iPhone Brews Up Anger With Sun Over Java Support

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Oh Steve, when will you learn? Your tight fisted control over iPhone's software platform continues to effuse dissent among users. Now even your very own partners are lining up outside your door with torches and pitchforks. This time you've managed to piss off the folks at Sun Microsystems for excluding Java support in iPhone.

Java, for those of you who don't know, is an application development environment that runs compatibly (in theory) across any platform. It's creator, Sun, once boasted the platform's promise of "Write once, run anywhere" applications that can be made to run on any runtime environment capable of supporting Java Virtual Machines. Though it never quite took off on the desktop, Java has come into its own in recent years on Mobile devices. Cell phones in particular.

The really insulting part is that Java runs on even the lowest common denominator phones on the market today. Even the Motorola RAZR can run Java apps. So it's somewhat embarrassing, and damaging, that iPhone can't.

Maybe I should refer Sun to my new "Feature Wish List" page? No, I don't want to get myself in hot water. Ha! Get it, hot water? Coffee...water...hot? Ah forget it.

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I'm taking my iPhone back. I'll wait for the iPDA. I consider myself a power user and the iPhone doesn't do enough for me.
I will continue to stay subscribed to your blog so that I can follow updates...

From the very outset it's been obvious that the iphone was developed, packaged and sold as a consumer item, not a prosumer/business/power user item. When iphone first came out there was quite a bit of clammoring about how the iphone missed the mark for business applications... uhm... DUH? It isn't *aimed* at business applications, so of COURSE it missed that mark.
I find the lack of Java to be a complete and total non-event. In fact I didn't even know the iphone wasn't Java compatible until right now when I read Kent's article.
The only point here being that for the general consumer, or even the apple-focused consumer such as me, the iphone doesn't apparently need java.
That said, I can't imagine why apple would take a "stance" on something like this. Why not just say "Java isn't supported, but it might be in the future, we haven't decided."
Whatever. Like I said, to me the lack of Java support is a non-issue.

I don't think you quite understand what Java is and how it's used, Micah. Java is not a simply a "business tool", it is a programming language used in consumer devices as well, particularly cell phones. Even games designed for mobile phones are based on Java. So don't be so quick to conclude this a non-issue.
For myself it serves as yet another example of why Apple needs to open iPhone to platform development, so consumers as well as business customers can benefit from a richer user experience.

I understand what Java is, but I realize that my rambling covered two issues that are actually separate (business use and java implementation) so was confusing.
I'm sure that java on the iphone would be a benefit, I'm just saying that to ME it's obivously not a major issue since I never noticed it being gone in the first place :)

micah u fail to see the picture. Obviously java along with flash and others things are issues.......... When u pay 600$ for a phone and no java or flash is supported then there's an issue.. Because even free or 20$ phones come with java.

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• NO LOCKS
• Stereo Headset
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• USB Power Adapter
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I bought $20 (USD $15) second hand sony ericson for a backup phone the other day. And it supports Java MIDP 2.0 ...