So how long until Amazon buys Cydia?

How long until Amazon buys Cydia?

Amazon has an Android Appstore to compete with Google's Android Market, and according to The Loop they've just released a Mac Download Store to compete with Apple's Mac App Store, so how long until they decide they want to be in the iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch space and try to buy Cydia, introduce a Jailbreak app store alternative all their own, or try some fancy HTML5 web app store?

iOS is theoretically a closed garden, yet Jailbreak and HTML5 apps are both alternatives, the letter even officially supported by Apple. Cydia has shown there can be commercial alternatives. Google has shown there can be great web apps. Playboy has shown there can even be subscriptions outside the app store.

Amazon is starting to feel their strength and, like when they launched CloudLocker without label support, they're getting less shy about showing it. Their international support isn't great compared to Apple's, but if they fix that most of the other pieces are already in place.

Would Amazon buy Cydia? I doubt it. But iOS is far too lucrative a market for Amazon not to be considering attacking it in some way.

[The Loop]

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So how long until Amazon buys Cydia?


How Amazon proceeds towards ios will depend alot on what happens with the Kindle app and in app purchases. If Apple doesn't make an exception to the 30% rule for Kindle books and Amazon is forced to pull the app all bets will be off. If Apple lets the Kindle app continue as it always has I wouldn't see Amazon doing anything to rock the boat because they probably sell alot of Kindle books to ios users.

Doubtful it would happen, but at the same time I see how it would make financial sense for Amazon to have an app store that caters to several platforms, even though in the case of Cydia you'd have to jailbreak your device in order to use it.

It'll probably happen about the time Harold camping gets his rapture prediction right...which will probably never

You never leave a crucial component of your business relying on the non-written good graces of a rival, or even a friend. That is why google invested in Android, and why Apple is making their own services.
Palm tried it with something as small scale as iTunes syncing, and, while I think Apple was morally wrong to shut Palm users out, they were legally in the clear. There is no chance Amazon would risk Apple cutting them off in the same fashion, unless they are confident they can win a protracted legal fight against Apple to legitimize an alternate store.

lets face it Palm was being cheeky with the itunes syncing. Nokia syncs your phone with iTunes libraries no problem, Palm was sticking their finger up to apple while they were doing it.

Apple does leave the iTunes database open for other media players, but they did write iTunes for the iPod range and there was there any reason why Palm couldn't have written their own software? The Nokia solution worked amazingly for me why couldn't they have done something like that ?

They could have - but they chose to interoperate with a solution already out there, that their customers (and potential customers) already used. Apple certainly should be under no obligation to support Palm in those efforts - which is why Palm was foolish to try it - but when Apple made that point release specifically to break Pre syncing, that is when they put their own interests above that of their customers, which, IMHO, crosses the line into bad behavior.

I think if Palm hadn't used this as a marketing feature maybe Apple wouldn't have blocked it (but we'll never know). Where you see them crossing the line into bad behaviour, I see them being consistent in their practises to protect their market. Palm was at fault for having no other option when it was blocked, they must have known that was a possible outcome. They are not friends, they are competitors. It feels like they used the whole thing as a marketing ploy, the same as with USB standards group who would obviously side with Apple, and therefore used the Palm customers as leverage. You don't need much code to sync your Palm with iTunes / contacts and calendar if the Nokia app is anything to go by.

No doubt Palm was at fault here, but Apple crossed a line they should nor have crossed. It is all well and good to compete, but you compete by aiding your customers. If Apple were to break Pre syncing in a normal update, I would say tough noogies for Palm. But to release an update specifically to break Pre syncing - that is doing something that hurts some (admittedly few) iTunes/Pre customers, and offers zero benefits to the existing iTunes/iPhone customer base. That sort of release is a disservice to the aggregate customer base, albeit a small one. Still, that is the line Apple crossed - putting out a net negative (to its aggregate customer base) release to protect their own interests in a related field.

I can't see this line you are talking about. How does it matter whether they block them sooner or later? It's still going hurt the pre users; the net result is identical - no itunes access. Are you are saying Apple shouldn't block any other devices mimicking iphones to use iTunes at all ? If you are saying that they were being malicious in the specific blocking update, I disagree. The net result to the Pre users is identical, but to others companies considering doing the same thing, I would say it would have an effect. Imagine if 3 other companies followed Palms lead, then Apple has a large problem rather than a small one. I call it damage limitation; they are going to look like the bad guys to some whatever they do, but worse if they are blocking many devices.

Cydia ? this doesn't sit right at all. Apple went after Toyota for using Cydia to market their Scions ... I think apple is gonna have a field day suing the crap out of Amazon.

Nah...a lawsuit would be a waste of money. If Amazon was foolish enough to try this, all Apple would have to do is keep things the way they are. Having to wait for updates, as well as forgoing Apple support unless you wipe, is fine for Cydia's current userbase, but it would be totally unacceptable for the mass of Amazon customers.
Apple could sit back and let the resulting consumer complaints torpedo any Amazon jailbreak store.

Amazon doesn't need Cydia. They already have a hardware + software ecosystem and so far it's done very well. Now they can leverage all that plus the hundreds of millions of accounts with credit cards, their vast experience delivering content and goods to customers, and their huge mindshare.
Amazon seems to have the best shot at locking up the #2 pad computer slot, a strong but distant second to iPad. All the other wannabes have fatal flaws that they may never be able to fix.