Wikipedia was just a convenient link. If you want to give me your postal address so I can personally mail you photocopies from my old English textbook, feel free to leave it. It’s ok; not many people remember the Gerund is a valid part of the language after they leave high school — just most people do not act like an ass about grammar to other informal posters without checking the rules themselves.

Incorrect.

Wikipedia? Is that where you receive your education? That explains it. LMAO!

“Swearing” is not only the present participle, it is the gerund, or “Action Noun,” form of the verb. Gerunds are verb forms that take the place of nouns in sentences, and they have been part of English for as long as there has been English, and in other languages before that. If your high school seriously never taught you this concept, you could have at least checked wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerund

Swearing is a verb. Profanity would’ve been the proper choice of word for a “grown up” to use.

So, we’re not very impressed, either.

Again, I appreciate everyone who reads this site, whether they agree or disagree, lets just keep personal attacks out of the comments from here on out.

Thanks.

@Corey: Based your juvenile post, a coloring book is a premiere novel to you so I’m not impressed. And just because you learned some big boy cuss words doesn’t mean they have to be used in every sentence out of your mouth. You see, grown ups know how to use swearing selectively and know that it doesn’t really make us tough.

Now sign off and go to bed before I tell your Mommy you are playing on the ‘puter past your bedtime.

I got your back jeremy

However, I think posts that throw out conjecture, based on no little or no facts, and with no at least half way credible sources simply to get a rise out of readers, is cheap and lazy journalism. Personally, I’d like to see this site take a higher road than some. Post real news, based on real facts. Or even post write some good rumor posts as long as it is based on SOME sort of credible source. BGR is a good example of this. IMO, it’s was criminal of Jeremy to site BGR’s post on this subject as his basis in writing this article. The BGR post indicated nothing of the sort.

If they shoot down Sling, then by all means, lets rant about it. If they announce that AT&T will be loading up our next iPhone with it’s own bloatware, let’s write hate mail and sign petitions. I’d be the first signature. But why get everyone all pissed at AT&T and Apple when they are guilty of neither of these atrocities as of yet?

Ok. So It’s no really big deal. It’s just one article. I guess I should read it and blow by with no comment. But without feedback from the readers, good and bad, how will this site build on what it does right, and improve on what it does not? I assumed that since there is a way to post feedback, that it’s encouraged.

Like I said, I’d like to see this turn into the premier iPhone site. So far, blackberry has a great thing going with Crackberry but so far, I have really seen the definitive iPhone site. I would think it great if this were to be that site, but it has less of a chance if it’s “journalists” are just going to throw crap against the wall and see what sticks.

Peace.

And again. the Pre has not hit the market so it’s a bit premature to crown it as the Saviour of Sprint or even a good seller. Although they did a great job of steali… imitating the iPhone platform, this is still Palm we are talking about and Palm has mad one bad move after another for the last several years.

@MikeN: I’ve got nothing to get over. Apple has never allowed bloatware on their hardware and there is NOTHING indicating otherwise But hey, if you want to sweat about it based on the tripe written in this article, be my guest.

This may be unlikely, may be remote at best, but sampling the user base to show the reaction to even unlikely, remote scenarios is not a bad thing. It’s, in point of fact, a good thing.

Good discussion is important, and we value any and every opinion on the subject, but please have the base courtesy not to insult the staff or the topic.

Act like we’re all hanging out, having a drink, shooting the breeze, and speak like we’re face to face.

Then we can concentrate on the conversation without personalization.

Kthxbai

Sprint isn’t sinking, they’re getting re-energized and finally getting a phone worth writing home about. It’s a mature 3g network unlike AT&T’s crap. I like the iphone as much as the next guy, but AT&T sucks azz and always has. Sprint’s problem is simply bad perception of CS..easily cured..which AT&T has as well.

I posted when slingbox submitted the app that its a good litmus test to go by. There’s simply no good reason that i’m willing to accept for it not to be approved. And none of this wifi only crap. These are the cool apps people have been waiting for despite 25k of useless garbage apps. It’s not just sling but any app that they deem uses too much data. Forget it. Why would you support this?

@Mike N: Apple users are wide awake my friend. Unlike PC’s, Apple has never allowed “bloatware” on their hardware. This is just one of the benefits of owning them. It’s not unrealistic to think that they will stick with that business model and continue to control their own hardware and software as they’ve always done. (Which has been a MAJOR benefit in and of itself)

The fact that the article was written as a question doesn’t let it off the hook for being rubbish. Blogging “what if” scenarios is pointless without any real chance of it actually happening.

Still, you are right — the iPhone is not untouchable. If by bribe or by hammer, carrier bloatware crept in, people will “wake up,” because I can think of nothing that would inspire people to jailbreak more.

Apple’s entire existence is based on providing a better design and better user experience than the competition. They know it, too — Apple has been maniacally focused since their inception, since, they also know, without a compelling one, they die. A big partner may have be able to pressure Apple about app store policies, but not the core product. Apple would have to change their entire corporate culture, and sacrifice both their market “cool” and their product differentiating factor, in order to give AT&T that type of input. AT&T has nowhere near that amount of leverage. Not even close. Jeez, it was just two days ago you guys linked to articles suggesting AT&T needs Apple a lot more than Apple needs AT&T. So yes, either pure rubbish, or a great troll.

@Jeremy: Do you see how seriously people will take this conjecture you call news?

In the BGR article, the only two references of AT&T applications are:

U-Verse iPhone application; will allow control of your home DVR (play, pause, rewind, etc.)

and

AT&T is said to be working with Apple to create a unified product with an unparalleled experience across all their products and services.

Neither of those statements would lead a sane person to think that AT&T is “taking over iPhone Apps”. At best, the first statement points to an APP. Plain and simple. An app that you will likely download, by choice, from the App Store. Mostly it discusses new hardware and beefed up network but certainly does not point to AT&T’s control of the iPhone apps or OS.

And the second statement could mean anything. Sure AT&T is working with Apple for a unparalleled experience. They are working with them on more widespread and faster coverage. They are working with them to bring MMS. They may be working with them to bring iChat. AT&T would have to be involved because they are providing the network that all these services run on.

It is true that carriers have alway put their bloatware on subsidized phones. However, you can’t say the iPhone is exempt from carrier bloatware just because it’s an iPhone because it has been from day one. In TWO launches of the device not one piece of carrier bloatware has shown up and nothing about the statement you quoted points to that happing. Everyone knows that the iPhone has played by different rules with AT&T than any other manufactures device.

Will AT&T’s offer apps for the iPhone? It’s possible. Does that mean that AT&T will control iPhone apps? Not even with the wildest stretch of the imagination.

You can’t write “anything is possible” as you did in your response. That’s no journalism even at an editorial level. Sure, anything and everything is always “possible” but a good news article is based on at least some facts and the “probable”.

Pointing us to BGR’s post did nothing to add any legitimacy to yours. Nothing in his backs up any of your theories. So yeah…. Pure rubbish.

As much as Sprint gets bashed for terrible CS..why would you want to go to AT&T that either can’t supply sufficient bandwidth or won’t allow apps that may contradict what they have planned?

Don’t think that Apple isn’t losing sleep over Slingbox. They do have an Itunes store to run that sells media. In other words, if Apple wanted it to happen, it’d happen. This is a partnership between apple and at&t.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/23/att-new-iphone-will-be-hot-son/

In regards to the new iPhone “AT&T is said to be working with Apple to create a unified product with an unparalleled experience across all their products and services.”

Pure rubbish eh?

It sucks that AT&T is trying to limit some of these apps, but it doesn’t seem a wise move on their part to allow applications that would severely tax their network or affect their business model. Allowing Skype to run over 3G is great until you realize that you are no longer selling cellular minutes. Or that your already overburdened network could crash on a large scale.

Sure, other devices are running Sling, but nowhere near the numbers of iPhone users. How many times have we seen AT&T service crash when large numbers of cellular users gather at conventions?

I don’t see Apple handing over control of a cash cow like the App Store to anyone, let alone a wireless carrier that wasn’t even their first choice. There are also over 25K apps in the App Store and AT&T has spoken out against only a few. How does this point to AT&T taking the reigns in any way, shape, or form.

I love this site but if this is what’s passing for news….

Consider that LTE is the network of the future for both AT&T and Verizon. Verizon is going to get there first so they’re going to want to keep iPhone users very happy to prevent switching. Making enemies now isn’t going to help their cause. Being innovative (and exclusive) will. So no chance they take anything back from Apple.