Could the iPhone 5 have a 4-inch screen while keeping the same 4S footprint?
What if, in order to fit a 4-inch screen into the next iPhone, instead of changing the iPhone chassis or altering the Retina-grade pixel density, Apple simply switched from a 3:2 to a 9:5 aspect ratio? The Home screen could simply show another row of icons, apps with listviews could simply show another list item, videos could simply be shown wider-screen, and current, non-scalable apps could simply be boxed the way iPhone apps are on iPads. The display would maintain the 1.94-inch width, but be bumped up to 3.49 inches long, resulting in a 640 x 1152 resolution and measure 3.99 inches diagonally. Such a display would fit on the 4.5" x 2.3" footprint of the current iPhone while providing 20% more screen space, though the home button and earpiece might need a bit of reworking.
A reader on The Verge, Timothy Collins, posited just theory on how Apple might implement a 4-inch screen with the iPhone 5.. Another forum-goer picked up the theory and went to town describing how it might work. Now, this wasn't much more than a neat hypothetical idea until Daring Fireball's Jon Gruber commented "Methinks 'Colin' wasn’t merely guessing or idly speculating." Developers might have a few changes to make in order to adapt to the new screen size, but overall, the idea is pretty sound, if only in theory. Let's put it this way: could Apple reasonably release another iPhone while keeping the display size at 3.5 inches? What are the odds that they're willing to increase the physical dimensions to do so? Right now, screen real estate is my biggest complaint about the iPhone, but I love the fact that it fits in the tiny pocket on my jeans. Though I'm not asking Apple to release something the size of the Galaxy Note, it would be nice to see a screen in the 3.7 - 4-inch range. What do you guys think? Could this theory fly?
Source: Daring Fireball, The Verge
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So basically, KEEP the size. (Yea I'm not entirely sober either...)
However, were the extra "band" were reserved... Well, think about it. Reserve it for displaying movies with minimal letterboxing. When apps run, they display letter boxed but notifications, optional status bar, Siri, and all push-up stuff could display without moving or obscuring the app. It'd be a good place to put widgets (yeah, right). It would also be a place for Apple-provided GUI user controls (programmable standard joystick sims, buttons) that don't cover the app.
Speculation, but fun speculation. Read the original article. It's good.
And what would be the end result of all that grief? A 20% increase in pixel count in one dimension. No increase in pixel density. No actual benefit to end users.
So yes, Gruber hints that "Colin" may be more than just an idle speculator. But no, this isn't the kind of thing Apple does. Unless, of course, there is some benefit to iOS device users. Which isn't the case here.
1) In this mockup, the pixels would not be resized, nor would the pixel density be changed.
2) The screen resolution would increase from 960x640 to 1152x640 -- the screen will be an extra 192 pixels taller.
The good developers FlopTech cites would want to do something with those extra 192 vertical pixels, rather than leave it to some system-level auto-stretching or letterboxing. The Verge article, if you click through, is full of hypothetical screenshots of how Apple and a few third party developers might adjust their apps accordingly.
Things like twitter apps etc wouldn't have any stretching or letterboxing of any kind.
That screen, of course, would have to be less than 4" diagonal to maintain the Retina pixel density. So it could, in theory, be around 3.8" or so. Apple could continue to claim "Retina resolution," users who think bigger is better would get their wish, and the visible area of the screen could still fit within a 4/4S-sized frame.
And, with apologies to Georgia, we don't think the iPhone needs any bezel at all along the longer edges of its screen. We'd love to see the screen become totally flush with the physical edges of the iPhone itself. (But that might be impossible, or expensive, or damage-prone, of course.)
Sometimes you need to freshen things up even of its not broken ;)
Best iPhone 5 = 4" screen by making it 1/4th inch wider. Keep the same height having less empty space above and below the screen. Make it thinner with curved edges like the iPad (& iPhone3GS) by adding a plastic or metal one piece back and getting rid of the glass on the back and add 4G LTE. 1GB RAM and a A5X or A6 processor.
Personally I'm not trying to kick back & watch anything longer than a 10 minute YouTube video on my phone. If that's you're thing then you probably need to invest in a tablet or use AirPlay to get the experience you're looking for.
I Snowboard, Bike, Run, etc & often listen to music. Any bigger of a physical frame on the phone & it would become too cumbersome. I like that it slips in & out of my pocket easily. I've seen others with bigger android phones & when they're holding those beasts up to their head it reminds me of the first brink style cell phone. No thanks.
New rumor from Business Insider today; 4" screen, new body, LTE, yadda yadda yadda...
The only way Apple can increase screen size is to double the resolution. However, this enables to be very flexible about screen size as they'd be well past the retina threshhold for any phone size.
1920x1280. When we first heard about the iphone 4's resolution, many were in disbelief. Many said the same about the ipad 3's resolution a year ago..couldn't be done. This will be done. Maybe not with iphone 5 but it will happen.
All this fragmentation so people can have what? A tall stretched out iphone with an extra row of icons? What's the point?
Apple has not disappointed me yet, and I have faith that the next iPhone will be right. I believe Steve was still involved in the iPhone 5 prior to passing away and I hope they stick to his vision with the uncompleted tasks he still wanted to be involved in. Just like others, I'm not crazy to see the new appleTV software update. Something's just need to be left alone.
Anyways, I don't think the new iPhone will be a disappointment unless they make it 4" to which I will not be happy with it. I like the small size it is. If you want to enlarge the iPod touch, then so be it... Make it a little iPad, but leave my iPhone alone when it comes to size.
The whole "one-handed usability" thing is overblown complaining to me - I don't have huge hands, and I can easily cover the entire front surface of the iPhone (and larger Android and Win7 phones) with my thumb.
The "326ppi" thing - I don't care. It's nice, no argument there, but it's overkill on a phone. Period. If it drops a bit to merely "fantastic" resolution in order to compensate for more screen real-estate, I say do it. Do it.
Many folks have a semi-bulky case on their device, so they're already used to carrying a total device package that is wider than any new iPhone will be.
Eventually they'll have to break the mold and move forward.
Did Sony worry too much about how ps2 games would look on a ps3 ?! No!
Just create something new and let us enjoy new apps made for the new device , while we can still enjoy all the old apps even though they may have a black bar.
Apple also loves to talk about how android apps don't look right having to fit different screen sizes. Having bars surrounding apps wouldn't exactly look good either.
I'm not set in stone either on the current screen size though i have no problems using my iphone now. But I'd want them to do it right if they increase it. Keep the quality the same or better. Don't break apps. I got a zillion of them.
I would rather have access to a handfull of new apps that are made for the new device, while having access to all old apps and waiting for newer apps to come.
Its exactly like when I bought my Playstation 2. the library was rather thin to begin with, but I had access to all my old PS1 games. Same thing when PS3 came out.
Half the fun is the newness of the apps and what the new system LOOKS like and what it can do.
If the same case dimensions are going to be used in any future iPhone, the screen is going to resize as long as the glass allows it to. 3,5 is probably going to reach 3,7 and the speaker along with the rest of the stuff will be placed bellow the glass. The only problem is the button that could not go any lower or get smaller. Wider is an option though. Cupertino faces other kinds of problems.
a. Glass to screen fit without using glue.
b. Thinner case and glass parts but same rigidity.
c. Better battery technology with the lowest cost possible.
d. Better but Smaller than iPAD CPU-GPU processor.
e. Smaller memory technology.
f. Fast and zero-defect production lines.
This product has to be perfect. The world has been talking about it for almost two years now. Since the iPad's big market impact, and with a share that is climbing, they have to do the impossible. After all this baby belongs to Steve.
when the "new ipad" came out!! you guys should know this!!! the new iPhone 5 will have a bigger battery! how do I know? Well think new iPad!!! apple implemented LTE rite? But to have the same battery time as the other iPad they needed to double the iPad to have the same battery life as the ipad2,1 so I think it's safe to say apples A5X chip and LTE but for apple to implement that much of a upgrade!!! Then apple will need a bigger battery and to say the least! They prob would have a new design and there's rumors also of the 30 pin connector. it would make since for a smaller connector though, more room for LTE. A5X chip set is small as can be already. I can almost be sure of a bigger battery