the end of the day if you are not a dev and were given a copy or a bittorrent you have no right to use the bloody f/w anyway. Stop whineing that tipb have actually taken the time to advise the impatient that they might render thier iPhone useless. </p> <p>Would you steal you car before it left the factory when you were going to pick it up from the dealer anyway in a month when it was finishedb eing built? Thought not.</p> At the end of the day if you are not a dev and were given a copy or a bittorrent you have no right to use the bloody f/w anyway. Stop whineing that tipb have actually taken the time to advise the impatient that they might render thier iPhone useless.

Would you steal you car before it left the factory when you were going to pick it up from the dealer anyway in a month when it was finishedb eing built? Thought not.

]]> By: DDay http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37548 DDay Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:30:12 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37548 <p>@Matty:</p> <p>Yes, you clearly have a problem with people telling you what to do. You should take that up with your parents, not tipb. I'm sorry if your curfew never exceeded 11:00 PM, but the last thing you should do is take it out on us. That's being passive agressive. That's a no-no. M'kay?</p> @Matty:

Yes, you clearly have a problem with people telling you what to do. You should take that up with your parents, not tipb. I'm sorry if your curfew never exceeded 11:00 PM, but the last thing you should do is take it out on us. That's being passive agressive. That's a no-no. M'kay?

]]> By: MOLO http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37545 MOLO Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:55:48 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37545 <p>to #5 I have most of those problems on my iPhone 3g as it is without going to 3.00</p> to #5 I have most of those problems on my iPhone 3g as it is without going to 3.00

]]> By: iPhoneDeveloper http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37519 iPhoneDeveloper Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:52:45 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37519 <p>To MattyFresh: I know you are, but what am I?</p> <p>Geez. Imagine, people putting opinion in the comment section.</p> To MattyFresh: I know you are, but what am I?

Geez. Imagine, people putting opinion in the comment section.

]]> By: MattyFresh http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37511 MattyFresh Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:15:26 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37511 <p>a friend f mine uses it and its just fine you people kill me go kill a zipper head if ya got problems otherwise opinions are your own which are worth nothing</p> a friend f mine uses it and its just fine you people kill me go kill a zipper head if ya got problems otherwise opinions are your own which are worth nothing

]]> By: MattyFresh http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37510 MattyFresh Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:13:55 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37510 <p>@ dday where do you get mommy and daddy issues ?? sounds like a personal problem to me</p> @ dday where do you get mommy and daddy issues ?? sounds like a personal problem to me

]]> By: antonioj http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37493 antonioj Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:39:33 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37493 <p>iPhoneDeveloper, some people seem to be able to downgrade...it is not impossible</p> iPhoneDeveloper, some people seem to be able to downgrade...it is not impossible

]]> By: Chobbs http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37480 Chobbs Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:24:42 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37480 <p>Matty sounds like he thinks he deserves the non released 3.0 software. I say... Go get it matty, you'll get exactly what you deserve. Oh! And don't forget to tell all your freinds to get it too! They will love you for it!</p> <p>Btw... Excellent article!</p> Matty sounds like he thinks he deserves the non released 3.0 software. I say... Go get it matty, you'll get exactly what you deserve. Oh! And don't forget to tell all your freinds to get it too! They will love you for it!

Btw... Excellent article!

]]> By: Peter Wood http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37479 Peter Wood Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:24:29 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37479 <p>I loaded the beta earlier this week just because it gave my iphone a bit of intrigue again. The beta does have bugs and I found a couple again today. Can I live with them knowing that my iphone has taken a massive leap forward and made me take it about to show people again. Its Fantastic - copy and paste is great, search is great, MMS is great, ipod works - sound vanished after I tried the voice recorder - but I love it. It makes me feel involved and I am even considering buying a mac because I feel someone cares enough to dish out a beta that I think is as good as any sony ericsoon Symbian release I every had.</p> <p>Keep it up.</p> I loaded the beta earlier this week just because it gave my iphone a bit of intrigue again. The beta does have bugs and I found a couple again today. Can I live with them knowing that my iphone has taken a massive leap forward and made me take it about to show people again. Its Fantastic - copy and paste is great, search is great, MMS is great, ipod works - sound vanished after I tried the voice recorder - but I love it. It makes me feel involved and I am even considering buying a mac because I feel someone cares enough to dish out a beta that I think is as good as any sony ericsoon Symbian release I every had.

Keep it up.

]]> By: Rocky Romero http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37478 Rocky Romero Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:16:15 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37478 <p>I'm convinced.</p> <p>I thought that it might be possible to be a developer.</p> <p>Now, I'm searching for a developer.</p> I'm convinced.

I thought that it might be possible to be a developer.

Now, I'm searching for a developer.

]]> By: Bill Taroli http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37477 Bill Taroli Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:14:17 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37477 <p>Well, I think this post completely goes without saying. Beta is beta no matter what a developer's spin on it. But it is <em>beta</em>, not <em>alpha</em>. By beta, most things should generally be working but potentially require workarounds. Bugs are possible, at any stage of the game.</p> <p>Personally, there is enough new stuff going on in this beta that if it meant giving up a few items (like my beloved jailbreak) in order to experience and test them out then I'd be all for it. I guess that makes me one of those geeky early adopter types. When I was a Treo user, I was one of those who applied beta firmware images from overseas leaks to get fixes ASAP that Palm wasn't letting out the GA door fast enough too.</p> <p>To each his own... but beta is exactly that no matter who says it. Just because Google may have deadened people's sensitive to the term, it doesn't mean I trust my data any more with those products than I do with anyone else's beta -- and it's why I have been very slow to adopt many of the newer google tools in daily use.</p> Well, I think this post completely goes without saying. Beta is beta no matter what a developer's spin on it. But it is beta, not alpha. By beta, most things should generally be working but potentially require workarounds. Bugs are possible, at any stage of the game.

Personally, there is enough new stuff going on in this beta that if it meant giving up a few items (like my beloved jailbreak) in order to experience and test them out then I'd be all for it. I guess that makes me one of those geeky early adopter types. When I was a Treo user, I was one of those who applied beta firmware images from overseas leaks to get fixes ASAP that Palm wasn't letting out the GA door fast enough too.

To each his own... but beta is exactly that no matter who says it. Just because Google may have deadened people's sensitive to the term, it doesn't mean I trust my data any more with those products than I do with anyone else's beta -- and it's why I have been very slow to adopt many of the newer google tools in daily use.

]]> By: aLex http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37475 aLex Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:04:28 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37475 <p>Really, @Matty...it's pretty silly to suggest that the contributors of this blog (who are simply voicing their recommendations) have any control over its readers. :-/</p> Really, @Matty...it's pretty silly to suggest that the contributors of this blog (who are simply voicing their recommendations) have any control over its readers. :-/

]]> By: Adam http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37473 Adam Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:55:08 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37473 <p>@Matty: Learn not to make such horrible run-on sentences. And they are advising, not telling people to do a anything.</p> @Matty: Learn not to make such horrible run-on sentences. And they are advising, not telling people to do a anything.

]]> By: DDay http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37472 DDay Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:48:12 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37472 <p>@Matty:</p> <p>They're not telling people not to do it, they're advising people not to do it. Big difference. Take your mommy and daddy issues elsewhere.</p> @Matty:

They're not telling people not to do it, they're advising people not to do it. Big difference. Take your mommy and daddy issues elsewhere.

]]> By: Muero http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37470 Muero Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:33:12 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37470 <p>Everybody complained about the release version of 2.0, but this 3.0 beta is a million times worse than that. Virtually every aspect of the OS is buggy. Sometimes buttons just aren't there. I think I can actually watch how Safari loads and renders web pages, which used to just happen in the background. Every app I have has crashed. I sacrifice two goats to the gods every time I try to launch the iPod app, in hopes they will have mercy on my iPhone.</p> Everybody complained about the release version of 2.0, but this 3.0 beta is a million times worse than that. Virtually every aspect of the OS is buggy. Sometimes buttons just aren't there. I think I can actually watch how Safari loads and renders web pages, which used to just happen in the background. Every app I have has crashed. I sacrifice two goats to the gods every time I try to launch the iPod app, in hopes they will have mercy on my iPhone.

]]> By: frog http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37468 frog Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:25:04 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37468 <p>There is lots of bugs so far in 3.0, so I've no idea why a non developer would want to use it.</p> There is lots of bugs so far in 3.0, so I've no idea why a non developer would want to use it.

]]> By: MattyFresh http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37466 MattyFresh Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:19:09 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37466 <p>you guys kill me who are you to tell people what they can and cant do with the phone they paid for a freind of mine uses it everyday with not a probllem at all and you guys come on here and give all these reasons not to upgrade why dont you just let people do with they want do you honestly believe becasue of this blog it will deterr people from installing it your dead wrong</p> you guys kill me who are you to tell people what they can and cant do with the phone they paid for a freind of mine uses it everyday with not a probllem at all and you guys come on here and give all these reasons not to upgrade why dont you just let people do with they want do you honestly believe becasue of this blog it will deterr people from installing it your dead wrong

]]> By: Evilhomer http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37461 Evilhomer Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:03:55 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37461 <p>Agreed. This is no where near ready.</p> Agreed. This is no where near ready.

]]> By: iPhoneDeveloper http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37456 iPhoneDeveloper Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:50:09 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37456 <p>I can state without reservation, please wait. If I had to do it all over again, I would have. Unfortunately, there is no way to go back to 2.X once you make the upgrade. 3.0 bugs and performance issues are not theoretical. I reboot my phone now several times daily. Battery life is worse. My phone just freezes up for ten or fifteen seconds at a time (which is really annoying when the phone is ringing and you can't pick it up). </p> <p>I have no doubt these problems will be fixed before shipment, but do yourself a favor. Wait for the final code.</p> I can state without reservation, please wait. If I had to do it all over again, I would have. Unfortunately, there is no way to go back to 2.X once you make the upgrade. 3.0 bugs and performance issues are not theoretical. I reboot my phone now several times daily. Battery life is worse. My phone just freezes up for ten or fifteen seconds at a time (which is really annoying when the phone is ringing and you can't pick it up).

I have no doubt these problems will be fixed before shipment, but do yourself a favor. Wait for the final code.

]]> By: aLex http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37451 aLex Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:28:43 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37451 <p>I'm JB, and so I'm patient. Maybe...one day...I won't HAVE to be JB. Ahhh - the words to John Lennon's "Imagine" are coming to mind. ;)</p> I'm JB, and so I'm patient. Maybe...one day...I won't HAVE to be JB. Ahhh - the words to John Lennon's "Imagine" are coming to mind. ;)

]]> By: Nicky http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37450 Nicky Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:26:15 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37450 <p>Just got to be patient people</p> Just got to be patient people

]]> By: ghecko http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37448 ghecko Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:11:09 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37448 <p>Excellent article</p> <p>!!!! LOVE IT!</p> Excellent article

!!!! LOVE IT!

]]> By: Jeremy Sikora http://www.imore.com/2009/03/25/tipb-advisory-developer-thinking-30/comment-page-1/#comment-37447 Jeremy Sikora Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:06:56 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=7783#comment-37447 <p>Listen to Rene people... ;)</p> Listen to Rene people... ;)

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