Comments on: Updated: Apple Introduces In-App Purchase for Free App — Buh-Bye Lite, Hello Demo! http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/ More of everything iPhone and iPad Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:35:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Insignia http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-101285 Insignia Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:50:23 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-101285 <p>What you think about news - GOPers Hold 'Prayercast' to Ask God to Stop Health Reform ? Wanna hear your opinion</p> What you think about news – GOPers Hold ‘Prayercast’ to Ask God to Stop Health Reform ? Wanna hear your opinion

]]> By: Rose http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86880 Rose Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:14:02 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86880 <p>I don't see the big deal. It seems like its worse to pay something (even a small amount) for an app and then realize that you have to pay more for it to be useful. If you get a free app and then find out you have to pay more to really use it, you may have lost a few minutes of time but you haven't lost any money if you just decide not to use it.</p> I don’t see the big deal. It seems like its worse to pay something (even a small amount) for an app and then realize that you have to pay more for it to be useful. If you get a free app and then find out you have to pay more to really use it, you may have lost a few minutes of time but you haven’t lost any money if you just decide not to use it.

]]> By: Aubrey Goodman http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86834 Aubrey Goodman Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:12:15 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86834 <p>As a developer with a combination of free and paid apps on the App Store, I'm concerned about ownership migration. As I see it, in order to transition, I will need to add in-app purchase support to my paid apps, then remove my "lite" apps from the store and change the pricing tier of the paid apps to "free." At this point, I see no clear path to unlock in-app features for those who have bought the paid apps already.</p> As a developer with a combination of free and paid apps on the App Store, I’m concerned about ownership migration. As I see it, in order to transition, I will need to add in-app purchase support to my paid apps, then remove my “lite” apps from the store and change the pricing tier of the paid apps to “free.” At this point, I see no clear path to unlock in-app features for those who have bought the paid apps already.

]]> By: Oboewan http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86545 Oboewan Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:47:14 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86545 <p>Oh, and that quote-looking part of my comment wasn't supposed to be a quote. It's my second thought.</p> Oh, and that quote-looking part of my comment wasn’t supposed to be a quote. It’s my second thought.

]]> By: Oboewan http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86544 Oboewan Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:45:26 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86544 <p>My 2 thoughts: 1. This is good. The reason they had this rule is because they didn't want people downloading a "free" app that costs $5. That's good, but instead, they have "$1" apps that actually cost $5, and you're already out the $1. A boneheaded move that thankfully has been fixed.</p> <ol> <li>This is the last nail in the coffin for the non-pirate JB community. Can't personally confirm this, but according to Tapulous, IAPs don't work on JB devices. And this move has the potential to completely flip the App Store economy upside down, making jailbreaking a dumb move.</li> </ol> My 2 thoughts: 1. This is good. The reason they had this rule is because they didn’t want people downloading a “free” app that costs $5. That’s good, but instead, they have “$1″ apps that actually cost $5, and you’re already out the $1. A boneheaded move that thankfully has been fixed.

  1. This is the last nail in the coffin for the non-pirate JB community. Can’t personally confirm this, but according to Tapulous, IAPs don’t work on JB devices. And this move has the potential to completely flip the App Store economy upside down, making jailbreaking a dumb move.
]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86318 icebike Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:37:47 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86318 <p>@Venture82:</p> <p>Thansks for that good info.</p> <p>Also Wired http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/tablet-print-2/ has story about in-app sales combined with the putative iTablet being geared toward rescuing the Print Media.</p> <p>Quoting: </p> <blockquote> <p>The Wall Street Journal will later this month begin charging for most of the content it delivers through its free app, and the Financial Times has an app that only offers up to 10 free stories a month without a subscription to the newspaper. But for the most part, publishers have loathed charging for an app, even if it then enabled them to try to charge for content within that point of sale. Reducing the cost barrier of that business model to zero changes things considerably. At least one small publisher, Scarab Magazine, has already taken advantage of the change. </p> </blockquote> <p>As I've said many times here, if the iTablet does nothing but change the business model of the Main Stream Press, it will be ground breaking, and all the nay-sayers will be out buying an iTablet within a year.</p> <p>This change to in-app purchase capabilities is the tip of the iceberg.</p> @Venture82:

Thansks for that good info.

Also Wired http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/tablet-print-2/ has story about in-app sales combined with the putative iTablet being geared toward rescuing the Print Media.

Quoting:

The Wall Street Journal will later this month begin charging for most of the content it delivers through its free app, and the Financial Times has an app that only offers up to 10 free stories a month without a subscription to the newspaper. But for the most part, publishers have loathed charging for an app, even if it then enabled them to try to charge for content within that point of sale. Reducing the cost barrier of that business model to zero changes things considerably. At least one small publisher, Scarab Magazine, has already taken advantage of the change.

As I’ve said many times here, if the iTablet does nothing but change the business model of the Main Stream Press, it will be ground breaking, and all the nay-sayers will be out buying an iTablet within a year.

This change to in-app purchase capabilities is the tip of the iceberg.

]]> By: Erik http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86252 Erik Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:54:19 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86252 <p>Im so glad to see this! Im also happy that Apple is suggesting developers do away with Lite apps. While its nice to try apps, Ive always hated how lite apps clutter up the appstore. I really hope we can do away with lite apps altogether. It is also interesting how this might help out with piracy. Good idea. I look forward to this change.</p> Im so glad to see this! Im also happy that Apple is suggesting developers do away with Lite apps. While its nice to try apps, Ive always hated how lite apps clutter up the appstore. I really hope we can do away with lite apps altogether. It is also interesting how this might help out with piracy. Good idea. I look forward to this change.

]]> By: Enora http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86211 Enora Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:46:08 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86211 <p>Hmm, sound great but i have one think. If all developers make there apps free and selling it with in app purchase, won't all apps be in the free section then??</p> Hmm, sound great but i have one think. If all developers make there apps free and selling it with in app purchase, won’t all apps be in the free section then??

]]> By: SpiceRak2 http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86202 SpiceRak2 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:06:55 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86202 <p>@icebike</p> <p>"I swear Apple must read this blog."</p> <p>LOL. That's plausible until you consider how many posts have been about backgrounder, winterboard, SBSettings, tethering, etc...</p> @icebike

“I swear Apple must read this blog.”

LOL. That’s plausible until you consider how many posts have been about backgrounder, winterboard, SBSettings, tethering, etc…

]]> By: Muero http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86198 Muero Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:22:32 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86198 <p>Wait, so what happens to previously purchased apps? Will users now be required to purchase add-ons that previously came with the paid app? Or will developers be forced to maintain two different versions of their apps, the "old" full version plus the "new" a-la-carte version?</p> Wait, so what happens to previously purchased apps? Will users now be required to purchase add-ons that previously came with the paid app? Or will developers be forced to maintain two different versions of their apps, the “old” full version plus the “new” a-la-carte version?

]]> By: Papuchooo http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86195 Papuchooo Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:54:45 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86195 <p>I think this will be great.....</p> I think this will be great…..

]]> By: Dionte http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86193 Dionte Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:38:02 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86193 <p>I think it's a good idea in that we can get real trials of a whole game but now that the light ones will be gone, you can't just play those for free instead of the real game which cost because future trials will only last for so many days and then they won't work</p> I think it’s a good idea in that we can get real trials of a whole game but now that the light ones will be gone, you can’t just play those for free instead of the real game which cost because future trials will only last for so many days and then they won’t work

]]> By: Fassy http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86192 Fassy Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:33:15 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86192 <p>The regular boxcar listing on iTunes still shows a price, but the techcrunch article has the link:</p> <p>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/15/the-in-app-purchase-shakeup-begins-boxcar-goes-free/</p> The regular boxcar listing on iTunes still shows a price, but the techcrunch article has the link:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/15/the-in-app-purchase-shakeup-begins-boxcar-goes-free/

]]> By: Venture82 http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86191 Venture82 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:29:54 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86191 <p>@icebike:</p> <p>No, in-app purchases can't have an expiration date, but they do allow for subscription models.</p> <p>"2.3 Content and services may be offered through the In App Purchase API on a subscription basis (e.g., subscriptions to a magazine, comic series, or financial reporting service); however, rentals of content, services or functionality through the In App Purchase API are not allowed (e.g., use of a particular game item or digital book for a pre-determined, limited period of time)."</p> <p>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/15/apple-announces-in-app-purchases-for-free-iphone-applications/</p> @icebike:

No, in-app purchases can’t have an expiration date, but they do allow for subscription models.

“2.3 Content and services may be offered through the In App Purchase API on a subscription basis (e.g., subscriptions to a magazine, comic series, or financial reporting service); however, rentals of content, services or functionality through the In App Purchase API are not allowed (e.g., use of a particular game item or digital book for a pre-determined, limited period of time).”

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/15/apple-announces-in-app-purchases-for-free-iphone-applications/

]]> By: Fassy http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86190 Fassy Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:29:18 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86190 <p>Boxcar has already been re-released as a free app with in-app purchases for services after the first one.</p> Boxcar has already been re-released as a free app with in-app purchases for services after the first one.

]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86175 icebike Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:44:11 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86175 <p>@OneOfDaKine :</p> <blockquote> <p>"I thought I heard Apple stated when they first introduce the iPhone Firmware 3.0 that any Dev with free Apps can’t charge there customers for any In App Purchases?"</p> </blockquote> <p>You did. That is why this is news! </p> <p>I wonder if the in-app purchases can be for a fixed length of time, allowing for a subscription model?</p> @OneOfDaKine :

“I thought I heard Apple stated when they first introduce the iPhone Firmware 3.0 that any Dev with free Apps can’t charge there customers for any In App Purchases?”

You did. That is why this is news!

I wonder if the in-app purchases can be for a fixed length of time, allowing for a subscription model?

]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86173 icebike Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:41:48 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86173 <p>I swear Apple must read this blog.</p> <p>All the bItchin about this lately, even getting mentioned in the podcast a couple of times and Boom its there.</p> <p>This is very nice.</p> I swear Apple must read this blog.

All the bItchin about this lately, even getting mentioned in the podcast a couple of times and Boom its there.

This is very nice.

]]> By: Mattshall http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86171 Mattshall Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:30:57 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86171 <p>This might have something to do with the cover story in USA today about social gaming.</p> This might have something to do with the cover story in USA today about social gaming.

]]> By: bugs http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86167 bugs Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:40:23 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86167 <p>instead of 74900 crap apps now will be an influx of triple terrible apps for free now.</p> instead of 74900 crap apps now will be an influx of triple terrible apps for free now.

]]> By: thekevinmonster http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86163 thekevinmonster Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:08:27 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86163 <p>nerdalot: if only you had to pay to be first post in the comments...</p> nerdalot: if only you had to pay to be first post in the comments…

]]> By: Nerdalot http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86157 Nerdalot Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:39:55 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86157 <p>Now if only The iPhone Blog could allow in-blog purchases! Get the first few sentences free and have to pay for the rest if the story :-P</p> Now if only The iPhone Blog could allow in-blog purchases! Get the first few sentences free and have to pay for the rest if the story :-P

]]> By: Joe McG http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86155 Joe McG Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:33:08 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86155 <p>This is the only sensible answer. There are legitimate business models that require to give the app away, and sell content within. No brainer if you ask me.</p> This is the only sensible answer. There are legitimate business models that require to give the app away, and sell content within. No brainer if you ask me.

]]> By: frog http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86153 frog Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:30:21 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86153 <p>Provided it's disclosed upfront, and that's certainly the case with all inApp purchases now, this is a good move. </p> <p>We may see the AppStore application count drop a little too. </p> <p>Whether this works out well or not, at least Apple is trying to fix peoples concerns.</p> Provided it’s disclosed upfront, and that’s certainly the case with all inApp purchases now, this is a good move.

We may see the AppStore application count drop a little too.

Whether this works out well or not, at least Apple is trying to fix peoples concerns.

]]> By: OneOfDaKine http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86147 OneOfDaKine Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:46:29 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86147 <p>I thought I heard Apple stated when they first introduce the iPhone Firmware 3.0 that any Dev with free Apps can't charge there customers for any In App Purchases?</p> I thought I heard Apple stated when they first introduce the iPhone Firmware 3.0 that any Dev with free Apps can’t charge there customers for any In App Purchases?

]]> By: thekevinmonster http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86143 thekevinmonster Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:29:14 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86143 <p>I think this is a flawed move, but at the same time, I think it's a case of apple looking at what they have, and what people are demanding, and trying to figure out how to get from 'have + want' to 'satisfied' in the least amount of 'making something new' possible.</p> I think this is a flawed move, but at the same time, I think it’s a case of apple looking at what they have, and what people are demanding, and trying to figure out how to get from ‘have + want’ to ‘satisfied’ in the least amount of ‘making something new’ possible.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86141 Ryan Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:17:29 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86141 <p>I'm really concerned about this because they need to require developers to explicitly state what Add Ons you can (or have to) purchase for the free ones. </p> <p>I can foresee a lot of bad reviews for apps where people downloaded something not knowing it requires an upgrade within the app because it wasn't disclosed.</p> I’m really concerned about this because they need to require developers to explicitly state what Add Ons you can (or have to) purchase for the free ones.

I can foresee a lot of bad reviews for apps where people downloaded something not knowing it requires an upgrade within the app because it wasn’t disclosed.

]]> By: J. Danny http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86140 J. Danny Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:07:10 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86140 <p>I hope they use the same method Tap Tap Revenge 3 uses, in which all your downloads are linked to your account, so even though you restored your device or perhaps downloaded it on your other iPod/iPhone you could still download the content you already paid for.</p> I hope they use the same method Tap Tap Revenge 3 uses, in which all your downloads are linked to your account, so even though you restored your device or perhaps downloaded it on your other iPod/iPhone you could still download the content you already paid for.

]]> By: Hakala http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86138 Hakala Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:59:12 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86138 <p>Much rather have this than to pay for an app only to pay more for extra levels.</p> Much rather have this than to pay for an app only to pay more for extra levels.

]]> By: fassy http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86137 fassy Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:21 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86137 <p>An unexpected, but pleasant, surprise.</p> An unexpected, but pleasant, surprise.

]]> By: striatic http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86136 striatic Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:49:20 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86136 <p>how does this work with apps that are shared within a household, using itunes' new app sharing functionality?</p> how does this work with apps that are shared within a household, using itunes’ new app sharing functionality?

]]> By: Dryland http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86134 Dryland Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:45:17 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86134 <p>Interesting... I'd love to try an app before I buy it.</p> Interesting… I’d love to try an app before I buy it.

]]> By: iSkythe http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86133 iSkythe Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:33:07 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86133 <p>Also can solve piracy. Give away app for free, but make the user pay how much the app is worth.</p> Also can solve piracy. Give away app for free, but make the user pay how much the app is worth.

]]> By: Greyscale http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86131 Greyscale Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:27:13 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86131 <p>Sounds good to me. Perhaps now instead of having one app per book on the App Store, we'll just have the one free client with which you will download premium books to? This of course would apply to many other things as well.</p> Sounds good to me. Perhaps now instead of having one app per book on the App Store, we’ll just have the one free client with which you will download premium books to? This of course would apply to many other things as well.

]]> By: Dyvim http://www.imore.com/2009/10/15/apple-introduces-inapp-purchase-free-app-buhbye-lite-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-86129 Dyvim Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:18:46 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=13509#comment-86129 <p>Yeah was pretty surprised to see this. Not sure quite how to feel about it. Free demos would be nice though. Guess we'll have to see how it plays out (whether the App Store gets filled with free shovelware).</p> Yeah was pretty surprised to see this. Not sure quite how to feel about it. Free demos would be nice though. Guess we’ll have to see how it plays out (whether the App Store gets filled with free shovelware).

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