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	<title>Comments on: Round Robin: AT&amp;T Tilt</title>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-39102</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wanted to comment and thank the author, good stuff&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: rob@NextInWireless</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5042</link>
		<dc:creator>rob@NextInWireless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For more, go here: www.NextInWireless.com&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: rob@NextInWireless</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5041</link>
		<dc:creator>rob@NextInWireless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well I&#039;ve been living with the Tilt for a month, and it&#039;s going back tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Things I didn&#039;t like about WM6:
1. You must upgrade at least to Outlook 2002 to be able to sync with your PC
2. Fewer button mapping is available, only 5 verses 12 for WM5 with the Samsung i-730.  This makes it less one-handed friendly
3. They didn&#039;t bother fixing the forced reset when you swap the battery, over WM5.
What is the advantage here?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hardware drawbacks:
1.  Power plug gets in the way if you use the keyboard
2.  Hands-free is a non-standard connector
3.  No included hands free, holster, extra battery&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Application drawbacks:
1.  Camera takes about 5 seconds to take a photo, after you press the button
2.  GPS didn&#039;t work when I needed it; isn&#039;t ready out of the box
3.  Can no longer &quot;recognize&quot; handwriting in Notes (convert to text)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am appreciating my old i-730 much more now.  And I don&#039;t see anything that is really worth buying right now...all have their shortcomings...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I've been living with the Tilt for a month, and it's going back tomorrow.</p>

<p>Things I didn't like about WM6:
1. You must upgrade at least to Outlook 2002 to be able to sync with your PC
2. Fewer button mapping is available, only 5 verses 12 for WM5 with the Samsung i-730.  This makes it less one-handed friendly
3. They didn't bother fixing the forced reset when you swap the battery, over WM5.
What is the advantage here?</p>

<p>Hardware drawbacks:
1.  Power plug gets in the way if you use the keyboard
2.  Hands-free is a non-standard connector
3.  No included hands free, holster, extra battery</p>

<p>Application drawbacks:
1.  Camera takes about 5 seconds to take a photo, after you press the button
2.  GPS didn't work when I needed it; isn't ready out of the box
3.  Can no longer "recognize" handwriting in Notes (convert to text)</p>

<p>I am appreciating my old i-730 much more now.  And I don't see anything that is really worth buying right now...all have their shortcomings...</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Overthrow</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5040</link>
		<dc:creator>Overthrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;Most of that is for the sliding mechanism, not the tilt. The new &lt;a href=&quot;&quot;http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&amp;id=801&quot;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Touch Cruise&lt;/a&gt; for example has no sliding keyboard, but is a similar dimension, but only 3.5 mm thinner. The penalty for the sliding keyboard and Tilt is therefore only 3.5 mm and 60 grams weight.

The &lt;a href=&quot;&quot;http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&amp;id=861&quot;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Tilt &lt;/a&gt;is actually 3 mm thinner than the &lt;a href=&quot;&quot;http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&amp;id=506&quot;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Tytn&lt;/a&gt;, its predecessor, which has a sliding keyboard but no Tilt mechanism. The Cruise, Tilt and Tytn have the same size 1350 battery BTW. And the Cruise has the exact same processor speed, and other features like WIFI and GPS.

I think the main sacrifice associated with the tilt feature is weight, as I assume there is plenty of metal in there to keep the structure sturdy.  I dont think the dimensions suffered appreciably.

Surur&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3.5 mm doesn&#039;t sound like much until you math it -- it&#039;s around 20% less.  The extra weight didn&#039;t bother me at all, actually.  I expect 3G phones laden up with features like 3G, 3MP camera, GPS, wifi, etc to be thicker, but there is a limit to what I&#039;ll gladly put in my pocket.  Driving while trying to get the tilt out as it rings = bad.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>Most of that is for the sliding mechanism, not the tilt. The new <a href=""http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&#038;id=801"" target="_blank">Touch Cruise</a> for example has no sliding keyboard, but is a similar dimension, but only 3.5 mm thinner. The penalty for the sliding keyboard and Tilt is therefore only 3.5 mm and 60 grams weight.

The <a href=""http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&#038;id=861"" target="_blank">Tilt </a>is actually 3 mm thinner than the <a href=""http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&#038;id=506"" target="_blank">Tytn</a>, its predecessor, which has a sliding keyboard but no Tilt mechanism. The Cruise, Tilt and Tytn have the same size 1350 battery BTW. And the Cruise has the exact same processor speed, and other features like WIFI and GPS.

I think the main sacrifice associated with the tilt feature is weight, as I assume there is plenty of metal in there to keep the structure sturdy.  I dont think the dimensions suffered appreciably.

Surur</td></tr></table>

<p>3.5 mm doesn't sound like much until you math it -- it's around 20% less.  The extra weight didn't bother me at all, actually.  I expect 3G phones laden up with features like 3G, 3MP camera, GPS, wifi, etc to be thicker, but there is a limit to what I'll gladly put in my pocket.  Driving while trying to get the tilt out as it rings = bad.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: surur</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5039</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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I think that the Tilt makes a lot of sacrifices to engineer that tilting functionality -- slow processor, mediocre battery life, and thick form factor.  It&#039;s almost too big.  Still usable, of course, but it looks awkward in a pocket.  When you double the surface area and hinges, you add bulk, you have to engineer a safe connecting mechanism, the little ribbon thingy, etc.  They still pack a lot of stuff in -- wifi, gps, etc, but they still made some big sacrifices.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Most of that is for the sliding mechanism, not the tilt. The new &lt;a href=&quot;&quot;http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&amp;id=801&quot;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Touch Cruise&lt;/a&gt; for example has no sliding keyboard, but is a similar dimension, but only 3.5 mm thinner. The penalty for the sliding keyboard and Tilt is therefore only 3.5 mm and 60 grams weight.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;&quot;http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&amp;id=861&quot;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Tilt &lt;/a&gt;is actually 3 mm thinner than the &lt;a href=&quot;&quot;http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&amp;id=506&quot;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Tytn&lt;/a&gt;, its predecessor, which has a sliding keyboard but no Tilt mechanism. The Cruise, Tilt and Tytn have the same size 1350 battery BTW. And the Cruise has the exact same processor speed, and other features like WIFI and GPS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the main sacrifice associated with the tilt feature is weight, as I assume there is plenty of metal in there to keep the structure sturdy.  I dont think the dimensions suffered appreciably.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surur&lt;/p&gt;
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I think that the Tilt makes a lot of sacrifices to engineer that tilting functionality -- slow processor, mediocre battery life, and thick form factor.  It's almost too big.  Still usable, of course, but it looks awkward in a pocket.  When you double the surface area and hinges, you add bulk, you have to engineer a safe connecting mechanism, the little ribbon thingy, etc.  They still pack a lot of stuff in -- wifi, gps, etc, but they still made some big sacrifices.</td></tr></table>

<p>Most of that is for the sliding mechanism, not the tilt. The new <a href=""http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&#038;id=801"" target="_blank">Touch Cruise</a> for example has no sliding keyboard, but is a similar dimension, but only 3.5 mm thinner. The penalty for the sliding keyboard and Tilt is therefore only 3.5 mm and 60 grams weight.</p>

<p>The <a href=""http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&#038;id=861"" target="_blank">Tilt </a>is actually 3 mm thinner than the <a href=""http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&#038;id=506"" target="_blank">Tytn</a>, its predecessor, which has a sliding keyboard but no Tilt mechanism. The Cruise, Tilt and Tytn have the same size 1350 battery BTW. And the Cruise has the exact same processor speed, and other features like WIFI and GPS.</p>

<p>I think the main sacrifice associated with the tilt feature is weight, as I assume there is plenty of metal in there to keep the structure sturdy.  I dont think the dimensions suffered appreciably.</p>

<p>Surur</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Overthrow</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5038</link>
		<dc:creator>Overthrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that some manner of tilting often desirable.  there are cases (if memory serves, the belkin acrylic clear case?) that provide a tilt function for the iPhone.  For desktop use, there&#039;s always the cradle that ships with the iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think that the Tilt makes a lot of sacrifices to engineer that tilting functionality -- slow processor, mediocre battery life, and thick form factor.  It&#039;s almost too big.  Still usable, of course, but it looks awkward in a pocket.  When you double the surface area and hinges, you add bulk, you have to engineer a safe connecting mechanism, the little ribbon thingy, etc.  They still pack a lot of stuff in -- wifi, gps, etc, but they still made some big sacrifices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At any rate, that&#039;s why I think candybar / brick is the way.  I&#039;ll probably see if I can finagle an LG KS20 out of Septimus for a fairer iPhone / WM comparison in the future.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that some manner of tilting often desirable.  there are cases (if memory serves, the belkin acrylic clear case?) that provide a tilt function for the iPhone.  For desktop use, there's always the cradle that ships with the iPhone.</p>

<p>I think that the Tilt makes a lot of sacrifices to engineer that tilting functionality -- slow processor, mediocre battery life, and thick form factor.  It's almost too big.  Still usable, of course, but it looks awkward in a pocket.  When you double the surface area and hinges, you add bulk, you have to engineer a safe connecting mechanism, the little ribbon thingy, etc.  They still pack a lot of stuff in -- wifi, gps, etc, but they still made some big sacrifices.</p>

<p>At any rate, that's why I think candybar / brick is the way.  I'll probably see if I can finagle an LG KS20 out of Septimus for a fairer iPhone / WM comparison in the future.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: surur</title>
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		<dc:creator>surur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The tilt of my Tilt actually makes it useful when I am not actively using it - when I am at my desk.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When plugged in to my laptop to tether, the HTC Home screen makes a good desktop clock, and you can see your push e-mail arrive as it arrives.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/images/HTCP4550_12.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Secondly, when you sync photos (same way you sync music) you can use it as a nice digital photo frame.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, text entry is slightly easier with the screen tilted (but not too far, as it encroaches on the keyboard them).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Finally, it works well as a built-in stand when watching video for example.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I find the Tilt feature desirable and useful.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surur&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>When plugged in to my laptop to tether, the HTC Home screen makes a good desktop clock, and you can see your push e-mail arrive as it arrives.  </p>

<p><img src="http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/images/HTCP4550_12.jpg" border="0"/></p>

<p>Secondly, when you sync photos (same way you sync music) you can use it as a nice digital photo frame.</p>

<p>Also, text entry is slightly easier with the screen tilted (but not too far, as it encroaches on the keyboard them).</p>

<p>Finally, it works well as a built-in stand when watching video for example.</p>

<p>Anyway, I find the Tilt feature desirable and useful.</p>

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		<title>By: Overthrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overthrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;Do you like how the phone actually tilts, or have you messed with the old style sliders and prefer them?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think sliders are kind of a gimmicky form factor.  I tended to use it vertically without sliding, just did the sideways for the emails.  I&#039;m convinced that brick / candybar is the way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With the tilt and slide stuff, I can&#039;t help but think that maybe the device would have better battery life or thinner profile if they didn&#039;t have to do the extra engineering.  ditto with styluses.  ditto with the duplication of keys all over on the tilt.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I viewed this review more as a review of windows mobile than I did of the tilt specifically, though.  I think that&#039;s really the point of the smartphone round robin -- to check out the other platforms and report on that; we&#039;re just doing it through the lens of what&#039;s hopefully that platform&#039;s latest and greatest.  With the possible exception of the Treo 680. :rolleyes: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So any gripes I have about the Tilt&#039;s form factor should be taken with a grain of salt -- there are other windows mobile phones out there with better form factors.  It&#039;s not WM&#039;s fault that I think that sliders are a gimmick doomed to the rubbish bin of time. :D&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>Do you like how the phone actually tilts, or have you messed with the old style sliders and prefer them?</td></tr></table>

<p>I think sliders are kind of a gimmicky form factor.  I tended to use it vertically without sliding, just did the sideways for the emails.  I'm convinced that brick / candybar is the way.</p>

<p>With the tilt and slide stuff, I can't help but think that maybe the device would have better battery life or thinner profile if they didn't have to do the extra engineering.  ditto with styluses.  ditto with the duplication of keys all over on the tilt.</p>

<p>I viewed this review more as a review of windows mobile than I did of the tilt specifically, though.  I think that's really the point of the smartphone round robin -- to check out the other platforms and report on that; we're just doing it through the lens of what's hopefully that platform's latest and greatest.  With the possible exception of the Treo 680. :rolleyes: </p>

<p>So any gripes I have about the Tilt's form factor should be taken with a grain of salt -- there are other windows mobile phones out there with better form factors.  It's not WM's fault that I think that sliders are a gimmick doomed to the rubbish bin of time. <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stig</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I must say this pretty much mirrors my experiences with an HTC TyTN. Big, not that easy to use, and a bit slow. My biggest gripe is not really covered above - it&#039;s not very easy to use as a phone! Dialling a number that isn&#039;t a speed dial or on voice command is a pain - even with two hands!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Bla1ze</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;Too bad AT&amp;T is the devil!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How does that fit in, lol?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Long live unlocked devices.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>Too bad AT&#038;T is the devil!</td></tr></table>

<p>How does that fit in, lol?</p>

<p>Long live unlocked devices.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dreadpiratedoug</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do you like how the phone actually tilts, or have you messed with the old style sliders and prefer them?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: justdigphones</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5032</link>
		<dc:creator>justdigphones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m curious if you ever get &quot;stuck&quot; going back to edge speeds and how the handoff between 2G and 3G is. Thanks for the great articles!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm curious if you ever get "stuck" going back to edge speeds and how the handoff between 2G and 3G is. Thanks for the great articles!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nerdstrap</title>
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		<dc:creator>nerdstrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Too bad AT&amp;T is the devil!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: JGold</title>
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		<dc:creator>JGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bla1ze,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You truly &quot;get it&quot;. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This coming from a 7 year veteran of Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) devices.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bla1ze,</p>

<p>You truly "get it". <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>This coming from a 7 year veteran of Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) devices.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cascade</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5029</link>
		<dc:creator>Cascade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice article!  Can&#039;t wait to see what you think of it after going back to the 680 for a bit.  I&#039;m on the 680 and curious if I should go WM.  Your +/- on it in a short window like this will surely be helpful!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article!  Can't wait to see what you think of it after going back to the 680 for a bit.  I'm on the 680 and curious if I should go WM.  Your +/- on it in a short window like this will surely be helpful!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: gadgetluva</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5028</link>
		<dc:creator>gadgetluva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great article mike. I must say that as a veteran user of WM devices, the whole platform is sluggish a lot of the time. However, I believe that the sluggishness is offset by the power, customizability, and hardware that ships with many of these devices. My current device is also the Tilt, and I haven&#039;t thought much about the Treo 750 at all.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article mike. I must say that as a veteran user of WM devices, the whole platform is sluggish a lot of the time. However, I believe that the sluggishness is offset by the power, customizability, and hardware that ships with many of these devices. My current device is also the Tilt, and I haven't thought much about the Treo 750 at all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: netsyd</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5027</link>
		<dc:creator>netsyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So ... quick question. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Did you happen to have any issues with switching back and forth between Wifi and 3G? Its a frickin nightmare for me. I have to turn on wifi, then go into my mail account options and set it back to &quot;the internet&quot; from &quot;medianet&quot; before it will download email over wifi. If I try to use wifi to browse the web and then leave the house (and disconnect wifi) then I have to close PIE and reopen it  before it will start to use the 3G network. Its ridiculous. My iPhone I switch between wifi and edge without any notice or issues... &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Am I missing something?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So ... quick question. </p>

<p>Did you happen to have any issues with switching back and forth between Wifi and 3G? Its a frickin nightmare for me. I have to turn on wifi, then go into my mail account options and set it back to "the internet" from "medianet" before it will download email over wifi. If I try to use wifi to browse the web and then leave the house (and disconnect wifi) then I have to close PIE and reopen it  before it will start to use the 3G network. Its ridiculous. My iPhone I switch between wifi and edge without any notice or issues... </p>

<p>Am I missing something?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bla1ze</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5026</link>
		<dc:creator>Bla1ze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the complication comes from having so many diff ways to axxs one simple item, WinMob is cluttered and a user of WinMob has to find the &quot;right way&quot; to make the device function for them, once those options are set I think the OS will become easier to maintain and use, but until that happens the devices do feel complicated and awkward, the good thing about WinMob is it&#039;s customization options to remove some of the complication AKA Clutter,Bloat..how ever you wanna refer to it..is a simple process as long as your willing/able to dabble into long lists of .CAB files and such, but my personal perception still prevails here and no matter how many articles/reviews I read about WinMob usage will change that, it&#039;s just not a user friendly OS for the average user, you have to be interested and know what WinMob is and know the potential it actually has to want to purchase these devices, without that knowledge..chances are you&#039;ll be coming to the sad realization that the device you just purchased is way more then what you actually need/understand...in terms of other devices, the iPhone is slick and easy to navigate, the BB devices the same, these devices can be picked up and quickly understood by the average user in a matter of days, where with WinMob, a user could have the device and never end up fully understanding all the functions of it..like I said this is great for those &quot;explorers&quot; and gadget nuts, but average user...naww&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the complication comes from having so many diff ways to axxs one simple item, WinMob is cluttered and a user of WinMob has to find the "right way" to make the device function for them, once those options are set I think the OS will become easier to maintain and use, but until that happens the devices do feel complicated and awkward, the good thing about WinMob is it's customization options to remove some of the complication AKA Clutter,Bloat..how ever you wanna refer to it..is a simple process as long as your willing/able to dabble into long lists of .CAB files and such, but my personal perception still prevails here and no matter how many articles/reviews I read about WinMob usage will change that, it's just not a user friendly OS for the average user, you have to be interested and know what WinMob is and know the potential it actually has to want to purchase these devices, without that knowledge..chances are you'll be coming to the sad realization that the device you just purchased is way more then what you actually need/understand...in terms of other devices, the iPhone is slick and easy to navigate, the BB devices the same, these devices can be picked up and quickly understood by the average user in a matter of days, where with WinMob, a user could have the device and never end up fully understanding all the functions of it..like I said this is great for those "explorers" and gadget nuts, but average user...naww</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: surur</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5025</link>
		<dc:creator>surur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;
And the Tilt itself seems to add even more complexity, with its plethora of buttons and switches.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is such nonsense, I am starting to doubt the sanity of the people who spew it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So its more complex to open my e-mail app with a clearly labeled e-mail button? Or by browser with the same? Or my phone app?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And arnt most phone users trained in the use of soft keys and menus associated with them for ages?  Isn&#039;t that how every Razr works?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you use nothing but the browser, e-mail and phone you would never need to open up the start menu at all. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe some-one need to explain to me whats so complicated, because I dont get it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surur&lt;/p&gt;
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And the Tilt itself seems to add even more complexity, with its plethora of buttons and switches.</td></tr></table>

<p>This is such nonsense, I am starting to doubt the sanity of the people who spew it.</p>

<p>So its more complex to open my e-mail app with a clearly labeled e-mail button? Or by browser with the same? Or my phone app?</p>

<p>And arnt most phone users trained in the use of soft keys and menus associated with them for ages?  Isn't that how every Razr works?</p>

<p>If you use nothing but the browser, e-mail and phone you would never need to open up the start menu at all. </p>

<p>Maybe some-one need to explain to me whats so complicated, because I dont get it.</p>

<p>Surur</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Doc31</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5024</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;good write up&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: meyerweb</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5023</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I look forward to seeing more comments on usability. I&#039;m still unconvinced the WinMob 6 is any easier to use than previous versions. MS seems to be applying the same business model to WinMob as it does to Windows itself:  each release gets more and more features, requires more and more memory and processor, but does nothing to solve the usability problems that have existed for year after year, version after version.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And the Tilt itself seems to add even more complexity, with its plethora of buttons and switches.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I guess that&#039;s why I&#039;m still a Palm Treo user:  In spite of its age, lack of pre-emptive multi-tasking, and less than glamorous interface, the Palm OS just plain works. It&#039;s simple, straightforward, and gets the most performance from the fewest inputs of any device to date. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The iPhone has potential, but even now there are oddities in the interface which makes some activities harder than they need to bem, especially when switching between apps. I wonder how well the interface will hold up with 50 or more 3rd party apps loaded, each with it&#039;s own interpretation of the &quot;standard.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to seeing more comments on usability. I'm still unconvinced the WinMob 6 is any easier to use than previous versions. MS seems to be applying the same business model to WinMob as it does to Windows itself:  each release gets more and more features, requires more and more memory and processor, but does nothing to solve the usability problems that have existed for year after year, version after version.</p>

<p>And the Tilt itself seems to add even more complexity, with its plethora of buttons and switches.</p>

<p>I guess that's why I'm still a Palm Treo user:  In spite of its age, lack of pre-emptive multi-tasking, and less than glamorous interface, the Palm OS just plain works. It's simple, straightforward, and gets the most performance from the fewest inputs of any device to date. </p>

<p>The iPhone has potential, but even now there are oddities in the interface which makes some activities harder than they need to bem, especially when switching between apps. I wonder how well the interface will hold up with 50 or more 3rd party apps loaded, each with it's own interpretation of the "standard."</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pdaluver</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5022</link>
		<dc:creator>pdaluver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great article Mike! I look forward to reading your final thoughts! ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Mike! I look forward to reading your final thoughts! <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: surur</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5021</link>
		<dc:creator>surur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It seems to me all these round robins are more about the Out of Box experience than the eventual user experience.  I get most newbies never customize their devices, but WM users are much more pro-active in general. Didn&#039;t Palm say recently 80+% of their users use 3rd party apps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know iPhone users are superficial, so maybe the first thing to change is the theme? I was shocked to see kevinBerry was still using the very plain default one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are some nice ones here, and a cab to make it all glossy black
&lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1403151&amp;postcount=828&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1403151&amp;postcount=828&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You would also want to install HTC Album, which is their own image viewer.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rapidshare.com/files/65505054/HTC__Album_mui_0409.cab&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rapidshare.com/files/65505054/HTC__Album&lt;em&gt;mui&lt;/em&gt;0409.cab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, if you hold down the phone end key it locks the phone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surur&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me all these round robins are more about the Out of Box experience than the eventual user experience.  I get most newbies never customize their devices, but WM users are much more pro-active in general. Didn't Palm say recently 80+% of their users use 3rd party apps.</p>

<p>I know iPhone users are superficial, so maybe the first thing to change is the theme? I was shocked to see kevinBerry was still using the very plain default one.</p>

<p>There are some nice ones here, and a cab to make it all glossy black
<a href="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1403151&#038;postcount=828" target="_blank">http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1403151&#038;postcount=828</a></p>

<p>You would also want to install HTC Album, which is their own image viewer.
<a href="http://rapidshare.com/files/65505054/HTC__Album_mui_0409.cab" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://rapidshare.com/files/65505054/HTC__Album" rel="nofollow">http://rapidshare.com/files/65505054/HTC__Album</a><em>mui</em>0409.cab</p>

<p>BTW, if you hold down the phone end key it locks the phone.</p>

<p>Surur</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: surur</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5020</link>
		<dc:creator>surur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The two software keyboards of the moment are Touchpal and PCMKeyboard.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cootek.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.cootek.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surur&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two software keyboards of the moment are Touchpal and PCMKeyboard.
<a href="http://www.cootek.com/" target="_blank">http://www.cootek.com/</a>
<a href="http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php" target="_blank">http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php</a></p>

<p>Surur</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: CrackBerry Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/07/round-robin-att-tilt/comment-page-1/#comment-5019</link>
		<dc:creator>CrackBerry Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great Article Mike!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Touched on a lot of things I didn&#039;t talk about...like YES..the multitasking capability is awesome. One of those things that makes it more like a mini-computer when using it vs. a smartphone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And just realized something...I&#039;m pretty sure I kept WiFi on the entire time I had the phone in my possession. Wouldn&#039;t everyone?! I&#039;m guessing that will be the reason the battery needed a mid-afternoon recharge. I haven&#039;t had the pleasure of using a WiFi BlackBerry yet (8820 or 8320)...not sure how badly the battery gets sapped when WiFi is turned on those.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Looking forward to your next article!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article Mike!</p>

<p>Touched on a lot of things I didn't talk about...like YES..the multitasking capability is awesome. One of those things that makes it more like a mini-computer when using it vs. a smartphone.</p>

<p>And just realized something...I'm pretty sure I kept WiFi on the entire time I had the phone in my possession. Wouldn't everyone?! I'm guessing that will be the reason the battery needed a mid-afternoon recharge. I haven't had the pleasure of using a WiFi BlackBerry yet (8820 or 8320)...not sure how badly the battery gets sapped when WiFi is turned on those.</p>

<p>Looking forward to your next article!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nitido357</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;now, by soft keyboard, do you mean something similar to the Iphone&#039;s? or something smaller?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Dieter Bohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dieter Bohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s make it an &lt;strong&gt;Official Round Robin Contest Thread&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Excellent article, IMO, well worth the read.  There are indeed plenty of decent soft-keyboards out there.  I&#039;ll let others chime in with their favorites to see if anybody can pick the right one. ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's make it an <strong>Official Round Robin Contest Thread</strong>.</p>

<p>Excellent article, IMO, well worth the read.  There are indeed plenty of decent soft-keyboards out there.  I'll let others chime in with their favorites to see if anybody can pick the right one. <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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