FFS, Facebook is abusing 2FA... again

I get it. With all the abuses being discovered about Facebook, week after week, sometimes day after day or even hour after hour, it's hard to be surprised any more, much less outraged. But, those continued abuses remain and must remain outrageous.

From Fast Company:

On the surface, Facebook prompting people to enable 2FA was a good thing–if you have 2FA enabled it's much harder for someone who isn't you to log in to your account. But this being Facebook, they're not just going to do something that is only good for the user, are they?Last year it came to light that Facebook was using the phone numbers people submitted to the company solely so they could protect their accounts with 2FA for targeted advertising. And now, as security researcher and New York Times columnist Zeynep Tufekci pointed out, Facebook is allowing anyone to look up a user by their phone number, the same phone number that was supposed to be for security purposes only.

Convinced a friend to turn on Google 2-factor authentication this weekend. Now they read Facebook is abusing the phone numbers collected through its 2FA, and my friend no longer trusts anyone.

Facebook doesn't just damage itself, it damages trust in technology.

Rene Ritchie

Rene Ritchie is one of the most respected Apple analysts in the business, reaching a combined audience of over 40 million readers a month. His YouTube channel, Vector, has over 90 thousand subscribers and 14 million views and his podcasts, including Debug, have been downloaded over 20 million times. He also regularly co-hosts MacBreak Weekly for the TWiT network and co-hosted CES Live! and Talk Mobile. Based in Montreal, Rene is a former director of product marketing, web developer, and graphic designer. He's authored several books and appeared on numerous television and radio segments to discuss Apple and the technology industry. When not working, he likes to cook, grapple, and spend time with his friends and family.

  • You can't trust them. Period. They are now worse than MySpace ever was.
  • El oh el. More fud from Rene. You never quit do you?
  • Your precious Apple is NO BETTER there Rene!!!! Here is a little ditty stating the truth. The one company curiously absent from this article is the one apple lemmings rag on the most. GOOGLE! https://mspoweruser.com/no-place-is-safe-microsoft-apple-facebook-twitte... I am guessing that apple is coming out with their own facebook type site soon, so Rene is on the promo train!
  • Apple is definitely better than Facebook. "No better" implies that they're at the same level, and whilst Apple is still abusing people's data, it's nowhere near at the scale of Facebook.
  • And true to form Rene rushes in to defend Apple at all costs. They ARE at the same level. Abuse is abuse no matter what. The scale of which they're doing it is irrelevant. You don't tell a recently battered woman that her abuse is less than a woman who's been beaten up for years simply because "it's not at the same scale". Stop trying to minimalize Apple's abuse while simultaneously trumpeting Facebook's.
  • Are you really comparing computer software to violence? If one antivirus software works better than the other software, it's better. Things can work at different levels, your comparison was completely irrelevant.
  • That completely went over your head didn't it Rene? You honestly think I was comparing software to violence? el oh el. No I was comparing your (as usual) weak attempt to diminish Apple's abuses to those of Facebook. The scale & the frequency of the abuse doesn't matter. It's the fact that BOTH companies are abusing the customer that is the issue. Get it now?
  • I wasn't diminishing Apple's abuses at all. kojackjku said:
    "Your precious Apple is NO BETTER there" When in actual fact, they are better. But both of them are, ultimately, still in the wrong, obviously. I think my initial response to kojackjku went over your head, otherwise you would've understood why I responded with what I did.
  • Here he comes to save Rene!!!!, Underdanny is here once again to wipe out any naysayers to the beloved Rene and Apple. NO MATTER WHAT THE COST! NO they are NOT any better. They just cloak their shadiness in marketing and you obviously lap it up!
  • You can clearly see that throughout iOS, Apple make efforts to protect user's privacy, e.g. Siri does most of it's work on the device, rather than in the cloud. But that doesn't mean Apple is in the clear, and like the rest, they still have work to do.
  • Again, apple reality distortion field!
  • Not really, given I've already accepted that Apple still have work to do. But far less work than the rest.
  • No, You have your apple blinders on.
  • The proof is in the pudding, look at iOS/macOS, Apple's dedicated privacy page, AI on the device rather than calculated in the Cloud, built-in password manager in iCloud KeyChain generating strong passwords, Safari's dedicated settings section for privacy, Face ID being the strongest form of non-password authentication. The only person with the blinders is you.
  • Smoke and mirrors dummy! Apple WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE they are better. You take the bait hook, line and sinker.
  • You're just a conspiracy theorist like the rest. I can present you with hard facts and you'll just say "but what if", like the people trying to prove UFOs exist or that the world is flat.
  • HA HA AH over the cliff Lemming! I provided proof in other threads, with links to trusted news sources stating apple is up to shenanigans like the rest. it's you and CRAZED fanboys like you who choose to go but whatabout. You are given proof, but the reality distortion field and kool aid have you blind. you are the funniest. lemming. EDIT: it's actually THIS article that I linked. maybe take off the apple blinders and read sometime. You might learn something...I doubt it though.
  • The proof is in the pudding, like I said. Apple aren't perfect, but they're better than the competition. That's FACT
  • Drink up the kool aid fanboy
  • If I'm drinking kool-aid, god only knows what you're on
  • Wow, I apparently did not read the same article you did. What does Transparency issues even mean? All this article states is that they are under scrutiny which means nothing, the DPC would not be doing its job if it wasn't putting the largest corps under scrutiny.
    You know they put Apple's name in every article - they have to find a way - because it is the biggest click-bait subject in the tech world. Nobody read these articles anymore when Google and Fb are mentioned because they are major offenders; now they add Apple's name so people like you read it. That's how click-baiting works.
  • It's fear, sure. But not uncertainty or doubt.
  • Just call it Spybook instead of Facebook.
  • And using it on their spypple phones and devices!
  • And Spy Android, and Spy Windows, most companies are guilty of it
  • Yes. But you claim apple is not. Can't have it both ways. All of them do it. The amount they do is irrelevant.
  • I have never claimed Apple is not, I don't know why some of you on here put words into my mouth.
  • Because you bang the apple is the ONLY company that cares about privacy. BTW, You have repeated said apple is not stealing your data. You are blinded by the Kool Aid fanlemming.
  • I've said that Apple collects much less data than the rest. They're not the only company that cares about improving privacy, but they're certainly one of very few
  • And most people won't care and they will let it slide just like everything else. Facebook is for kids lol.
  • People let it slide because their friends are on there, and many people just generally don't care as much about their privacy online
  • So Facebook is letting users search for you by using your mobile number. Uncomfortable, yes. Abuse? No. Abuse is iMore always hounding me to disable my ad blocker. Oh wait, iMore is trying to generate revenue through ads, right? :-)
  • The hypocracy is mind numbing hey Lee?
  • Yet another article drops from the main page as soon as someone posts FACTS about apple being just a bad with your data as the others the lemmings complain about. RUH ROH!!!!! https://mspoweruser.com/survey-finds-microsoft-more-trusted-than-google-...