Comments on: C64 No Longer Available in App Store? http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/ More of everything iPhone and iPad Sun, 27 May 2012 03:25:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gadget news http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-180628 Gadget news Sun, 18 Jul 2010 05:37:25 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-180628 <p>Is there any alternative for C64 ?</p> Is there any alternative for C64 ?

]]> By: Laurette Rothfuss http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-99501 Laurette Rothfuss Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:23:15 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-99501 <p>Great piece of writing which I found really interesting. In my view but and unfortunatley so, the greatest method to clean window blinds is to take them down and give them a sponge bath in the shower using pinesol or lysol or something along those lines. any type of cleaner will be okay.</p> Great piece of writing which I found really interesting. In my view but and unfortunatley so, the greatest method to clean window blinds is to take them down and give them a sponge bath in the shower using pinesol or lysol or something along those lines. any type of cleaner will be okay.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-75211 Jeff Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:43:40 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-75211 <p>Does anyone know where the media or roms are stored in the iPhone file structure?</p> Does anyone know where the media or roms are stored in the iPhone file structure?

]]> By: Stooovie http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74099 Stooovie Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:16:08 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74099 <p>:) no harm done. I hope Apple and Manomio will find a way to fix it, and meanwhile, I'm happy I bought it while BASIC lasted :)</p> :) no harm done. I hope Apple and Manomio will find a way to fix it, and meanwhile, I'm happy I bought it while BASIC lasted :)

]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74091 icebike Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:29:51 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74091 <p>@Stoovie:</p> <p>I'm sorry for being a dick.</p> @Stoovie:

I'm sorry for being a dick.

]]> By: Stooovie http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74087 Stooovie Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:36:42 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74087 <p>@ yes it didn't ;) there's even my name in the link you provide. Please stop playing that "my daddy is bigger than yours" game ;)</p> @ yes it didn't ;) there's even my name in the link you provide. Please stop playing that "my daddy is bigger than yours" game ;)

]]> By: Randy http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74081 Randy Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:05:38 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74081 <p>This isn't about the "integrity" of the Apple sandbox. This is about the potential of a lawsuit from Microsoft, whose lawyers just love to find stuff like this. Commodore Basic was licensed from Microsoft for that machine only. Microsoft still maintains their rights to the code. This could be a big legal mess. Don't blame Apple. Blame Bill.</p> This isn't about the "integrity" of the Apple sandbox. This is about the potential of a lawsuit from Microsoft, whose lawyers just love to find stuff like this. Commodore Basic was licensed from Microsoft for that machine only. Microsoft still maintains their rights to the code. This could be a big legal mess. Don't blame Apple. Blame Bill.

]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74078 icebike Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:26:58 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74078 <p>@Stoovie:</p> <p>If your broke it here, it didn't take long to get to Slash Dot:</p> <p>http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1360395&cid=29343759</p> @Stoovie:

If your broke it here, it didn't take long to get to Slash Dot:

http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1360395&cid=29343759

]]> By: Werner Ruotsalainen http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74076 Werner Ruotsalainen Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:16:13 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74076 <p>core emulation-wise the WinMo version is the same I mean</p> core emulation-wise the WinMo version is the same I mean

]]> By: Werner Ruotsalainen http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74075 Werner Ruotsalainen Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:15:39 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74075 <p>@Dewayne:</p> <p>I don't think this is the case. The WinMo version (3.0), which, core emulation-wise, has been out for sale for almost two years - and still is.</p> @Dewayne:

I don't think this is the case. The WinMo version (3.0), which, core emulation-wise, has been out for sale for almost two years - and still is.

]]> By: Werner Ruotsalainen http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74074 Werner Ruotsalainen Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:12:42 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74074 BTW, let me point to my quick review (ialso incorporating a comparisong to the Windows Mobile "big brother" from the same folks), with a video showing some of the best C64 titles (Uridium, last Ninja etc.): http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/last-c64-emulation-possible-iphone-–-and-what-more-without-jailbreaking

]]> By: Stooovie http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74073 Stooovie Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:50:53 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74073 <p>@icebike</p> <p>I actually broke the news here. I found the workaround just toying with the app. I had the C64 back then, but that has nothing to do with me finding the workaround - as I said, it's no hack and requires no knowledge of C64.</p> @icebike

I actually broke the news here. I found the workaround just toying with the app. I had the C64 back then, but that has nothing to do with me finding the workaround - as I said, it's no hack and requires no knowledge of C64.

]]> By: Dewayne http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74067 Dewayne Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:08:04 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74067 <p>Other than access to BASIC, there is another possible reason that the app was pulled. C64 seems to be a port of the program Frodo to the iPhone. Frodo is an GPL open-source program and there are not any links to the source code that I or others can find. It appears that the app is violation of copyright law by not posting their modifications of the source code. If the Frodo folks complained to Apple, Apple would be compelled to remove it.</p> Other than access to BASIC, there is another possible reason that the app was pulled. C64 seems to be a port of the program Frodo to the iPhone. Frodo is an GPL open-source program and there are not any links to the source code that I or others can find. It appears that the app is violation of copyright law by not posting their modifications of the source code. If the Frodo folks complained to Apple, Apple would be compelled to remove it.

]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74065 icebike Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:25:37 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74065 <p>@Stoovie:</p> <p>How can the remove the basic and still be a C64 emulator?</p> <p>How did you find the workaround? From what you read here or what you knew about C64?</p> <p>If you are the typical Apple employee, just how much would you know about hacking a C64? Answer: Didly Squat.</p> @Stoovie:

How can the remove the basic and still be a C64 emulator?

How did you find the workaround? From what you read here or what you knew about C64?

If you are the typical Apple employee, just how much would you know about hacking a C64? Answer: Didly Squat.

]]> By: Stooovie http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74061 Stooovie Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:00:26 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74061 <p>So, why do they even test the submitted apps, if they cannot find such easy omissions? I've found the workaround 5 minutes after buying the app. If the approval process works on a honor system ("we've removed the BASIC, honestly!"), there is no reason for it to take ages. If it doesn't, how coukd they let this one slip?</p> So, why do they even test the submitted apps, if they cannot find such easy omissions? I've found the workaround 5 minutes after buying the app. If the approval process works on a honor system ("we've removed the BASIC, honestly!"), there is no reason for it to take ages. If it doesn't, how coukd they let this one slip?

]]> By: Gabor http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74060 Gabor Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:57:27 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74060 <p>Yep, the developer was definitely at fault. You don't mess with Apple by including easter eggs. Many people asked me to include TV out support in my app as an easter egg, but I choose not to do it. It's not worth getting your app removed from the store.</p> <p>So I do have TV out working, but it will not be in the store until it's allowed: http://www.iphone-calc.com/GraphCalcTVOut/GraphCalcTVOut-thumb-1.jpg</p> Yep, the developer was definitely at fault. You don't mess with Apple by including easter eggs. Many people asked me to include TV out support in my app as an easter egg, but I choose not to do it. It's not worth getting your app removed from the store.

So I do have TV out working, but it will not be in the store until it's allowed: http://www.iphone-calc.com/GraphCalcTVOut/GraphCalcTVOut-thumb-1.jpg

]]> By: Michael Denney http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74058 Michael Denney Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:53:19 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74058 <p>Anybody who didn't see this coming is blind. I downloaded the app as soon as I heard about the work-around because I knew it would be pulled quickly.</p> Anybody who didn't see this coming is blind. I downloaded the app as soon as I heard about the work-around because I knew it would be pulled quickly.

]]> By: Mike http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74052 Mike Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:19:46 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74052 <p>But before the cries of outrage start, this is not a crazy, inconsistent Apple demand. They told all developers, and this developer specifically, not to do what they, in fact, did (and sneakily, too). My kids do that, too, and I punish them for it. Because if I don't, my rules are meaningless. It's really pretty simple -- if you choose to develop for the iTunes Store, you do it by Apple's rules. Some of these rules have seemed haphazard and inconsistent, and there's a case to be made by those who feel they're the victims of this. THe developer of C64 certainly can't play innocent here.</p> But before the cries of outrage start, this is not a crazy, inconsistent Apple demand. They told all developers, and this developer specifically, not to do what they, in fact, did (and sneakily, too). My kids do that, too, and I punish them for it. Because if I don't, my rules are meaningless. It's really pretty simple -- if you choose to develop for the iTunes Store, you do it by Apple's rules. Some of these rules have seemed haphazard and inconsistent, and there's a case to be made by those who feel they're the victims of this. THe developer of C64 certainly can't play innocent here.

]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74048 icebike Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:59:07 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74048 <p>See this is what happens when people post work around on the net. Apple has no time to approve apps, but the have plenty of time to trawl the net looking for things like this.</p> <p>The thing is, if they do remove the workaround, it diminishes the usefulness of the app.</p> <p>I'm betting since Apple told them to remove it, and someone found/leaked a way to get at the interpreter, that Apple bitchslapped the developer right into next week.</p> <p>This also suggests how weak the Apple Sandbox is. If they have to worry about Basic running in their sandbox that says to me they are worried about the sandbox's integrity.</p> See this is what happens when people post work around on the net. Apple has no time to approve apps, but the have plenty of time to trawl the net looking for things like this.

The thing is, if they do remove the workaround, it diminishes the usefulness of the app.

I'm betting since Apple told them to remove it, and someone found/leaked a way to get at the interpreter, that Apple bitchslapped the developer right into next week.

This also suggests how weak the Apple Sandbox is. If they have to worry about Basic running in their sandbox that says to me they are worried about the sandbox's integrity.

]]> By: Apothfan http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74046 Apothfan Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:50:09 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74046 <p>That's crazy! I downloaded it about an hour and a half ago!!!</p> That's crazy! I downloaded it about an hour and a half ago!!!

]]> By: Kevin Ballard http://www.imore.com/2009/09/07/c64-longer-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-74043 Kevin Ballard Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:18:09 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11148#comment-74043 <p>I noticed this shortly after Gruber posted his Linked List entry about the BASIC interpreter being available. I just checked again a minute ago, and it's not even showing up in the search results anymore. This is not a glitch. Apple definitely pulled C64 from the store.</p> I noticed this shortly after Gruber posted his Linked List entry about the BASIC interpreter being available. I just checked again a minute ago, and it's not even showing up in the search results anymore. This is not a glitch. Apple definitely pulled C64 from the store.

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