UPDATED: Steve Ballmer NOT announcing iPhone, iPad Visual Studio support at WWDC? [Crazy alert!]
An analyst has let fly that Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer will be getting 7 minutes of time during the WWDC 2010 keynote -- where the iPhone HD/iPhone 4G will al but certainly be introduced -- to announce Visual Studio 2010 will support the native creation of iPhone, iPad, and Mac apps. Is there a word in the English language for something so bat$#!t crazy "rumor" and even "fiction" just don't properly convey its bat$#!t craziness?
What makes this particular type of bat$#!t craziness so crazy is that it comes on the wake of Apple disallowing Adobe Flash CS5-style cross-compilation for development, Google's awkwardly aggressive and increasing attacks on Apple, and Microsoft's shakeup of their own devices division -- triple trendy tie-in.
Hey, Microsoft and Apple have come to deals on Office and ActiveSync in the past, and we keep hearing about Bing being on the table to replace Google as default search...
So will Ballmer take the stage and monkey-boy dance out to iPhone developers, developers, developers!? Will Windows PCs get a way in to Apple app creation? Will I ever use bat$#!t insane in a post this much again?
UPDATE: We re-tweeted this earlier but just to make it absolutely clear, the official @Microsoft Twitter account laid this bat$3!t crazy rumor to rest earlier today:
Steve Ballmer not speaking at Apple Dev Conf. Nor appearing on Dancing with the Stars. Nor riding in the Belmont. Just FYI.
We're only missing out if he'd have danced.
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I think it's likely.
/mustholdstraightface
I love the fact that you managed to use the word bat$*#t about 10 times in this article.
WIN!!!
Which word is " bat$*#t " refering to? (non-native English speaker asking)
Is it me or is Tipb deperate enough to create "HUGE" headlines to get our attetion only to find out later that the HEADLINE NEWS werent not really that accurate and only based on silly rumors?
Rene&Co, You guys used to RULE,,, lately its been nothing but one lame article after another. Get back to your roots and make this place what it used to be
not sure why you think it's crazy, I actually thought about this when the cross-compilation thing went down, they aren't the same thing as this will be compiling native code (native for iPhone OS that is) In fact I would probably sign up as an iPhone developer if this were to happen
There on The Same ????????? Team.....
Any chance this is just Apple's method of providing a PC solution for building iPhone apps?
From a developer's perspective, this would be great if it does happen! I develop mostly with VB. I would love to finally be able to use VS for some iPhone app development.
@Art
This is the best place to get iPhone news hands down. Don't come back here if you don't like Rene's great writing ability.
You have to write about Google? You don't like them Rene, we all know, but this "news" has nothing to do with Google. Google is attacking Apple! They are evil" Buuuuuu Come on
iPhoneMilk There is a difference in the ability of reading vs comprehending .
Kindly remove your head from Rene's arse and pay attention.
Im a long time reader at this place,,,, and yes this place has always been providing us with great accurate news... but the last few months there's been more garbage than anything else. While I love iPhone and iPhone news, I totally disagree with the anti-"any other phone" campagins and blowing up minor rumors into HEADLINE NEWS.
Last I checked, I could come here, read and enjoy what I find interesting, and share my opinion if I have a constructive critisism. If YOU dont like it, then ignore it and move on, cause the last thing this place needs it a nerdy fanboy brownnosing the staff. Rene IS a great writer and I enjoy his articles.
The Apple iPhone Dev agreement doesn't ban specific IDEs or compilers, it only bans languages as Apple doesn't want interpreted languages running native apps (including bytecode). C and C++ are allowed as well as Objective-C and VS supports C and C++. I highly doubt this will be an announcement that VS now supports Objective-C and it will definitely not be about any .Net language like VB or C#. So it will most likely be about VS having the libraries and build tools baked in to make writing iPhone OS apps in C/C++ easy.
That is of course if this crazy rumor is true...
@ daddy_cool Agreed 100% !
@Art
I think you are commenting more on what iPhone and apple news has become which is more business and politics oriented vs technical. Am I right? If not my apologies. This is the smartphone world as we know it. Get used to it. Android sites are this way right now brut when android gets big in the next few years then you will see a similar shift to the politico.
I think that it's about alliances. Google and adobe vs Apple and Microsoft. This site reports the news just like other sites. The truth is that they are mega corporations which are intertwined to a point where destroying your competitor will harm you too. So I personally like a little cooperation. From the corporate antitrust trials of the 90's these companies have learned that domination comes with a price. It is much more attractive to own a big chunk of the market say 20-30% and have good margins than owning 90% like Microsoft does. When android owns a huge portion of the market in the next few years and they will, the trouble they will experience and the loss of mindshare they will sacrifice will be their undoing.
Shouldn't Steve be the MiB?
Applications without Objective-C would be extremely difficult - the entire Cocoa API is based around Objective-C - I don't think it is possible.
Microsoft doesn't have an Objective-C compiler, or editor, or ARM target in VS, so that would all have to be built. A port of Mono that targetted ARM would need the Dev agreement changed again, and would still need a Cocoa translation layer to be written, so programs would never be as performant as Objective-C programs.
Iw would be great for Apple to support Windows hosted development, but it seems like someone would be doing a lot of work fior little gain.
@Bryan
Yes your partially correct in regards to my comments. What Im tired of is the childish namebashing and "our dad can beat up your dad" mentality.
Nothing wrong with competition, I get it. and nothing wrong with bragging once in a while about which product is better.... But when everything is turned into a pissing match, then it becomes tiresome and all of a sudden we are more worried about bashing others rather than enjoy what we got.
As daddy_cool mentioned above, was there really need to bring Google in ?
If he goes up he's got to be pretty brave man the Apple crowd is not going to be too warm to him. I can hear the crickets already or the loud jeering. It will be definitely 1 or the other.
I find it odd Rene and co. use profanity in their subpar columns, yet they block profanity in the comments section. Has anyone ever noticed that they try to run this blog like they're apple? Kinda sad actually.
If Steve Ballmer gets 7 minutes during the keynote, he will use 6 minutes to take a dump on stage in front of everyone then the remaining minute to wipe his behind and wave goodbye.
Rene is sad, if there ever was a fanboy, he is it. I wonder how much Jobs pays him (not talking about money either).
NetMage, Apple would have a lot to gain from a windows based IDE. I don't think MS would gain much from it, but Apple surely would. Apple is the one that needs to build the IDE as it is them that would benefit. If they ever did make a Windows IDE it would probably suck though, just like the Windows version of iTunes does. It is almost like Apple intensionally makes the Windows versions of their apps suck just so they can try to blame it on the OS.
This has to happen or the lawyers will eat Apple for lunch over its latest monopolistic crap. Wake up people!
Well, this is nothing like flash cross-compiling, because in visual studio you actually write programs in Objective C...
Why isn't this on Pay-Per-View? Ballmer in Apple's house, and with that, maybe ten feet from the other Steve-oh?
Get Jerry Springer to host the shizniz and Apple can make another 100 million just from running WWDC's Summerslam 2010...Call Google up, too. Fooooood fight!!!
Debunked on numerous sites, and on MS Twitter account (assuming that is legit)
http://twitter.com/Microsoft/status/14850981422
@Adam
Actually, no. Visual Studio you can use C/C++, but not Objective C, at least not as a first class citizen, though there may be a skunkworks project here and there that tries to bolt it on.
Damn that sucks. It would have been awesome if true.
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