iPhone 5 pre-orders LIVE now. Websites, however, are iffy...

iPhone 5 pre-orders have begun! Well, sort of. The Apple Online Store isn't working for everyone, some carrier sites are flakier than others, and in general would-be purchasers might be in for a long night.

If Apple.com fails for you, try the Apple Store app for iPhone. If a carrier website fails... try the Apple Store app for iPhone.

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If you're pre-ordering, let us know what you ordered, when Apple says it's arriving, how smoothly -- or not smoothly -- it went. If you're having trouble and want help, or just want to blow off some steam, jump into our iMore Forums pre-order pajama party!

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