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		<title>Google Comments on Apple vs. HTC Patent Lawsuit</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/03/03/google-comments-apple-htc-patent-lawsuit/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without being asked, Google decided to whip out an email to <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/02/google-htc-apple-lawsuit/">TechCrunch</a> anyway and comment on the <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/03/02/apple-sues-htc-patent-infringement/">Apple vs. HTC patent lawsuit</a> announced yesterday:

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  “We are not a party to </blockquote>]]></description>
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<p>Without being asked, Google decided to whip out an email to <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/02/google-htc-apple-lawsuit/">TechCrunch</a> anyway and comment on the <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/03/02/apple-sues-htc-patent-infringement/">Apple vs. HTC patent lawsuit</a> announced yesterday:</p>

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  <p>“We are not a party to this lawsuit. However, we stand behind our Android operating system and the partners who have helped us to develop it.&#8221;</p>
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<p>This is interesting in light of <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/03/02/apple-htc-read-android-patent-lawsuit/">suggestions</a> that the real target of Apple&#8217;s patent offensive isn&#8217;t HTC but rather Android and Google. While some maintain it isn&#8217;t like Apple (or at least the crunchy, hippy Apple they hold dear) to use patents offensively, when combined with HTC (read: Google) as target, could it begin to make more sense?</p>

<p>With <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/nokia/">Nokia</a>, Apple merely counter-sued, to go on the attack against HTC has led to speculation that, because of Google, it&#8217;s <em>personal</em>.</p>

<p>The Apple/Google relationship has been the subject of a lot of chatter lately as the once closely-tied partners have become increasingly competitive. As <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5483662/how-apple-and-google-fell-out-of-love">Gizmodo</a> pointed out yesterday, Google CEO Eric Schmidt sitting on the Apple board &#8212; whether or not he recused himself from iPhone discussions &#8212; and then turning around and releasing <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/android/">Android</a> and <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/chrome-os/">Chrome OS</a>, when coupled with allegations that Steve Jobs told employees he believed Google was trying to &#8220;<a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/31/ceohsnap-steve-jobs-adobe-lazy-flash-buggy-google-kill-iphone-evil/">kill the iPhone</a>&#8220;, more than hints at a possible motivation.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.9to5mac.com/google-comments-on-apple-suit-45605784">9to5Mac</a> also notes the lawsuit was filed one month <em>to the day</em> after Google <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/02/02/google-copies-iphone-update-pinchtozoom-tablet-competition/">enabled multitouch</a> on the <a href="http://www.imore.com/iphone-nexus-one/">Nexus One</a>, which was 6 months after Eric Schmidt <a href="http://www.imore.com/2009/08/03/googles-eric-schmidt-resigns-apple-board-directors/">resigned</a> from the Apple board.</p>

<p>Sure, Steve Jobs made it a point to <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/02/27/steve-jobs-awards-birthdays-meeting-fears-iphone-312-won-10k/">defend Schmidt</a> at the recent Apple shareholder meeting, and Google keeps saying things are &#8220;<a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/23/google-ceo-relationship-apple-stable-stable/">stable</a>&#8220;, but the best of friends can become the <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/20/applesteve-jobs-dislike-eric-schmidt/">bitterest</a> of rivals. Given the current patent system, Apple has a right to defend their technology &#8212; in the case of Google, they could have far more incentive too as well.</p>

<p>If that&#8217;s the case, then Apple hasn&#8217;t <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/03/02/guest-editorial-forget-innovation/">changed</a> at all &#8212; when&#8217;s the last time we heard about feeling screwed and <em>not</em> retaliating?</p>
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		<title>Ballmer on Bing as iPhone Default, Google and Apple Still &#8220;Stable&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/02/16/ballmer-bing-iphone-default-google-apple-stable/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
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Given the rumors surrounding <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/20/applesteve-jobs-dislike-eric-schmidt/">Apple and Google</a> lately, and the <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/20/apple-microsoft-discussions-oust-google-bing-default-iphone-search-engine/">iPhone and Microsoft Bing</a>, it&#8217;s no wonder <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/mwc10/">Mobile World Congress 2010</a> has raised both topics again, earning a smile]]></description>
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<p>Given the rumors surrounding <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/20/applesteve-jobs-dislike-eric-schmidt/">Apple and Google</a> lately, and the <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/20/apple-microsoft-discussions-oust-google-bing-default-iphone-search-engine/">iPhone and Microsoft Bing</a>, it&#8217;s no wonder <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/mwc10/">Mobile World Congress 2010</a> has raised both topics again, earning a smile from Steve Ballmer, and yet another &#8220;stable&#8221; comment from Google.</p>

<p>First up, <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idCNLDE61E1CF20100215?rpc=44">Reuters</a> has comments from Vic Gundotra, Google mobile engineering lead:</p>

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  <p>&#8220;Apple is a very close and valuable partner and we&#8217;re very excited about the relationship we have with them today. We have no reason to believe that&#8217;s going to change.&#8221; [...] &#8220;We don&#8217;t want to comment on those rumours. We think that relationship is stable.&#8221;</p>
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<p>&#8220;Stable&#8221; being the same word <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/23/google-ceo-relationship-apple-stable-stable/">repeated twice</a> by Google CEO, Eric Schmidt recently when he was similarly asked about the state of the Apple/Google relationship. </p>

<p>Microsoft CEO, Steve Ballmer played things more coyly according to <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE61E31K20100215">Reuters</a>:</p>

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  <p>When asked about the reports, Ballmer said &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t comment either way,&#8221; but smiled, and repeated the phrase when the reporter remarked that Ballmer looked happy.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This once again highlights the broad but internally conflicted scope of Microsoft and Google&#8217;s businesses. Ballmer and Schmidt no doubt want WinPho7s and Android to compete well against the iPhone, but they both also want the revenue from iPhone search traffic &#8212; something Google reportedly pays <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/02/12/google-paying-100-million-year-iphone-search/">$100 million a year</a> for already.</p>
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		<title>Google Makes it onto iPad, Everything &#8220;Stable&#8221; for iPhone too?</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/28/google-ipad-stable-iphone/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
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When Steve Jobs introduced the <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/ipad/">iPad</a>, he showed off the Apple designed but Google fed Maps application, and the Google-ownd YouTube app. He even named Google during the Maps]]></description>
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<p>When Steve Jobs introduced the <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/ipad/">iPad</a>, he showed off the Apple designed but Google fed Maps application, and the Google-ownd YouTube app. He even named Google during the Maps demo. Much has been made about a <a href="http://www.imore.com/2009/08/22/apple-afraid-google-iphone/">falling out between Google</a> and Apple, how <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/20/applesteve-jobs-dislike-eric-schmidt/">Steve Jobs dislikes Eric Schmidt</a>, and how the iPhone would <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/20/apple-microsoft-discussions-oust-google-bing-default-iphone-search-engine/">turn to Microsoft&#8217;s Bing</a> for default search and maps going forward.</p>

<p>if the iPad, running iPhone 3.2, is any indication, nothing much has changed yet. Of course, Eric Schmidt said during the Google conference call that their relationship with Apple was &#8220;<a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/23/google-ceo-relationship-apple-stable-stable/">stable</a>&#8220;, and Apple COO, Tim Cook said during Apple&#8217;s call that while they compete in some areas, they partner in others.</p>

<p>So everything quiet on the Apple/Google front, or just quiet before the storm?</p>

<p>Of course, there was <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/fcc-response/">no sign</a> of <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/26/google-voice-iphone/">Google Voice integration</a>, but we&#8217;re sure they&#8217;ll figure out an up-scaled <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/26/google-unleashes-google-voice-webapp-iphone/">WebApp</a> in no time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Google CEO &#8211; Relationship with Apple &#8220;Stable, Stable&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/23/google-ceo-relationship-apple-stable-stable/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
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<a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/22/google_ceo_schmidt_downplays_perceived_rivalry_with_apple.html">AppleInsider</a> reports that during Google&#8217;s quarterly earnings call, CEO Eric Schmidt was asked about Google&#8217;s relationship with Apple, and responded:

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  &#8220;I, as a former board member, have a special spot </blockquote>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/22/google_ceo_schmidt_downplays_perceived_rivalry_with_apple.html">AppleInsider</a> reports that during Google&#8217;s quarterly earnings call, CEO Eric Schmidt was asked about Google&#8217;s relationship with Apple, and responded:</p>

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  <p>&#8220;I, as a former board member, have a special spot for Apple in my heart, but I will tell you Apple is a very well run company. They have a lot of very good stuff coming. We have a couple of very good partnerships with them, and we also compete with them in a couple of areas. My guess is that is a pretty stable situation for awhile.&#8221;</p>
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<p>And in regards to the rumor Apple is talking with Microsoft about making Bing the default iPhone search engine:</p>

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  <p>&#8220;We are not going to speculate on the marketshare of Apple mobile products. That is for Apple to discuss with you. As far as I can tell, our business structures with Apple are quite stable. I am not going to speculate on any deals of any kind &#8212; rumored, true, not true, you name it. We are not going to talk about it.&#8221;</p>
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<p>So the &#8220;stable&#8221; card gets played twice. Well vetted in comparison to the sensational claims of <a href="http://www.imore.com/2010/01/20/applesteve-jobs-dislike-eric-schmidt/">Steve Jobs hating Eric Schmidt</a>.</p>

<p>Meanwhile the two mega corporations still seem to be, if not locked on a collision course, then certainly ricochetting off each other with increasing frequency. Analyst Yair Reiner <a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/20/oppenheimer_bing_deal_could_bring_apple_more_risk_than_reward.html">phrases it well</a>:</p>

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  <p>&#8220;Apple seeks to be the &#8220;special box in a world of generic services,&#8221; while Google aims to become the &#8220;special service in a world of generic boxes.&#8221; </p>
</blockquote>

<p>And the <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/a-big-picture-look-at-google-microsoft-apple-and-yahoo/?src=twt&#038;twt=nytimesbits">New York Times blog</a> shows it, alongside Microsoft and Yahoo &#8212; in handy blue-dotted fashion &#8212; in the graphic up top. [via <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5455267/empire-building-visualizing-google-microsoft-apple-and-yahoo">Giz</a>]</p>

<p>Are frenemy partners and managed coopetition &#8220;stable&#8221;? Are Apple and Google? Let us know your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Apple Now Own Google Maps Competitor Placebase</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/01/apple-google-maps-competitor-placebase/</link>
		<comments>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/01/apple-google-maps-competitor-placebase/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back in July, Apple stealthily acquired Placebase, a mapping company that provides a service similar to Google Maps, but with more robust customizations and set of APIs, called Pushpin, for]]></description>
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<p>Back in July, Apple stealthily acquired Placebase, a mapping company that provides a service similar to Google Maps, but with more robust customizations and set of APIs, called Pushpin, for layering data sets over maps.</p>

<p>Google and Apple have been steadily moving from friends to frenemies of late, with the advent of <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/android/">Android</a> and CloudOS, the whole <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/google-voice/">Google Voice</a> and <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/google-latitude/">Google Latitude</a> rejection <a href="http://www.imore.com/tag/fcc-response/">brouhaha</a>, and <a href="http://www.imore.com/2009/08/03/googles-eric-schmidt-resigns-apple-board-directors/">Google&#8217;s CEO leaving Apple&#8217;s board</a>. TiPb&#8217;s conjectured that Apple might see <a href="http://www.imore.com/2009/08/22/apple-afraid-google-iphone/">Google as trying to take over everyone else&#8217;s platform</a> as well, so it makes a certain amount of sense (especially given their history with the Mac) to have in-house backups for all the services Google currently offers for the iPhone. A billion-dollar data center might factor into that as well&#8230;</p>

<p>Given that Apple wrote the iPhone Maps app themselves, and just used Google for the backend, a switch to Apple Maps might even be transparent to the end user. TiPb&#8217;s also discussed Apple&#8217;s philosophy that the interface is the app, which again shows why Apple might be hesitant to give UI over to Google through Google Voice or Latitude &#8212; they can&#8217;t swap that out as easily.</p>

<p>Regardless, it will be interesting to see what an Apple Maps might look like&#8230;</p>

<p>(via <a href="http://9to5mac.com/Jaron-Waldman-Apple-Pushpin-Placebase">9to5mac</a> and <a href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/14835/apple_purchased_mapping_company_in_july_to_replace_google">Computerworld</a>)</p>
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