Comments on: Inside iTunes LP: No DRM, Lots of WebKit http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/ More of everything iPhone and iPad Sun, 27 May 2012 03:44:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Justin http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75517 Justin Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:08:42 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75517 <p>@shollomon</p> <p>not trying to offend, but:</p> <ol> <li>iTunes 9 CAN watch user selected folders and update</li> <li>Excel is a Microsoft format, with limited support via 3rd party companies. The iPhone itself can open an excel document natively, the lack of support to open it inside an app is an app creator fail. </li> </ol> <p>cheers</p> @shollomon

not trying to offend, but:

  1. iTunes 9 CAN watch user selected folders and update
  2. Excel is a Microsoft format, with limited support via 3rd party companies. The iPhone itself can open an excel document natively, the lack of support to open it inside an app is an app creator fail.

cheers

]]> By: shollomon http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75469 shollomon Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:45:58 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75469 <p>I'm fully down with people liking the albums. If you like them more power to you. I'm just frustrated that Apple is spending time on frivolous stuff like this when iTunes cannot watch user selected folders and update my music library based on changes or when my iPhone can't open excel spreadsheets directly in Quickoffice but instead I have to forward the attachment to a Quickoffice server and then open it from there.</p> I'm fully down with people liking the albums. If you like them more power to you. I'm just frustrated that Apple is spending time on frivolous stuff like this when iTunes cannot watch user selected folders and update my music library based on changes or when my iPhone can't open excel spreadsheets directly in Quickoffice but instead I have to forward the attachment to a Quickoffice server and then open it from there.

]]> By: Jz http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75452 Jz Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:04:43 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75452 <p>So, will LPs work on iPhone/iPod? That would be nice.</p> So, will LPs work on iPhone/iPod? That would be nice.

]]> By: Red http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75420 Red Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:46:36 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75420 <p>@shollowmon - I guess if you feel that way you won't be convinced in it's worth no matter what we say. That fine, to each his own. Enjoy your music anyway you like it. I don't really watch videos very often either but if the right band came along I would try. You probly have other things your passionate about.</p> @shollowmon - I guess if you feel that way you won't be convinced in it's worth no matter what we say. That fine, to each his own. Enjoy your music anyway you like it. I don't really watch videos very often either but if the right band came along I would try. You probly have other things your passionate about.

]]> By: Jason http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75410 Jason Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:15:14 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75410 <p>I have to admit that I am very excited about this. I definitely miss the "album experience", and I usually buy my music as complete albums anyway to retain some of that experience. I like what I've seen so far, but I have yet to buy one because there aren't any albums in the iTunes LP format that I want. I have preordered the new Muse and Alice in Chains albums, so I should be finding out soon enough.</p> <p>@shollomon "Apple needs to work on things that create value for their customers not just value for Apple." I see this as value for me. For artist that I love, this is a much more immersive experience, and I like that. Also, I don't think I'll be paying more. The Muse album is $11.99, and Alice in Chains is $9.99, not much of a premium, especially considering that "Deluxe" albums often come in at $12.99 or more.</p> I have to admit that I am very excited about this. I definitely miss the "album experience", and I usually buy my music as complete albums anyway to retain some of that experience. I like what I've seen so far, but I have yet to buy one because there aren't any albums in the iTunes LP format that I want. I have preordered the new Muse and Alice in Chains albums, so I should be finding out soon enough.

@shollomon "Apple needs to work on things that create value for their customers not just value for Apple." I see this as value for me. For artist that I love, this is a much more immersive experience, and I like that. Also, I don't think I'll be paying more. The Muse album is $11.99, and Alice in Chains is $9.99, not much of a premium, especially considering that "Deluxe" albums often come in at $12.99 or more.

]]> By: shollomon http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75372 shollomon Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:58:59 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75372 <p>collectors cd of your favorite artist?</p> <p>Are you kidding? Of course not. All I want is the music as cheap is possible with some trade off for sound quality/price. I want individual tracks, not albums. Liner notes and background on the band are on the band website for, wait for it, free. Lyrics are on the internet for, once again, free.</p> <p>I don't sit around watching music videos. I listen to music while I'm doing other things, like driving, video is worthless.</p> collectors cd of your favorite artist?

Are you kidding? Of course not. All I want is the music as cheap is possible with some trade off for sound quality/price. I want individual tracks, not albums. Liner notes and background on the band are on the band website for, wait for it, free. Lyrics are on the internet for, once again, free.

I don't sit around watching music videos. I listen to music while I'm doing other things, like driving, video is worthless.

]]> By: alfagta http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75342 alfagta Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:15:28 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75342 <p>You don’t have to pay more. It’s the same as booklet in deluxe edition. Look at Jay-Z’s BP3. It’s deluxe cause it has got two additional videos. iTunes LP is free!</p> You don’t have to pay more. It’s the same as booklet in deluxe edition. Look at Jay-Z’s BP3. It’s deluxe cause it has got two additional videos. iTunes LP is free!

]]> By: Red http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75340 Red Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:08:33 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75340 <p>@shollowmon didn't you ever buy records or at least a collectors cd of your favorite artist? You pay extra cause you get more of what you love, and you hardly consider it a large price to pay. Sometimes you get ripped when you buy a collectors cd for an artist like eminem because his production company just throws together some cheap art. These LPs on the other hand are going to pick select artist that can tell a vivid story. Jack Johnson, or Paul Simon, or Regina spektor. Maybe someday the beatles. Just saying if they threw up your favorite artist with animated lyrics. Artist made art and secret stuff just for the fans it might be worth it to you.</p> @shollowmon didn't you ever buy records or at least a collectors cd of your favorite artist? You pay extra cause you get more of what you love, and you hardly consider it a large price to pay. Sometimes you get ripped when you buy a collectors cd for an artist like eminem because his production company just throws together some cheap art. These LPs on the other hand are going to pick select artist that can tell a vivid story. Jack Johnson, or Paul Simon, or Regina spektor. Maybe someday the beatles. Just saying if they threw up your favorite artist with animated lyrics. Artist made art and secret stuff just for the fans it might be worth it to you.

]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75339 icebike Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:07:32 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75339 <p>I also found this bit in Robinson's write up:</p> <blockquote> <p>However, listening to music in the iTunes LP introduces some unfortunate user interface problems. Similar to Genius Mixes (also new in iTunes 9) there is no way to ask iTunes to send you to the currently playing song. This means that unless you leave the LP view you cannot rate the song or view any other metadata.</p> <p>This also causes a problem if you leave the iTunes LP interface to browse your library, then want to return to the LP. The only way is to select the iTunes LP from your file listing and double-click. This results in the iTunes LP site loading from the start and you losing your place through the album.</p> </blockquote> <p>So it's not at all like the album inserts of even the CD inserts. Its more like MTV. You watch the presentation from beginning to end, you can't browse it UNLESS the developers happened to build in such browsing.</p> <p>I suspect that when this is played with a little bit by the more creative types, it will become more of a user driven experience, so you can not only see still images from the concert, but actually PLAY the video in sync with the audio in a window while you read concert reviews, press coverage of the event, still shots, and pictures of the trashed hotel rooms. (ok, maybe not that last bit).</p> <p>Even tho there was no DRM, Robinson stated that the lyrics were static images, not text files. So they aren't exactly making it easy to copy lyrics to text files here.</p> <p>Because its largely html (and assorted pieces and parts) the sky is the limit when it comes to capabilities.</p> <p>Odd he went to all this trouble to review it and never once mentioned the iPhone or the Touch. </p> <p>Does it work at all on small devices?</p> I also found this bit in Robinson's write up:

However, listening to music in the iTunes LP introduces some unfortunate user interface problems. Similar to Genius Mixes (also new in iTunes 9) there is no way to ask iTunes to send you to the currently playing song. This means that unless you leave the LP view you cannot rate the song or view any other metadata.

This also causes a problem if you leave the iTunes LP interface to browse your library, then want to return to the LP. The only way is to select the iTunes LP from your file listing and double-click. This results in the iTunes LP site loading from the start and you losing your place through the album.

So it's not at all like the album inserts of even the CD inserts. Its more like MTV. You watch the presentation from beginning to end, you can't browse it UNLESS the developers happened to build in such browsing.

I suspect that when this is played with a little bit by the more creative types, it will become more of a user driven experience, so you can not only see still images from the concert, but actually PLAY the video in sync with the audio in a window while you read concert reviews, press coverage of the event, still shots, and pictures of the trashed hotel rooms. (ok, maybe not that last bit).

Even tho there was no DRM, Robinson stated that the lyrics were static images, not text files. So they aren't exactly making it easy to copy lyrics to text files here.

Because its largely html (and assorted pieces and parts) the sky is the limit when it comes to capabilities.

Odd he went to all this trouble to review it and never once mentioned the iPhone or the Touch.

Does it work at all on small devices?

]]> By: shollomon http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75328 shollomon Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:22:52 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75328 <p>Fail, why the heck would anybody want to pay extra for a bloated file with 8 songs in it and content you'll watch once. Apple needs to work on things that create value for their customers not just value for Apple.</p> <p>Wouldn't buy music from iTunes anyway (Amazon is cheaper). Wouldn't buy apps either if I had a choice.</p> Fail, why the heck would anybody want to pay extra for a bloated file with 8 songs in it and content you'll watch once. Apple needs to work on things that create value for their customers not just value for Apple.

Wouldn't buy music from iTunes anyway (Amazon is cheaper). Wouldn't buy apps either if I had a choice.

]]> By: alfagta http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75327 alfagta Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:22:39 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75327 <p>@smchrist2</p> <p>Unfortunately no:/ But iTunes LP is bananas. I bought Blueprint 3 (the same as seen on this screenshot). It’s beautiful.</p> @smchrist2

Unfortunately no:/ But iTunes LP is bananas. I bought Blueprint 3 (the same as seen on this screenshot). It’s beautiful.

]]> By: 0ysterburg3r http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75325 0ysterburg3r Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:21:31 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75325 <p>it should be able to go on my ipod touch right? or just the songs at least</p> it should be able to go on my ipod touch right? or just the songs at least

]]> By: smchrist2 http://www.imore.com/2009/09/12/itunes-lp-drm-lots-webkit/comment-page-1/#comment-75319 smchrist2 Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:56:04 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=11589#comment-75319 <p>Cool. Can you upgade an album you already on to LP? (first!)</p> Cool. Can you upgade an album you already on to LP? (first!)

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