iMessage and FaceTime and iChat, oh my!
This year at WWDC 2011 Apple announced iMessage, a BBM-like instant messaging service built right into the SMS/MMS app. They also built Twitter right into the OS, for clip sharing in Safari, Photos, etc. and come this fall, authentication for the official Twitter app and others. Last year at WWDC 2010 they introduced FaceTime, a video calling service that existed first in the Phone app, then later in its own app on iPod touch, Mac, and iPad. Back in 2002, Apple introduced iChat, an instant messaging service that eventually gained video calling and video conferencing support, as well as desktop sharing and more.
iMessages is proprietary and only on iOS right now. Twitter is proprietary but cross-platform. FaceTime is a collection of open standards that Apple has promised to release the specs for but hasn't as of yet. It's also iOS and Mac OS X only right now. iChat uses both proprietary (like AIM) and open (like Jabber) protocols, with different level of feature and functionality support depending on which you use (though you can use more than one). It's Mac only, but the protocols can be used in other apps on other platforms.
iMessage and FaceTime can both use the same Apple ID, and I can launch into FaceTime via a button in iMessage, but they don't really work together, not the way Skype calls and chat do, for example. Twitter is treated like a separate systems, and iChat is an island all its own.
I can't iMessage someone on Mac or Windows. I can't iChat someone on iOS unless they install a 3rd party app like BeeJive or AIM, and I can't easily switch between text video/voice in the same app.
iChat on Mac OS X could conceivably become a blended iMessage and FaceTime client. Change iChat's name to iMessage and have FaceTime calls as easy to launch from Mac OS X (and hopefully Windows one day) as they are on iOS. Add a similar way to switch back from FaceTime and things might "just work" better.
However, Apple seems to be improving the iChat app in Mac OS X Lion all on its own, with no iMessage or FaceTime support in sight. So that doesn't look like an immediate possibility.
Hopefully Apple is working on this, and we won't have to wait for iOS 7 and Mac OS X 10.8 to get a grand, unified messaging system.
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My opinion: FaceTime and iChat will never combine. Otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with Facetime.app
In their eyes, iChat is for AIM, FaceTime is the new video chat.
iChat and iMessage are similar but different. iMessage is supposed to mimic texting, which is slightly different to instant messaging. I think there is a more likely chance of iMessage and iChat being combined (at least on the Mac side), but with no iChat for iOS, I am doubtful.
I would expect some form of Mac OSX iMessage though. Whether that be combined into iChat, or a separate app, is anyone's guess. Notably, Lion got push notifications, so iMessage makes even more sense, with that functionality available (no need to keep an app open, etc).
But yeah, it is frustrating.
Even better idea Rene...just take iChat and make it the new (insert iName here). Whether that's iMessage with Facetime capabilities and cross platform abilities. Or Facetime with iMessage capabilities.
For Apple, this should be an evolutionary step. One application to house all features instead of iChat, iMessage, Facetime being separate.
I'm suggesting the same thing for Google and their Voice, Talk/Video.
If both Apple and Google could combine their products in their camps, then offer cross platform ability (i.e. Facetime/iMessage/iChat users being able to text/video/call with Google Voice/Talk/Video users). Both Android and iOS would just become so much better...basically destroying the need for 3rd place OS but still pushing each other to innovate their ass off.
Exactly, unification and wider support would be much appreciated - come on, Apple!!
Two questions to those who use the iOS 5 Beta: 1) Can you still choose to send an SMS to someone you would usually send iMessages to? For example if you know that his Push notifications don't work 100% of the time (or if the person is abroad and has disabled roaming), can you switch back to SMS in the Messages app? 2) Apple said iMessages have delivery receipts. Do SMS's finally have delivery receipts as well? (Or do I still need to install a Jailbreak addon for that...)
Thanks!!
iConnect. Bring FaceTime, iMessages, iChat all in one.
I saw a demo of iMessage and I'm actually not to crazy about how their implementing it . It looks way too much like SMS
That's kinda the point of iMessage though!
iMessage would be better if they take it out of sms!! What's the point if I still have a max of 160 characters...not impressed!!!! I love Apple iMessage will never be or compare to BBM if it continues to lack basic features...get it together Apple!!!!
It seems more likely that iChat and iMessage will be combined at some point. Honestly, iChat seems to have stagnated on the Mac anyway.
It doesn't seem to far out of the realm of possibility that Apple simply replaces iChat with a new iMessage client for Lion. However, FaceTime seems to be - intentionally - an entirely different product.
This is probably because while text/messaging is a fairly standard feature (barring the innovations inherent to iMessage), FaceTime is billed as a feature unto itself.
Whether that will change in the future remains to be seen; however, it seems likely that, at least in the short term, Apple will keep iChat/iMessage and FaceTime as separate apps.
I know its a mess now and for those of us waiting for iChat to be useful its been a mess for a very VERY long time. But it does seem like these technologies finally will merge and we'll say "wow, this works better than anything else".
I really cant wait. I can iMessage someone from an iPhone who can message me back to my computer and then I can Facetime with them on my iPad all in one smooth conversation.
How is this news??
Consider it an editorial, and I along with many other readers appreciate this discussion starter the team has provided.
Surely there's nothing to stop Apple unveiling 'VoiceTime', using the FaceTme api, seeing as it'll use less data than video?
Well said! i was thinking this to my self couple days ago when i saw the announcement of iMessage.... and all in one messaging system would be AWESOME!
There doesn't seem to be much of a need for iChat at the moment, just for iMessage to come to the mac.
The great thing about FaceTime over iChat's video calling is not only that you can call phone to phone and phone to desktop but that you can initiate a Facetime call to any device without that device being logged in or the other party having the app open. In fact you don't even need a proper login for FaceTime you just register your existing phone number or email address.
The problem with FaceTime when it was launched was that it left computers out of the equation allowing only phones (and only new phones at that) to use this functionality. When it came to the mac it replaced the need for iChat.
iMessage now needs to connect to macs as well to be truly useful. Once that's done, and possibly you can initiate FaceTime calls straight from iMessage, who needs iChat anymore?
I would like to have iChat on my iPod touch! Can't wait till iOS 5!!
iAgree Rene. At the moment this is a convoluted mess. There should be just one messenging app on each platform. As a user iDontCare if the technology behind it is iChat/XMPP, iMessage/MMS, or FaceTime. My activity at that moment is communication. It would be great if the software would just allow me to concentrate on that activity, regardless of the device or technology the other person is using at that moment, because the chance is big that iDontKnow.
Facetime is buggy as hell. I won't start using it until it is at least nearly as stable & solid as the Mac OS.
Personally, I'm not so sure merging with iChat is a great idea. Initially, it would seem an obvious step forward to merge all these technologies into one. However, there are a lot of practical features in iChat which would be lost. As simply one example. The ease of screen sharing etc/ theatre feature in Final Cut Pro. I have clients around the world who I do this with.
does anybody know how to record FaceTime calls?
i heard a lot of positive opinions about this nice tool http://www.imcapture.com/IMCaptureforMicrosoft_Messenger/, i'd recommend to use it!) but thanx)
hi pany how are you chat to me xxx