Windows 7 Launches Tomorrow, Which iPhone Users are Making the Upgrade?
Our sibling site, WMExperts.com is doing their part to balance TiPb’s Apple-centricity with a reminder that Microsoft Windows 7 launches tomorrow. However, since most iPhone and iPod touch users are also Windows users, TiPb’s fully on board this new release train as well.
I’ve been using Windows 7 since the beta, and have ordered but not yet received my upgrade licenses (oh, hai Amazon!). Not to get all Mossberg’y, but I’ve found it to be solid, stable, and yes — compatible. However, I liked Vista, so something that sought to make Vista better… it had me from announcement.
Those worried that there might be issues with Windows 7, it looks like both Apple and Microsoft have done everything they needed to do to make sure users would have no problems for iPhone, iPod touch, MobileMe, and/or iTunes 9 users. If you do experience any trouble, hit up TiPb’s iPhone Forums and we’ll be happy to trouble shoot with you.
For now, we’re just curious how many of you plan to upgrade?
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Have never used anything by Microsoft ever in twenty-three years, and am not about to start now.
Have always used the OS / Office suite by Microsoft in twenty year (I’m probably a little younger), and am not about to change now.
Currently using the RC version of Win7 and haven’t seen a BSOD yet… actually, never saw one with Vista in the two years I used it either. It may be a bit but I’ll be getting a legit version.
Cant wait to hear about the headaches tomorrow.
I wonder if people are going to downgrade to vista after upgrading to 7
@Joost:
I stand corrected. I’ve used the Mac version of Excel in the past, which is made by Microsoft.
Win 7 FTW! And headaches? Shut up you mac fanboy. 7 runs circles around vista and i don’t see any reason why anyone should keep vista. If you have vista and want better preformence and ease of use go win 7 tomorrow!
Yobad, so 7 runs circles around vista huh ? Well that’s not saying much.
I’m running Windows 7 RTM on Virtual Box and it’s pretty sweet. Ahhhh the benefits of having an MSDN. And no hating here, I’d love to give OSX a shot down the road when I have some more free funds.
Stop this crazy fighting, we all like what we have. I’ve always use window, so yes I will upgrade to window 7, don’t hate on window. I can say the samething about snow leopard. I did not upgrade to snow leopard because I use pc. So all you mac users will not upgrade to 7 because you have mac. Just leave it at that.
Both my laptops are now on RTM Win 7 Ultimate. This is what Vista SHOULD HAVE BEEN. It is flawless. It works with every peripheral and is lacking no drivers (which was the main problem when Vista was initially released).
I have one machine on 64 bit, and one at the standard 32. Both perform perfectly. (Incidentally, I’ve been using Win 7 since the first beta release, so I’ve had it long enough to be sure.)
I have Mac which I purchased shortly after purchasing a laptop PC with vista installed. I still get head aches but I’m willing to experiment and install Win7 in my lap top just so I can barg with conviction that Win7 has nothing on Snow Lepord or not.
Also using Win 7 since Beta, and haven’t had any issue with iPhone or iTunes.
@fastlane
See? Microsoft is incidious, it’s gets everywhere.
If history is an indication, wait till SP1 is released b4 upgrading.
Also, recent tests show that SL is faster than Win7 lol, enough said.
why would itunes have issues on vista 2.0? or anything else, itunes is fine on vista 1.0 why would 2.0 be any different besides a new shell the difference between vista 1.0 and 2.0 is minimal.
I’m updating
@fastlane
you never used an atm? never browsed the web? hell even basic on the mac’s 2e was by microsoft not apple, i doubt you never used a windows system or something microsoft was tied to.
linux up to ie version 5 had a port of internet explorer.
I’ve been using the RTM since it leaked a few months ago. Works great. No headaches.
Been using Windows 7 Ultimate RTM since Technet released it on August 6th – it’s fine and dandy iTunes and iPhone wise – I have an iPhone 3G and 3GS and both are gravy. No issues with it over vista at all, everything is a little quicker and better. Enjoy!
oh i forgot
“iPhone 3GS comes with amazing benefits for business users out of the box. iPhone 3GS integrates with Microsoft Exchange so users get secure over-the-air push email, calendar, and contacts keeping them up to date wherever they are. The full-featured Safari browser provides access to corporate resources anytime. iPhone also includes other easy-to-use, innovative applications like Maps, Voice Memos, and Voice Control to help users get more things done faster.”
hm microsoft on the iphone.
My God is better than your God.
its not that its stupid people saying spewing stupid crap with out knowledge which is irritating.
win7 vs vista is not much of an upgrade. nothing really special in 7 vs vista same boot times, same almost everything it has a little less annoying uac, but overall its pretty much a tweaked vista, renamed. nothing is really new. win 7 even the rtm has the same flaw as vista.
Hecks Yeahs …I have been using the RC for about a while now
@bugs
“linux up to ie version 5 had a port of internet explorer.”
Stupefyingly wrong. Wow, just wow. Microsoft purchased NCSA-dervied code when they bought Spyglass to jumpstart their IE development. Many browsers on other platforms also used NCSA-derived code, prior to Microsoft even dipping a toe into the pool. Microsoft did port a single version — IE4 — to Solaris and HP/UX, but never Linux. IEs4Linux and WINE (both OSS projects) let you run IE under Linux, but they have zero affiliation with Microsoft, and Microsoft would prefer they go away.
“its not that its stupid people saying spewing stupid **** with out knowledge which is irritating. “
Agreed 110%.
Too funny Mac people. Bill Gates isn’t responsible for Mac being 5% of the market, Steve Jobs is. PCs are made in China and so are Apples yet they are significantly more expensive (mac minis are $200 $300 more than a similar power pc). I especially love the Koolaid drinker who will never buy anything Microsoft. He probably doesn’t let his kids have flu shots and never been to McDonalds either. It must keep them up at night knowing Microsoft invested over $100 million in Apple. I love my iPhone and I’d try OSX if I could buy it for my pc. Windows 7 works great on my pc and I can run tons of software on it. I dont have to wait months or years for the Mac version software to be released. Microsoft isn’t going to dry up and die because Apple is successful. Microsofts success doesn’t require Apple to fail. Cheer up Mac owners try new things.. You might enjoy it.
Think before writing something..they’ll eat you up…LOL
Previous statement @ BUGS
@Stan The Man
agree 100%
I can’t believe Windows ME is on the survey. People can’t really still be using ME can they? If nothing else, upgrade from Win ME.
I’ve been running it for about 2 months now, solid as a rock. iPhone and iTunes work perfectly and iTunes 9 even has some extra win7 features built in.
Anyone dismissing it just like thy clearly hasn’t used it! And as an added bonus it won’t delete all your data when you log into another account!
Win7 FTW
I have been using Win 7 RC since the first day it was available and I love it. I have both Macs and PCs in my household and like both of their software. Heck I even have Leopard installed on my HP Mini and Win 7 installed on the MacBook, so I enjoy both to an extent. But no matter what, I always find myself hopping on 7 rather than Snow Leopard. You can call it a Vista face lift. You can call it crap. You can call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day it is an extremely capable OS with some amazing new features that will leave most users extremely satisfied.
I upgraded Vista 64 Ultimate to 7 64 Ultimate when I got my official copy in my Windows 7 Party Pack. Installing a skin/theme on an iPhone makes a more noticeable difference upgrading from Vista to 7. If someone surrepticiously installed 7 on my computer instead of me doing it myself, I probably wouldn’t have even noticed the new OS. I mean it runs fine, but it’s about 0.01% better than Vista right now (I know Vista was a nightmare when it came out, but I’m talking now).
Typo.
Installing a skin/theme on an iPhone makes a more noticeable difference THAN upgrading from Vista to 7.
I got the ultimate version for hosting a house party already installed, now I am waiting to download the rc professional that I can as a student upgrade for 30 bucks from http://www.win741.com, I’ll prob be up waiting tonight at midnight for the download and key lol
@dev,
its been a long time, over 10 years, but i do remember it wasn’t sourced but ie complied. some version you could be right, its been a long time, and i can’t even recall when i tried it out how i installed it into slackware at the time. tho i dont think it was with wine. but its been too long for me to remember. i just know it did run in linux.
but thanks for the heads up. it just been too long.
I’ve been using it for both work (as a systems engineer), on a large enterprise scale network, and personal use, with no problems whatsoever since the RC came out. It’s so rare I ever have to reboot I don’t even remember the last time… but I know when I do, it’s MUCH faster than Vista was to shut down and start up, which was one of my main problems with Vista. No blue screens, even using Vista drivers (rather than official 7 drivers) for my laptop, since HP didn’t release them yet. I’m not a mac hater, I like Mac OS too, I don’t own a mac, but really, I have no reason to even consider it with a nicely presented, stable, fast and versatile OS like Windows 7 now available. I’ve also been using my iphone with the 7 RC with no issues.
@Drbling:
Quote:
Well said.
The post was addressed to windows users, the rest should just click the appropriate button and move along rather than stopping by to pontificate for their platform.
My $50 preorder should be here tomorrow. I’ll be doing a clean install of Win7 instead of the upgrade ASAP. I tried the RC on my old laptop, which could not run Vista, and it seemed to work fine on the 7 year old laptop. Excited for how it will work on my far more powerful 2 year old laptop.
I never had a problem with Vista, no crashes or anything but why not upgrade after all the positive reviews and press for Win7.
@Muero:
A clean install would have been better for you. Find a way to back stuff up and start over.
I am not so concerned about Apple/Microsoft as much as I am for the Dev team. I have been waiting for over a month for them to update their s/w to jailbreak 3.1 and 3.12. How much longer now for them to test and come up with a jailbreak that works undre Windows, XP, Vista and 7??
I think just about everyone has had a PC and we tried something new…it was a Mac. And after switching to Mac, I would never go back to PC. I’m not windows sucks…ok I am lol jk I’m running vista through vmware fusion on my Mac and that’s to have the best of both worlds. But I could never see myself buying another pc. I recommend a Mac to everyone I know who asks me about a new computer.
The thing with Macs is you get a very high quality product. Very high. And you pay for that quality. If you were to get a pc with that same quality, then you’d be paying just as much for that pc as you would that Mac. The only difference is that PCs give you the option to buy a lower end, less quality product while Macs only focus on giving you a top notch product. Over priced? No. But buy that $500 Dell and watch it crap out on you.
I have win 7 64 RC. Top microsoft OS are win 95 win NT win 2000 pro and windows 7 that is perfect.
Surely the 10 of you using ME are joking??
of course! im not staying with that POS with half-functioning wifi called XP/Vista (vista is slightly better, but still fails with shared internet connection)
@soco_jon
in late 08 or early 09, i purchased a plastic laptop t9400 cpu core2 duo, 3 gigs ram, blue ray writer, 15 inc display, fingerprint reader, 250gb hdd, hdmi out, pci express card slot, 5 in 1 reader or 7 dont even use it, esata connector, nvidia 9600gt grafix and with vista sp1 at the time. the whole system cost me 1k usd,
now the same 15 inc book less a blue ray read/write drive, no hdmi native on the mobo, no finger print reader, and everything else the same i think give or take 1 gig ram was 2k from apple, same hardware same t9400 cpu, same grafix card.
oh did i mention i also have a tv tuner in the pc?
only difference is i dont have the dual gfx chips. not really something i even care about, i have 1 and since i can just connect a hdmi cable straight into the book and play blue ray on my tv through hdmi i cant complain and i paid 1/2 what a macbook with less features would run me.
now how is apple using best hardware, they use the same hardware and some how still come out overpriced… what are you really paying for astetics? of functionality?
i prefer to save 1k and gain double my investment then spend 2k and get 1/2 of what i can get.
Hahahaha I know the other day I almost bought a shirt with vista logo but decided not to cuz I was afraid I was gonna get shot walking out of the store by one of these FANBOYS
For apple fan boys the strong point of iphone is the app store that has milion of apps :p. The strong point of windows is that has more apps than mac and much more gamed. You own a mac for status and windows for work so the ferrari is for image and bmw x6 is for city and difficult streets
@fastlane
I’m in the same boat. Past 22 years, only time I have used anything besides Windows is when my high school had a special program that gave every student a MacBook.
I like OS X…but Windows just seems more efficient for my taste.
My first fully owned Apple computer product will be an iMac…of course, I’ll have Windows 7 running parallel to it thanks to my engineering friend that gets a retail copy for free =]
And P.S.
As I tell all my friends, I have an Asus laptop and NEVER have had a problem. Hell, I’m actually running Windows without virus protection and still going smoothly.
On the other hand both my past computers (Dell and Gateway) caused problems every single day almost.
Bottom line…get top notch hardware to match the software, and you’ll see no problems.
If you buy shitty, inferior products (see majority of Dell lineup) then you’ll suffer. End story.
That lost comment was towards Soco Jon btw
I use both Vista and Snow Leopard. Even though I have a serious relationship with Leopard, I will give 7 a shot…
I have a very new Vista machine and a five year old XP machine. The XP machine works better on the wireless network, and does not “lose” its connection to the NAS drive like the Vista does. I will install Windows 7 to the Vista machine and hope and pray that it does not wreak all sorts of havoc.
jefferyr what wireless nic is in the vista machine?
@JefferyR
That’s an odd thing to happen. I never lose my connection unless…you know, the connection is gone, lol.
Been using the RC with no problems and pre-ordered for arrival tomorrow.
However it turned up on Monday!!
So already had it running properly for a few days.
We are expecting a postal strike here in Blighty so maybe PCWorld thought they’d pre-empt it and send early.
Who cares! Mines Done!!
@icebike
What will be noticeably different between an upgrade install and a clean install? If it’s just 5% faster startup times or whatever there’s no way I’d waste days backing up, doing a clean install, and and trying to get all my programs installed and running the way I want them just for a marginal improvement. My Vista Ultimate install was less than a year old on hardware plenty powerful enough for Vista, so Vista was a good OS for me, and 7 is basically the same.
Wow, what a surprise, people getting into “religious arguments” without knowing what they are talking about. Haven’t read about the rewritten thread handling or memory management? Device Stage? New Aero features for window management? It’s more different than a Vista SP3 by a LOT but less different than XP to Vista. Never had a BSOD on Vista either.
I’m not sure why Microsoft is having a new OS, They need to fix Vista big time.. It’s like AT&T trying to upgrade to the 4G network when they need to fix thier 3G network.Wait a minute are them two (Microsoft, AT&T) related? Hahaha
Windows is trash. I will soon take MSFT over like the banking and automobile industry. Hahaha!!! Neel before me common trash and be controlled!!!!
Is it just me or would the simultaneous release if Windows 7 and Windows Mobile 7 be the most awesomely choreographed release of a Windows product?!? Think if the PR!! Lmao… A win-mac fan can dream…
@Muero:
It will be faster, by more than 5%, for an number of reasons:
It will be smaller: You will save a lot of disk space, because Microsoft does not always clean up after itself very well.
Your disk will be optimized and stay that way longer.
You will know for certain that you be using the windows 7 drivers, rather than the older vista drivers. I’ve had this happen quite a lot, where Win7 continues to use the vista drivers long after it should have switched, especially video drivers. Surf you hardware manufacturer’s site for Win7 driver upgrades and have them available ahead of time (again USB media is great for this).
You will start with a clean, optimized registry.
It takes only a little more time to re-install all your packages, (especially if you have them all downloaded and stored on something like a USB drive). Hint: You don’t always HAVE to reboot when windows asks.
Caveat: If you bought an UPGRADE package you may have to start with a running system, because MS often wants to see the original media of the system being upgraded, and with the depressing tendency these days to NOT provide original DVDs there is not always a way to show windows the original media. So if you bought an upgrade, read the directions carefully, and perhaps disregard doing a clean install.
I’ve learned never to go from one MS version to another via an in-place upgrade. I learned it the hard way too many times.
Interesting data point: My test install of Win 7 was in a virtual machine. The host machine was running Vista. The Win7 virtual machine was WAY faster than the host Vista machine especially with regard to network functions.
I’ve already got Win7 thru MSDN, and will be wiping my one remaining Vista box soon. Most of my machines are Linux, but I have to keep one virgin MS box for business reasons.
@zeagus #57
Exactly.
There is way more than meets the eye.
If you had good enough hardware, Vista performed well, ran for months (or till next patch tuesday) without a need of a reboot.
But Win7 is way faster, more robust, and less prone to being hacked. And signing onto its Guest account does not erase all your normal user account data. Cough.
If you are happy with XP, stay there for a while. But swapping Win7 in and Vista out is like getting a new machine. Its THAT much better.
If I were going to coin a phrase I would say “It Just Works”, but I see that’s taken.
@iDavey:
So YOU’RE the one!!!
Thank you for all the spam.
@Stan The Man
“I dont have to wait months or years for the Mac version software to be released.”
LOL, how typical of a Windows fanboy. Times have changed buddy, time to wake up.
I ran betas on and off over the years but started running it on most of my machines when the RTM build came out on July 13th. I have installed it on about 20 machines so far. I have even done successful upgrades with it. I have also installed it on 7 year old laptops with 512MB and it runs very well. Very responsive too. I have been extremely impressed with Win7 so far. Next I will be reloading my gaming machine.
@icebike
LOL, no no no, not me!
It just now ran out, and I’m not going to be using this laptop for much longer, so no need in getting all that again.
I have the Norton’s virus check though. So that’s something.
And I agree with you. Like I said, I have a very good Asus laptop with Vista. I never experience any problems. Poor hardware produces poor results.
@extended
yes that 5% market share apple computers has is a big influence, NOT.
I’ve been running the RTM of 7 Pro since I got it in the partner action pack and it’s just a tweaked Vista. But apart from the first few months of crappy drivers from OTHER vendors I didn’t have much trouble with Vista! I’m running 7 Pro 64bit on my main PC, 32bit on my netbook and 32bit on my media center and they’re all performing beautifully. Only problem I have with iTunes is how DAMN slow it is doing anything… that’s not Windows fault though
I have a hackintosh too for iPhone development (just to play really!) and that’s nice too
AND JUST AS A HEADS UP…..
El Register is reporting that if you UPGRADE you will have to un-install iTunes before the upgrade can proceed. (I think this same thing happened with Vista SP2), and it has to do with the lame USB drivers iTunes uses on windows.
Nothing will be lost, and you can re-install iTunes after the upgrade is finished and all your music and apps will be there.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/21/windows7reader_reviews/
So hopefully we can head off any breathless Window 7 DEMANDS removal of iTunes posts here on TiPB.
And NOW it’s time to get a new PC!! Woooo Hoooo!!! I love Macs, though.
Grrrr, Blog software clobbered the link again: http://tinyurl.com/yglxol5
I just upgraded from Windows 7 RC1 to Windows 7 RTM x64 Ultimate. Formated the HD and installed W7. Took me 30 minutes, iTunes, iPhone are working fine.
Installed the 64-bit version of 7 RTM on VMWare Fusion (osx 10.6.1) and it works as expected. My major tasks are running IE 8 for testing web design. Not really hard usage
Where Win 7 Ultimate RTM really surprised me was installing on a hp tc1100 Tablet PC from 2005. 512MB RAM and 1.0 GHz processor.
Boot times are around 30 sec or better, and only a few features don’t work properly (aero, media center, wake from sleep). Touch screen, WLAN, the pen and pretty much everthing else important works great.
This hp tc1100 is now back in use as my “netbook”.
You could say Windows 7 ultimate RTM ressurected that old Tablet from the shelf to daily use
hey fastlane doesn’t the iphone use microsoft exchange? so u have used a microsoft product after all lol
Win 7 is awesome. I’ve been running the beta on a netbook for 6 months and it’s a killer OS. Even computers with basic hardware run quick. It’s never hung once in 6 months. I own a business running about 10 PCs and will install win 7 on all of them within the next 30 days. The business world runs on windows.
I think I’ll upgrade soon. Once I get some money back in my pocket.
Mac “Fanboy”, the only Mac option?
Well I still picked it, cause Win 7 preview wasn’t all THAT great, but much better than previous versions. If you have a PC, you should get it.
Over my dead body! Switched to macs two years ago and intend to stay that way.
Why are you complaining about not receiving your Windows 7 upgrade yet, from Amazon???? You know that those wouldn’t have shipped out before Oct 22nd.
No sane person will downgrade from 7 to Vista after installing. Everything works as it should in 7. It is amazing. It is, by far, the best operating system ever made.
Vista was a complete disaster though. Most machines run terribly with it. Yes, I’ve tried it. I bought it after seeing it on a machine where it worked well. I tried it on three machines and it failed every time. So far, I have not seen a machine running 7 that has had any OS related problem. I fought Vista for a year before selling it.
I had no problems with XP though, not even XP 64-bit (2003 version; the 2001 version of xp64 had all of the problems). XP64 runs great on my Dell laptop; I only don’t have hibernate available. On that system, I have to install specific ATI drivers (not all versions will work). I haven’t bothered to try other versions to attempt to get hibernation to be available. My point is that I’ve never had any issues with XP (32 or 64-bit), I never understood what all the complaints were about. However, I do understand the complaints about Vista, I was one of those complaining.
As far as Macs go. They look nice, and I have used a few, but why should anyone expect me to pay 2 to 4 times as much (depending on the model) for a Mac as for a PC? If they were priced anywhere near a reasonable amount, I would have had one already. But I’m not going to pay for just their name.
I failed to mention that I’ve been using Windows 7 RC since it’s release in May. I have not had a single issue with it. I have a desktop and a laptop. It works perfectly on both, and it is much faster than anything I’ve used before.
Hmmm.. looks like Apples attempt to spoil the Windows 7 release failed. The day after the Win7 release Apple’s stock down, MS up. On a day that almost all stocks went down too.
For all of you saying ‘if i could buy osx for my pc i would’, expand your horizons and try searching for osx for intel and amd. I have been running OS X on my windows box for years,it’s not a big deal.I also own a mac which i dual boot between win 7 and snow leopard. Each OS has its good and bad points,I use mac for graphics,music and video editing. I use PC for office,games,etc.
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