I've been using only Apple computers since the mid-80s. When the iPhone came out I had to have it. Why? Because it was a Apple "phone" with a cool touchscreen ー that's it. I never owned, used, or wanted an iPod (or any other portable music player) before the iPhone.

It's just not possible to pigeon-hole most users' reasons for buying the iPhone without data..

15 or so people out of how many million sold? what is that like less than 1 percent of iphone users? yeah sorry, not exactly relevant.

The majority of users are into the iPhone because they figured they have cell phone and an iPod why not just get both on a single device. The app store is an added luxury.

[Citation Needed]

I seriously doubt this. I don't know of a single person in the 15 or so people who have iPhones that I personally know who had an ipod and wanted to consolidate.

We all agree that the thing that drove us to the iPhone was having the web at our fingertips in all of its forms, email, browsing, IM, as well as the Phone capability.

At the time it was the only choice for a platform of this capability. Its not any more.

Far from being a Luxury, the APP store is key to the iPhone success. Its the ONLY thing that differentiates this phone from those that seek to unthrone it as the king of smart phones.

I would have long since dumped this phone for an Android or a Pre had not the App store come along and allowed me to do even more on the phone than I could when I first bought it.

I think you are way off base here to suggest its all iPod users wanting to carry only one device. The iPod portion of this phone is the least used feature, among my friends, except those under 30.

it seems to me that iPhone 09 has a lot more going for ot than iPhone 07 had. Stopped innovating? Do you consider the original iPhone to be innovative? It was a bit crippled don't you think? It seems to me that regardless of what apple does some people will find something to piss and moan about.

As far as why apps are being held to a diffrent standard now. Idk. I think when the app store was trying to establish itself the had a mostly open door policy. They just wanted to get to X amount of apps so the could make a historic press release and ad campain. Now that they have a long way to the next milestone there cooling things down and being prudes about everything. Idk that what I think anyway.

The only way they can be fair now is to go back and re-aprove(reject) all the apps they already aproved. Let's hope this never comes to be.

What's also pretty bad is the inconsistency between app reviewers. Sometimes it really looks like they approve/reject apps depending on the day of the week/the weather/etc... If apple wants to succeed, it needs to get this under control. Quickly.

Apple stop innovating in 2007, now it is just trying to get by with as few updates. The sad thing is that their aren't more people who see how their behavior has negatively effected the device.

Actually Cydia has a ton of apps that actually provide useful features. Right now I have Siphon hooked up to my Google voice account (free incoming) and my Gizmo5 (cheap outgoing) calls and then on top of that I got PDAnet, BossPages, and SBSettings, and a real Lock Screen.

You dont know what you are talking about.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's excellent. And it is successful.

@Mark

Obviously with all the heat the App store is getting, it isn't GREAT. Sure it's got the 1.5 Billion Apps, but that's really only due to the fact that the 50 Million users HAVE to buy from them, otherwise they have nothing more than a generic smartphone with iPod Features.

But where is this store?

http://cydia.saurik.com/

Random House and Websters = OK

Wiki = Bad.

That's the message I see here...

Where is the Apology. Bezos is looking like a Price compared to this arrogant clown.

PCWorld has some interesting comments on this from Ex Apple employees:

http://tinyurl.com/nzumgw (Its tinyurl because it contains underscores in the url).

Quote:

So what's the problem here? Red Sweater Software developer (and former Apple employee) Daniel Jalkut weighed in on his blog that the real culprit may be the way that Apple employs its reviewers, by encouraging a system whereby reviewers are rewarded for finding violations. Another Apple engineer-turned-indie developer, Sci-Fi Hi-Fi's Buzz Andersen, concurred on his own blog, speculating that Apple staffed its review teams with "a bunch of people who can quickly go down a very literal laundry list of things to check, but don't have the time or expertise to make nuanced judgments about an app's suitability."

Let's hope they do and stop screwing other developers...

You know I was thinking the same thing...LOL!