iMore show 499: Cancerous GovOS

Apple Pencil (2nd generation)
Apple Pencil (2nd generation) (Image credit: iMore)

On this episode Georgia reacts to Facebook and analyzes Tim Cook's body language, Daniel sums up MWC and pencil-gesture-gate, and Rene talks iPad rumors and FBI vs. Apple. Plus our podcast mics and your questions answered!

Note: We're still having issues with Google Hangouts dropping video and not syncing audio, so no video again this week. We're looking into alternatives, though, and hope to have it back soon!

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Rene Ritchie

Rene Ritchie is one of the most respected Apple analysts in the business, reaching a combined audience of over 40 million readers a month. His YouTube channel, Vector, has over 90 thousand subscribers and 14 million views and his podcasts, including Debug, have been downloaded over 20 million times. He also regularly co-hosts MacBreak Weekly for the TWiT network and co-hosted CES Live! and Talk Mobile. Based in Montreal, Rene is a former director of product marketing, web developer, and graphic designer. He's authored several books and appeared on numerous television and radio segments to discuss Apple and the technology industry. When not working, he likes to cook, grapple, and spend time with his friends and family.

  • looks Interesting. There is an app also. Not sure if this work better than others. So many bugs in hangouts. Sent from the iMore App
  • I accept your Canadian apologies Rene! ;)
    Looking forward to the new video format :)
    Get rid of Google hangout! It's been awfull for a few months already. Cheers my Canadian friend :)
  • In her amateurish psychoanalysis, Georgia has repeatedly stated that the government is using fear tactics when they chose the San Bernardino attack as the case to push Apple for assistance, and blathers on about our biological reactions to this. Hey guys, have you looked at the title of this podcast episode? “Cancerous GovOS”. Cook said something similar in his recent interview when he says their assistance would be “the equivalent of cancer”. Cancer is one of the worse diseases in the history of man, and results in death to many who contract it. Pretty bad set of diseases. Very scary to those who get it, no? Since Georgia apparently knows so much about the biology of fear reactions, I want her to psychoanalyze and explain how iMore’s and Apple’s use of “cancer” is not a fear tactic, deliberately designed to elicit an fearful emotional response from the audience. As I see it, explicitly stating that any cooperation by Apple with the government is “cancerous” is arguably worse than anything the government said or implied about this case. As I’ve said elsewhere, Rene & Co. know nothing about the law. They only talk about the tech and how people “don’t see the larger issues of security”. No, we do see it Rene. It’s you guys who don’t understand how the law works and what protections it already provides to all users of the iPhone, and the very limited nature of the government requests. Commenting on legal matters that you know nothing about makes you all look like idiots.
  • Especially a Canadian who doesn't fall under our laws...and isn't a lawyer Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • What do you expect from a site that ties a contest to win a free product into their political stance to drive hits?
  • I love the level of raw emotions in this comment, I can see you feel very passionately and so I can understand your level of name calling. Realize when you debase yourself to name calling that it undercuts your own argument and most people will dismiss it, which I won't as it is such an important subject to discuss and your arguments were sound. That being said, yes Tim Cook also used emotional arguments in his interview (to invigorate those to understand what is at stake and help motivate people to action). I believe I mentioned this and stated it was a smart countermove. If you listened I said that he felt really passionately about this subject and I noticed it was hard for him to control his micro expressions. The cancer and protecting your children (which I mentioned in podcast) were two of a few uses of this. The point though was that the Gov was using this attack (as now we have found emails as proof) to increase their powers. Which is very important to realize and be aware of so that you can make a reasoned response in which privacy protections we are willing to give up in the guise/reality of protection. Btw I literally am a psychotherapist who specializes in anxiety and fear reactions ;)
  • "explicitly stating that any cooperation by Apple with the government is “cancerous” " That was never said by anyone. In fact, Apple has stated they have been working with the FBI on this case and even handed over a backup of the iPhone from their iCloud server. Tim Cook's use of cancer was in fact a great analogy, in that cancer is dangerous because it spreads and destroys. Tim wasn't referring to cooperation as cancerous, he was referring to the piece of software that the FBI wants them to write... A piece of dangerous software that could eventually spread to more than just the "one device" which would destroy the security and privacy of every iOS user.
  • Hey Rene guess what....if you don't like it you are free to move back to Cananda! We won't stop you either! Please take Justin Bieber back with you too. K, thanks. Posted from my Nexus 6P
  • So glad to hear that the pencil navigation will stay. I was seriously thinking of skipping 9.3 on my iPad Pro even though I really want passcode locking of Notes files.
  • Just a thought......... With all the talk about whether Tim Cook is a worthy replacement of Steve Jobs, the thought comes to mind about how Steve would have handled the current FBI situation. My personal opinion is we and Apple are better off with the manner in which Tim has approached the problem. Kudos to Mr. Cook. Strength and resolve work better than explosions. Will he be successful? Who knows but I have hope.
  • Steve Jobs would of given the FBI the middle finger faster than Mr. Cook did(in my opinion).
  • Not clear what kind of data analysis Facebook is gathering with the additional emoji. The only non-ambiguous choice would have been the one they didn't give us: "Don't Like."
  • I use f.lux on my Mac, and I've noticed that, at night. After all the iOS Night Shift discussion, I noticed my MBP's keyboard (MacBookPro10,2) looks rather blue at night. Is the intensity/spectrum of the backlighting sufficient to be disruptive? If so, do you recommend turning it off? Do you have any speculation that Apple will change their keyboard backlighting in the future? Alex Lindsay mentioned on MBW as an alternative way to capture video. I prefer the video to audio-only podcast, but will continue to subscribe either way.
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