New Verizon iPhone 4S commercial

Verizon has released a new iPhone 4S commercial, once again touting the breadth of their network. This time, while several -- we're left to guess AT&T iPhone users -- are left to flounder due to their lack of signal, the one Verizon iPhone user among them connects heroically and without issue.

(Might have been more powerful if all the other people were on Verizon, easily connecting, and only the one hapless guy was left adrift, watching everyone else succeed.)

Anyone here actually switch from AT&T to Verizon for the iPhone 4S? Happy with the choice?

New Verizon iPhone 4S commercial

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New Verizon iPhone 4S commercial

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Verizon has had simultaneous data and voice since LTE. That being said, it's only available for 4G devices.

I've never had a need for this outside of my home and work, all of which have wifi. Plus I can actually complete calls, very important since I work form home at times. I went from 1 - 2 bars on my AT&T 3GS to 5 bars on my Verizon 4. The reliability of VZW is unmatched and such a breath of fresh air. I'm in a very large city, where there is no excuse to have horrible coverage for AT&T.
Show's you where VZW's priorities are... Yes, old argument is old...

Question for Verizon iPhone users- Since when did Verizon's network go from CDMA USA to "global"? Is there a pre-programmed "world" micro sim already installed? And if that is the case and they can do that, why can't Sprint do that??

Have you had an opportunity to test that out in Europe? And if so, are you considered to be "roaming" with jacked up fees, or no?

I have not experienced it over in Europe but I would assume that if you just go over there and start using data you would be considered roaming and get charged ridiculous rates. That is with any smartphone and with any carrier. The smart person would call Verizon before they travel so they can get put on the appropriate plan to avoid those roaming charges.

I have not experienced it over in Europe but I would assume that if you just go over there and start using data you would be considered roaming and get charged ridiculous rates. That is with any smartphone and with any carrier. The smart person would call Verizon before they travel so they can get put on the appropriate plan to avoid those roaming charges.

VZ and Sprint will unlock the SIM card card for you if you are a customer in good standing for 60 days or more. It will not work with a US SIM card, however (I'd be curious to know if it works with H2O wireless, it does NOT work with AT&T I am sure of). AT&T will not unlock the phone for you regardless.
Also, until last week the Sprint iPhone 4Ss sold were already unlocked.

VZ and Sprint will unlock the SIM card card for you if you are a customer in good standing for 60 days or more. It will not work with a US SIM card, however (I'd be curious to know if it works with H2O wireless, it does NOT work with AT&T I am sure of). AT&T will not unlock the phone for you regardless.
Also, until last week the Sprint iPhone 4Ss sold were already unlocked.

I switched to VZW and am very happy with call completion and quality. I also am able to get data in places where AT&T would choke even with 4-5 bars. (busy arenas, large park gatherings, etc.)
I do miss the simultaneous voice and data as now I have to tell the caller I'll call them back, but I can live with that until iPhone LTE comes out. I also don't like how VZW handles multiple calls. I used to be able to hang up on the current call and pick up the new call, but VZW seems to only let me put the current call on hold. ???

Seems that both Sprint and VZW have International SIMs in the phones and want you to buy their overly expensive roaming plans. After 60 days with VZW (90 with Sprint?) you can call and have them unlock the SIM slot and you should be able to buy a INTL PAYG SIM.

Seems that both Sprint and VZW have International SIMs in the phones and want you to buy their overly expensive roaming plans. After 60 days with VZW (90 with Sprint?) you can call and have them unlock the SIM slot and you should be able to buy a INTL PAYG SIM.

Seems that both Sprint and VZW have International SIMs in the phones and want you to buy their overly expensive roaming plans. After 60 days with VZW (90 with Sprint?) you can call and have them unlock the SIM slot and you should be able to buy a INTL PAYG SIM.

Seems that both Sprint and VZW have International SIMs in the phones and want you to buy their overly expensive roaming plans. After 60 days with VZW (90 with Sprint?) you can call and have them unlock the SIM slot and you should be able to buy a INTL PAYG SIM.

I was with Verizon for 11 years before going to AT&T on iPhone 4 launch day because I was tired of waiting for Verizon to get the iPhone. Even though Verizon finally now has it, I have not looked back since. I have had no real issues with AT&T, they have rollover, and are significantly cheaper.

Yes, it's mainly an urban myth that iPhone on AT&T has poor coverage or dropped calls. Sure, 2, 3 years it was an issue, but AT&T has spent billions upgrading. My iPhone 4 hasn't dropped a call for the last year, never has issues connecting, etc...

AT&T definitely has worse rural coverage than Verizon. I travel a lot for work, and my Verizon BB 9700 has a signal when my AT&T Atrix doesn't far more often than it's the other way around.

Try telling that to the people in San Francisco and Los Angeles who've had coverage problems since Day 1. I live in the middle of L.A. and almost never had a usable signal on my AT&T iPhone. My wife used to joke that she hoped never to be stalked by a serial killer because she'd never be able to complete a call for help on her iPhone. We had zero signal in our apartment (and the MicroCell was iffy and had a range of maybe 10-15 feet), and even standing outside of our building on the street, we were lucky if we got 1-2 bars on EDGE -- since we were in the midst of a six-block patch of EDGE in our area despite AT&T's signal maps telling us we were fully covered by a strong 3G signal.
We switched to Verizon when the iPhone 4S came out, and it's practically changed our lives. I haven't dropped a call in the month since I got my new phone, I have data coverage fast enough to stream music pretty much everywhere I go, and I never have to worry anymore about missing calls or mysterious voicemails just showing up on my phone hours after I allegedly missed these calls that never registered.
Also, when Hurricane Irene hit the Eastern Seaboard, a friend in Virginia told me his partner's AT&T phone lost all service early on, while his Verizon phone maintained a strong signal while the storm raged.

I in the Tampa Bay area. And since the Republican National Convention is going to be here next year, AT&T has spent hundreds of millions of dollars to make sure the network is secure and reliable, since AT&T is the telecommunication partner. I have signal anywhere i go within a 300 mile radius of Tampa.

Happy for you... I've never been to Tampa in my entire life, so that doesn't help me. Also, I hope that AT&T's infrastructure buildout is as robust as they're claiming, because they made similar claims in Austin, but the AT&T network crashes there every time they hold SXSW.

I in the Tampa Bay area. And since the Republican National Convention is going to be here next year, AT&T has spent hundreds of millions of dollars to make sure the network is secure and reliable, since AT&T is the telecommunication partner. I have signal anywhere i go within a 300 mile radius of Tampa.

You sure you live in the middle of LA, because honestly, AT&T service out here in LA has been almost excellent. The only time I have poor signal in the West Hollywood and Mid-City areas (Voice OK, Data NOT), other than that, no complaints.

Yes, I'm sure I live in the middle of Los Angeles. West Hollywood is where I live, and I spend a lot of time in the Mid-City/Miracle Mile area. Given the number of people who live/work here, it's unacceptable to have this big of a problem area in a major metro. I've also had noticeable and reproducible signal problems in Beverly Hills and through the canyons, though there are no issues there for my Verizon iPhone.

Try telling that to the people in San Francisco and Los Angeles who've had coverage problems since Day 1. I live in the middle of L.A. and almost never had a usable signal on my AT&T iPhone. My wife used to joke that she hoped never to be stalked by a serial killer because she'd never be able to complete a call for help on her iPhone. We had zero signal in our apartment (and the MicroCell was iffy and had a range of maybe 10-15 feet), and even standing outside of our building on the street, we were lucky if we got 1-2 bars on EDGE -- since we were in the midst of a six-block patch of EDGE in our area despite AT&T's signal maps telling us we were fully covered by a strong 3G signal.
We switched to Verizon when the iPhone 4S came out, and it's practically changed our lives. I haven't dropped a call in the month since I got my new phone, I have data coverage fast enough to stream music pretty much everywhere I go, and I never have to worry anymore about missing calls or mysterious voicemails just showing up on my phone hours after I allegedly missed these calls that never registered.
Also, when Hurricane Irene hit the Eastern Seaboard, a friend in Virginia told me his partner's AT&T phone lost all service early on, while his Verizon phone maintained a strong signal while the storm raged.

"Significantly cheaper???" I don't think so. Very similar in pricing. I work for a Verizon retailer, and have AT&T. (Still in contract. Only worked at Verizon for a few months.) To move my family to Verizon, it would be about the same cost.
Verizon definitely does have better rural coverage, and better data in those rural areas. AT&T does have good coverage in cities. Though, I have heard of bad coverage and problems in major metros sometimes.

I switched to Verizon with the iPhone 4S and am happy with my choice. AT&T failed to work reliably in the three places I needed it to work. AT&T gave me a weak signal in my home in CT and required a Microcell, they gave me five bars of 3G at work in midtown Manhattan but I could rarely make or receive calls or access the web, and on my frequent trips to central, rural New Hampshire, I'd see no signal. Even where AT&T worked reliably, I've found Verizon's network to be consistently faster. In ideal conditions (e.g. standing stationary by a cell tower), AT&T is faster but I do not use my iPhone under ideal conditions nor should one have to. Under realistic conditions, Verizon has performed the best for me with data and voice.
Not having simultaneous data and voice on Verizon doesn't bother me. I thought it would but I never used it on AT&T. Again, reliability is far more important to me. I have an LTE MiFi device, so if I didn't have access to WiFi hotspot and needed simultaneous voice and data, I could just turn on my MiFi. The main reason I bought the MiFi was so I could work on the train from my laptop over LTE. It was not so I could have simultaneous voice and data on my iPhone.

Just a note regarding simultaneous voice and data... I use Waze, but it does not work when I am on a conference call in my car when I am on my Verizon iPhone 4. So for situations like that, simultaneous voice and data are needed. That said I will stay with Verizon because of the coverage and voice quality in my area.

Switched to Verizon. Thrilled. AT&T's network is beyond poor where I live. Though I've had an iPhone for four years now, I feel like I've FINALLY arrived with the 4S on Verizon. Simulaneous voice/data and faster download speeds are all well and good as long as you've got a usable signal. Around me Verizon's data is actually faster simply by virtue of it having a much better signal. With AT&T I needed three bars to even make a phone call. One or two bars was more or less synonymous with no service at all.

He means that AT&T's claims of being able to support simultaneous voice and data (as well as faster download speeds) mean nothing if you don't have a signal from AT&T to be able to use those functions.

My Verizon phone (Thunderbolt - Android) does simultaneous voice/data just fine - with 3G OR 4G signals. The new HTC Rezound (Android) is the same. And, ALL Verizon 4G phones can do simultaneous voice and data when they have a 4G signal. Just so you know.
And I've gotten 40Mbps downloads through my Verizon 4G phone, which is fantastic when I'm using it as a Mobile Hotspot for my laptop or tablet and other people's laptops and tablets.

I will not be at all surprised to see Apple have Verizon pull this add. It more makes most of the iPhones look bad, than Verizon looking better than other networks.

I moved from the ATT to the Verizon Iphone 4s. I always had pretty good service with Verizon in my area, but it seems like I am not seeing that with the Iphone 4s. Less bars, and I now see the "o" for weak data signals anytime I am inside a building. Not as happy as I had thought I'd be

My problem with the lack of simultaneous voice and data is that when I'm on the phone, Exchange email is interrupted and any chat services I happen to be signed into are logged out. Email and Google Talk are both important work things for me, and being without them during a 30-minute call is an inconvenience.

As most of the people here mentioned, AT&T is great when you are in the city or suburbs, but go out into the country, and you are screwed. I was with AT&T for 15 years, until I bought a house in the country. I had to switch to Sprint, to get a signal in the country and the city. But I have a co-worker who lives in a different rural area; Verizon is king there, and still AT&T sux out in the country by his house. It really depends on which rural area you are in, but your choice will only be AT&T if you only move about in the city.

As most of the people here mentioned, AT&T is great when you are in the city or suburbs, but go out into the country, and you are screwed. I was with AT&T for 15 years, until I bought a house in the country. I had to switch to Sprint, to get a signal in the country and the city. But I have a co-worker who lives in a different rural area; Verizon is king there, and still AT&T sux out in the country by his house. It really depends on which rural area you are in, but your choice will only be AT&T if you only move about in the city.

I moved from being a happy Verizon customer to AT&T for the iPhone. I am in the Pacific NW, and the dropped calls issue is unacceptable on AT&T. On any given day, I would have as many as 7 or 8. A joke. I switched back to Verizon with the iPhone 4S. One month now, and no dropped calls... perfect voice reception. Data speed is about on par. It is rare that I need voice & data at the same time, so the trade off to actually be able to make a phone call and hold it far outweighs any inconvenience of data/voice at the same time. So I stand by my decision and am still pleased that I switched back. With that being said, there are many items that are just different (most related to data): voice mail only comes in when a call is disconnected / if I place a call using SIRI, I have a wait a second after disconnect to ask SIRI to place another call (it has to re-establish the data connection) / Call handling is different... when a second call comes in on the line, the switch is MUCH longer with Verizon / no email while I am on a call / I am on wifi at home, but when I drive off it takes a second to switch over to 3G so SIRI misbehaves. So, yes... AT&T does have its advantages... but it is first a foremost a PHONE! Since my business depends absolutely on voice, Verizon is the clear choice. (love the commercial, so true... and also love the fact that they all SAVED their iPhones!)

Blah blah blah... I don't have it therefore I don't need it, therefore nobody else needs it either. Yeah, right.
The Verizon Thunderbolt and Rezound can both do simultaneous voice and 3G or 4G data.
Who needs it? Here are some examples:

  • My g/f and I are riding together (either commuting or on a road trip). I turn on the Mobile Hotspot on my phone and I carry on a voice conversation via Bluetooth handsfree while she continues to surf/email/etc on her iPad that is using WiFi to go through my phone.
  • I travel for work semi-regularly. I stay in a hotel that does not have free WiFi (which turns out to be a fair number of higher end hotels - i.e. the kind that are common for business travelers. I use my phone as a hotspot to be online with my laptop, and I can still make and receive calls at the same time. And if I'm in a 4G area, it's generally faster than using the hotel's WiFi anyway.
  • I'm currently traveling for work and the apartment they are putting me up in does not have (and can't get) hi-speed Internet. It barely has 3G coverage. But with my Thunderbolt, I can still be working online from the apartment and make/take calls while doing so.

Simultaneous voice and data and 4G LTE speeds are all about mobility. They're about being able to do, on the go, what you used to have to be at home or in your office to do. "exit the Interstate and look for a place that has free wifi"?? Really??!?! What a joke! Why do you even bother to own a cell phone at all?
You used to have to be at home or work to be reached by phone. Then cell phones became common and you just had to be at work or home to get online, then cellular data became common. Then you just had to be at work or home to download big files or do video chat. Now, you can do it all from just about anywhere. If you don't make excuses for your phone...

Because the implication that they make shitty products for other carriers speaks badly of Apple as a company. They don't just care about sales figures. Image and brand prestige are extremely important to Apple.

I'm not sure if I see that. It IS the same iPhone (there is only one iPhone 4S — the fact that it has been provisioned for VZ vs. AT&T does not make it a different phone). That may be lost on most viewers, but it may not, so I am not sure if that is the case. When I see that ad, all I think about is coverage, not that they make a different phone for the different carriers.

Apple will care because they could be making sales on both carries at the same time rather then making people question their provider and possibly ending up with something other then an iPhone. There is mixed messages here. They make a valid point regarding their service being more extensive but linking that fact to the Apple brand was a mistake. Poor judgement on their part. But they are famous for four poor judgement when it comes to their customers and their products.

Yeah, I am in Seattle, have not had one dropped call on AT&T with the 4S, and am seeing speeds as high as 7.8 MBits. WOuld not give that speed up for anything. Until LTE iPhone is out, AT&T certainly has my business...

Phoenix, AZ resident that switched to Verizon. I had Verizon for 4 years before switching to AT&T for the 3GS. The service was terrible and has been for 2 1/2 years. So glad to be back on Verizon. I actually get coverage at my desk at work!

funny, but anybody ever actually try to get a signal off the coast of california? is it true. my only experience is with sprint and i live three blocks from the beach. once you get actually on the beach you get no data.

AT&T proudly marks the facade of a 20+ storey business center within which they operate in New Haven, CT. Over a period of 2 years, I couldn't believe the amount of dropped calls and connection problems that I experienced living just 3 blocks away with my iPhone 3GS. The problems persisted up and down the heavily populated southern coast of Connecticut.
I have since switched to 4S on Verizon and am pleased to report a remarkable difference in call quality. In this area, AT&T is a miserable option for smartphone coverage.

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