iPhone 4S release date: October 14, 2011

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It took then a year and a half almost just to come out with an upgraded version of an iPhone 4? What a disappointment.

meh. This is the start of the downfall of Apple.
Well it started off with Mr Jobs resignation. Next iPhone 5 being delayed and once Microsoft & Nokia work things out, things wont look the best for Apple.
Guess Apple sales of iPhone 4 S will tell !

the downfall of Apple, really???? Me thinks you might be over reacting just a bit......

check the stock market. Its just the begining,
16 months and no major (cosmetic) hardware update, when the competiton is blowing Apple out of the water ?
And add to that the fact that people will now realize that without Jobs , Apple doesnt have the same vision and charisma. The keynoe was pretty lame. Me think youre too blinded by your fanboyism ;)

Competition is what? I have 4 android device users at my office who want to switch to iPhones, the only reason android sells is because the Galaxy S II came out cheaper then the over an year old iPhone 4.
Apple is expensive, that's why people cling to thei spec sheets and make themselfs feel better with their android devices. The usefulness of a mobile device doesn't just get down to specs. The overall quality and usability of a device is what counts and android is no where near ios, I've had both and I'm sticking to my iPhone 4.
Will I buy the 4s? Well sure no, but I will buy the 5, abd then the 7 and so on. Appke is not failing, they have so far continued to grow. It's amasing how the most expensive smartphone (i4) is still the top selling one in my country.

If I'm Right, The 3G And 3GS Design Lasted 24 Months. How Did We Survive Then?

I wanted to jump ship on Sprint to go to Verizon, but no new iphone means I'll stick with my Evo until an iphone 5 comes out.
And for what it's worth, I'm aware that Sprint has the iphone now... I just wanted to leave cause they suck.

If you want to "Jump ship" to Verizon then get the nexus when it comes out. iPhones are all basically the same in the long run...

Wow REALLY..??? now big screen at least 4 inch screen ??? What a HUGE MISTAKE ON THE PART OF APPLE!!!!!

A larger screen would force one of two things. Either 1) Apple would have to give up the "Retina Display" that they're so proud of, or 2) app developers would have to bump up the artwork in their apps again. It seems logical to me to stick with the established norm.

1) There are Android-based phones with 4+ inch screens that are coming out (or are already out, I can't keep up) that offer either same or better resolution as the Retina Display.
2) Like it or not, 4-inch screen and larger are the norm with the exception of Apple, so developers will eventually have to "bump up the artwork" anyway. Even if Apple sticks with 3.5 inches, if they bump up the resolution on that size screen, the developers will have to alter their programs.
Apps are built for the phone, not the other way around.
Apple will survive. iP4S will be a big seller, no doubt. Still, in my opinion, this move is very disappointing and a mistake by Apple. The company that once led the industry is now falling behind. Catch up is a very hard game to play in this day. Look at RIM...they have been down this road, and they will most likely never catch up. Not in the consumer market, anyway.

How can even began to compare RIM to Apple please... Mistake on your part...

I'm not comparing the companies or their products. I was merely pointing out that catching up is a hard game to play in the smartphone world, and was pointing out that was the biggest mistake RIM made.
Try to read my reply in its whole context, and don't just cherry pick a sentence. Mistake on YOUR part.

Retina Display aka real name IPS LCD Display will definitely diminish with higher screen, but if Samsung was able to bring a phone in europe and Korea with 720p resolution which is way higher than apple, I dont see why they cant bring it on a higher screen, now the RAM is a dissapointment, 512? really? 1GB is the norm now, and expect higher

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Wow! What a BIG disappointment... the 4S is just an iPhone 4 with a few upgraded specs.
Apple stock price is down nearly 4%...

I think I may hold off and wait

Will there be a factory unlocked version for sale in the US?

just get an Android

I bought an Android and returned it. Verizon charged me $330 to terminate my contract on that piece of crap phone. The iPhone is the right choice for anybody looking for a powerful and user friendly phone.
I'm a technical support person, and since my bad experience with an Android phone, I always encourage new buyers of cell phones to stay away from the android phones. The iPhone is in a different league. The iPhone doesn't come loaded with crappy adware, and it has thousands more app choices and they actually all work!

Really? I had the iPhone and it was a piece of crap. Only good thing sold it for 100 more than gave. I recommend Android.

you must have bought a low end android have you checked the Samsung Galaxy S2? beats the Iphone in every aspect and is more fluid and no adware that I am aware of on android, if you get a free app with ads, is the reason you are getting it for free, if you pay for them no ads will be there, and anything preloaded on the phone is up to the carrier to include. All most important apps that you can get on Iphone you can also get on android

I think he meant bloatware.

Wish they would have spoken more about the Sprint edition. Will it use EVDO Rev.B, which is supposed to be faster? Nice evolution of the iPhone 4 but next year's model will be the true upgrade. Apple will have LTE for at least Verizon's and AT&T's iPhone 5's.

Any word on what time we can pre-order on October 7? 3AM?

That would be DAMN.

All of this talking about the fall of Apple??? Really what a joke. Yes current iPhone 4 users and potential Android switchovers will be upset a bit but if you watched the keynote only 50% of iPhone users have an iPhone 4 so alot of people will qualify for an upgrade and be very happy to have this phone.

I don't know about this. I'm barely into my iPhone 4. I should have waited a little while longer but I know with iOS 5 coming for the 4, I'll just do the update and stick with it until my new phone upgrade is up for Verizon and get the iPhone 5 with 4G.

The new camera and the Siri voice control looks very interesting. Siri looks very integrated with the rest of the apps and iOS. Plus Apples marketing will drive this new market...Apple is changing the landscape again and pulling the market in a new direction. They are at least one or two steps ahead of the competition. The clueless street does not get it yet...Apple at least did NOT call it the iPhone 5, but the 4S which OK with me. When the 5 comes out it will likely have even further integration with the iCloud and the new iPad.

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I like the Siri feature.

since apple was selling unlocked iPhone 4's, will these new 4S phones also be unlocked, especially since the prices are subsidized by the carriers? Or will have to buy at an Apple store unlocked ones (just curious)?

so will this be inside of the carrier stores unlike last year iphone4?

I love the retards that say this is the end of Apple, you do realize they are one of the most successfully / cash on hand companies in the WORLD. Even if this release is disappointing to some (typically only those who have a iPhone 4), all my android friends (all 3 of them, are going to the iPhone 4s), I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt this is the end of Apple.. those of you who think so, are retards.. pure and simple.
And maybe you retards should also take a look at the sales #'s for the pre order, AT&T.. 200,000 in 24 hours. Apples initial shipment, sold out in under 24hrs...
sounds like a flop to me.. idiots

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