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HTC One M9: Can it compete with the iPhone 6?

That means a lot of people are going to be comparing them and wondering which to go home with. As luck would have it, Phil Nickinson and the team at Android Central have just posted their complete HTC One M9 review. Both have great build-quality, great screen quality, and more. But they also have a lot of differences, including the differences between Android and iOS. If you're a longtime HTC owner, the One M9 might just be enough to keep you. If not, it might give you reason to switch to iPhone. Either way, here's what you need to know!

HTC One M9

I have to admit, I've always had a soft-spot for HTC. I loved my Treo Pro back in the day, and have always preferred HTC's hardware to Samsung's. I've really been cheering for them for the past few years, and while they done some gutsy stuff, it hasn't really clicked with the market. While my heart hopes the third One is the charm, it sounds like it's really just as many steps back and forward.

The HTC One M7 was the company's best phone. The M8 also was its best phone. Both had flaws. The M9 does as well. The question we have to ask ourselves year after year is about the sum of the parts. The M9 is mostly familiar, both in form and function. But HTC still has some serious work to do in the camera department. It's perhaps a little overdramatic to say that it's an anchor pulling the ship down, but it's definitely an oar stuck in the water. And with all the advances from its competitors over the past we've just about reached that point in which it's extremely difficult to overlook that compromise.

So if you already like the HTC One, there's more to like, but probably not enough to make you switch.

iPhone 6

Unless you dislike Apple or really need to run Android, I still firmly believe the iPhone 6 should be the go-to phone for most people, most of the time. It's got a great — and newly enlarged — screen, excellent camera, high-quality apps, features like Apple Pay and compatibility with the Apple Watch, not to mention Apple's increased focus on privacy and security and all the potential benefits that come with it.

Yes, there's also a second generation 64-bit processor and motion coprocessor, improved cameras, and faster cellular and Wi-Fi networking. But none of that power matters as much as the empowerment the new iPhone has to offer.With the iPhone 6 — and the simultaneously released iPhone 6 Plus and iOS 8 — Apple hasn't just made the iPhone bigger and better, they've made it something more capable and more accessible.

So if you were hoping for more or for different from HTC, you might well want to consider giving the iPhone 6 a try.

Rene Ritchie
Rene Ritchie

Rene Ritchie is one of the most respected Apple analysts in the business, reaching a combined audience of over 40 million readers a month. His YouTube channel, Vector, has over 90 thousand subscribers and 14 million views and his podcasts, including Debug, have been downloaded over 20 million times. He also regularly co-hosts MacBreak Weekly for the TWiT network and co-hosted CES Live! and Talk Mobile. Based in Montreal, Rene is a former director of product marketing, web developer, and graphic designer. He's authored several books and appeared on numerous television and radio segments to discuss Apple and the technology industry. When not working, he likes to cook, grapple, and spend time with his friends and family.

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  • I use an iPad and an M8 for work, however; I opted for a Note 4 for personal use. To me it's the best of both worlds. I'm glad I didn't wait for the M9 when it came to purchasing my personal device because it is just not what it should be considering it's the third generation. There's just too many compromises when it comes to purchasing a well rounded device these days. This market segment is mature enough it really shouldn't be that way anymore. Sometime I've even thought that manufacturers purposely keep from making the most potent device possible in order to offer a "new and improved" version next time. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • »_« this did not say anything new or really compare the two phones. Just said "pick iPhone cuz I said so" Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • I linked to Phil's M9 review, and my iPhone 6 review. I would have done more, but honestly it didn't seem like much changed since the M8, camera aside, so this seemed like the classiest way to link to it.
  • Well, who could blame anyone that feels like they "really need to run android ?" Afterall, it is the far more functional and versitile platform of the two. The capability that android offers remains unmatched.
  • If it works for you, yay!
  • Thank you Rene !!!
  • I agree with Rene here. Even Rene loves Apple, but he did good and didn't overly on Apple side. :)
  • I thought this review was so 'simple' compared to other comparison reviews I've seen for the m9. I agree with metacuate.
  • I guess you missed the point. The review was made to be simple. That's why Rene provided a link to the full review. Sent from the iMore App
  • I wish I would have held off on upgrading from my old One. I'll probably go back to HTC when my contract is up. Sent from the iMore App
  • Might want to read some of the reviews. Namely AnandTech's Sent from my Galaxy S4 running SlimLP 5.0.2
  • My guess is that by the time my contract runs out, there will be a newer model that would address the camera issue. Sent from the iMore App
  • New model of the M9? Sent from my Galaxy S4 running SlimLP 5.0.2
  • They have had three chances to address the camera. Three strikes. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • How is there only 3? They didn't start with the HTC One A1? Haha
    But seriously, How did we get to the One M9 since that first android phone? Whatever it's model number was. Sent from the iMore App
  • I would personally go with the iPhone 6 because its definitely iPhone! I love everything about it - specs, technical details, performance, features and appeal. https://www.imore.com/e?link=https2F2Flinks%2F1...
  • I especially love the huge bezels.
  • I don't know if it's cognitive dissonance or whatever, but every time the guy in the M9 video pointed out something he thought was cool, I saw something that was awkward. Every time he went on about it's looks, all I could think of was how ugly it was. The colours are absolutely garish and way over-saturated IMO. I don't know what he's talking about when he talks about the case design also. I almost bought an M7 because I thought they looked pretty nice, much better than this one. That "lip" he kept going on about is just plain gross.
  • I don't mind the looks. I've always liked HTC's hardware, though. The interface and camera just make me a little sad. I really, really want some hardcore competition for Apple. It makes everyone better.
  • But you already have that. You know, with the Galaxy S6 that is essentially vastly superior to the hardware of the iphone 6?? Lol. The note 4 ain't too bad either.....Samsung's flagships have been downright stunning the last 6 months
  • Because it's easier to root for the (6-feet) underdog. Makes you look good and fair, takes away some of that bias (if any). Given their market share and the relative anonymity surrounding the release of this phone, do you really think the competition is gonna come from HTC? no chance. Not this year, maybe not the next, maybe not ever again. If there is actual competition, it'll come from players he looks down on (and not just Samsung). But hey, it's all just talk and points of view. Market will speak, and the iPhone is set to dominate 2015, Galaxy S6 or not. Rene must be onto smth, cause the iPhone is increasing its user base (if that was possible). Im gonna change my 5s at the end of the year, so Im just pleased Samsung released an impressive phone, it'll give me smth to compare the 6s to :)
  • M9+ <----
  • I wouldn't exactly call it garish, but Android's Material Design is definitely on the loud side of UI design. When it works, it really does work well - see the new Pocket Casts Android app - but other times it can feel a bit overdone or tacky. Not sure how much of that HTC has incorporated in it's own UI skin though. Kind of ironic to me, because prior to iOS 7 I always found iOS to be the more crass UI with those tacky bevelled buttons/scrollbars (I called it the Gumby look), fabric textures and inconsistencies all round. Glad that's gone now. Even if we still have a few usability issues here and there, at least we don't have a notepad that looks like used toilet paper anymore.
  • IPhone 6 price is really high. It should compare with HTC M8 not M9.
  • It's only $50 more Sent from my Galaxy S4 running SlimLP 5.0.2
  • In india there is too much difference in the price...
  • Wow what an amazing comparison.. In depth and precise :) :( Posted via the iMore App
  • I see Rene's deleting messages again. What a douche. Sent from the iMore App
  • You must have given him a reason, if indeed he did that.
  • Not just me. I can count 4 comments he deleted. Just because people were calling him out on blatant bias. No profanity, no name calling. He does it often. This will be gone soon. Watch. Sent from the iMore App
  • Ya, his bias can certainly go too far. I had to laugh when I saw that he was even getting butchered by Apple fans in the comments section of the hilarious Galaxy S6 article he wrote a couple weeks back. That outta tell you something, right?? Lol
  • The comments aren't your house. You don't get to behave any way you want here. I try not to ban people because I believe people can grow to become positive contributors. Hopefully you'll stop discussing people and start discussing the subject. If you have an opinion to share, please share it. If you want to call me or anyone else a "douche", you won't be posting here or on Mobile Nations much longer. We clear?
  • Well stated.
  • You could have left the original statement, without the extra editing of yourself. It was COMPLETELY appropriate for the situation! Sent from the iMore App
  • My bad... Comment for another articles discussion. I tapped when I should have swiped! Sent from the iMore App
  • Yes, I will stop. I will just stop reading your articles. It's really hard to read them and not have a visceral reaction. Good luck to you. Sent from the iMore App
  • I love that people always use the word bias when someone doesn't agree with their opinion. Everyone in the world is biased it's human nature. Anyone who tells you that they aren't biased because they use every X,Y,Z is just deluded. Add to that the typical egocentric nature of the world today where everyone seems to think their thoughts, opinions, feelings are facts. "If I like Android it's the only mobile OS worth liking and anyone who likes something else is an idiot". Hmpff
  • Btw - I went in to edit my comment to remove the second part of my initial comment. The app for iMore currently lacks that function. It would be nice to see that added. Sent from the iMore App
  • Thanks Rene,
    I personally have been getting extremely annoyed by the constant barrage of negative comments being posted. This is an Apple Centric Blog, by definition it should be slightly bias to Apple products. If you're not interested in Apple products and you're constantly posting negative comments then you are nothing more than a troll. Many of us commenters just want to have a healthy conversation about the articles. I don't always agree with Rene or the other authors but that's why people come in so many different flavors. Please stop hijacking the forums and go find another bridge to crawl under trolls. Sent from the iMore App
  • Amen!
  • Erm.. Rene, you are kinda biased. Please just PLEASE! Don't make biased post, that's all we ask. As for the douche comment, I do agree that was uncalled for.
  • Protip #389: Don't go to a blog that specializes in something and expect an entirely unbiased opinion
  • I was also expecting a comparison chart or something like some people lol but thanks for the links provided.
  • After reading Phil's review, the Anandtech review, and a few others, this seemed like the classiest way to go. I like HTC and I want to see them succeed. We need more options.
  • I don't they have the money they need to really compete from a camera stand point. Most their money is gone. The ultra pixel camera was a great idea but started loosing money and couldn't pay to upgrade it the next year. It started out 4 mp with really large 2 um pixels which lets more light in for when you're low on light and never transition ed to 6 mp the next and then to 8 mp the year after that. They also dropped OIS which was a bad idea. They essentially introduced this when they were selling well and making money and then the next year they started having big declines in profit. If HTC had the money I have no doubt they might have evolved the ultra pixel to 8 mp with Pixel size 2 um. The iphone 6 is at 1.5 um pixels which means it lets less light in than a 2 um would. It's a shame because HTC has a almost perfect phone minus the camera.
  • HTC makes great phones... but that camera ... dear Lord it's really bad. And sad to see that they still couldn't fix it in M9 as its the third iteration of its One M series. If they can't fix it in 3 years; then it's HTC to blame. Samsung did lot of things right with S6 and S6 Edge and sadly 2015 will also belong to Samsung in the Androidsphere. Sent from the iMore App
  • What kind of article is this?? Lol. It's called a versus article of the m9 and the iPhone 6...but instead of giving an actual comparison it links you to an android central hands on video and concludes with "I think the iPhone 6 is the best phone so get that one". Of course you think that. It's an iPhone site! Lol. This was such a pointless article. You could have just as easily said "HTC released a new phone. Head over to AndroidCentral for more information."
  • That's basically what I did, but I gave people the ability to read more about the iPhone 6 as well. I'm not sure what an in-depth comparison would do for the M9 other than re-iterate that they should have made different choices when it came to camera, and maybe screen and processor as well? I'm a little bummed out.
  • Very true. It's even more dissappointing since Samsung came out guns blazing with beautiful and insanely powerful hardware in the Galaxy S6. The S6's build, processing package, display, camera, UFS 2.0 internal storage, etc....... game over
  • Lol!
  • It's all about the $$$$ Lebowski! They don't have the money to custom make their own camera tech. There is also processing software on phone that can be improved if you have money to pay the royalties to companies who have ip. This can make that aspect of the photos better. HTC is screwed. I don't see them ever having the money to or software around camera to take on Samsung, Sony, and Apple. I'm sure Sony and Samsung have their own patents for camera tech and software processing since they produce real cameras so even in hard times their cameras would be better the HTC.
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  • This phone sounds so cool i would love to have it
  • This phone sounds so cool i would love to have one!!!!! Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • I think it looks good.. HTC (along with Sony) have been making some nice looking handsets these past couple of years, imho. Never been a big fan of HTC's Sense UI skin though. Then again, I don't think any OEM skin is that good anyway. I have an acquaintance who uses HTC M8 Google Play Edition which has stock Android rather than Sense, and he seemed pretty happy with it last time we spoke.
  • Rene: Seriously. You do not actually want REAL competition. If you did, you would pick one of the SEVERAL Android OEMs that actually has - or may gain in the future - the ability to compete with Apple on some level. Or at the very least, you would pick a company whose phones you will actually see in the wild being used by living, breathing people (if not in America at least overseas). But no, you did not, because what you want is not legitimate competition, but a token or a pet. So if you want to convince someone that you actually want true choice and competition among smartphones, pick someone for whom 15 million units in sales and $60 million in profits wouldn't be considered "a good year." You can claim to "have a soft spot" for HTC because they were one of the MANY companies to make good devices before the iPhone, but you can't claim to respect them, can you? Why? Because respect is only shared amongst those that are equals (at least in some respect) even though you may claim otherwise. How can we tell the difference? Simple: we all know that Apple didn't start making 4.7 and 5.5 inch phones (after years of saying that they wouldn't) and won't be introducing a 12.2 inch tablet with a stylus (after years of saying that they wouldn't) because of HTC. We all know that HTC wasn't the reason why Apple iOS 8 incorporated a ton of features that were in KitKat and Jellybean. And we all know that HTC isn't the reason why Apple is instituting a "trade-in" program for Android phones (for the first time). We also know that HTC is not one of the Android OEMs that Tim Cook and Jony Ive have recently seen fit to start bashing in the media whenever they get a chance. In other words, Apple made these moves in response to entities that they respect, not one that they hope will hang on just so they can have someone to use to deflect claims of bias. This is the funny thing. Even though I have personally never had a use for any Apple product other than an iPod, I always respected Apple. I generally kept up with Apple's offerings and frequently recommended them to people that I felt would be best served by them, and this was even before Apple came out with the most excellent Mac OS X. And even though I was an early and diehard Microsoft loyalist, after Microsoft came out with Windows 8, I have exclusively recommended Apple (unless that person is very technical, when I urge them to consider Linux). And from what I have seen of Windows 10, it will be even worse for my purposes than was Windows 8, meaning that I am permanently done with that company, and my next PC purchase will also be a Mac (I have even less use for ChromeOS than I do for Windows 8). But hey, I am someone who actually does respect Apple and its products instead of someone who merely claims to.
  • Very well stated.
  • I'm not an Android person at all. I used it long ago as a test for a month and I've never used it again. I don't keep up to date on Android but do Android users complain about the interface? Looking at the home screen of the Android device pictures looks so dated. I only ask because I'd like to know the comparison to Apple users who are quick to complain about iOS becoming stale.
  • I don't think too many people leave their home screen intact to the default view on Android. Many truly customize their home screen with widgets and different launchers. I rarely see a default home screen. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • See here; http://mycolorscreen.com/
  • Yeah, just because our apps aren't always thrown up there when we download them doesn't me we never change them up and then some. And having multiple launchers installed is even more fun. Completely different feel with the touch of an app. "I'm da Blur boys!" - Me with 1200 ping. Fiber in Nashville? Save me based Google.
  • Worse battery life, screen quality and camera quality than the iPhone 6. I don't see how the M9 favorably compares to the iPhone 6.
  • Battery last through a day but not two. At that point it is pretty much the same in my eyes. Worse screen... 1080p Vs not quite 720P at different screen sizes that make the ppi difference nearly irrelevant, but in terms of brightness I do think the iPhone wins out. Color reproduction is subjective to the person. You're dead on about that camera tho. "I'm da Blur boys!" - Me with 1200 ping. Fiber in Nashville? Save me based Google.
  • The M9 is just lazy just like this naming scheme. And who's idea was it to get rid of that dual camera? That was totally cool
  • M7-M8-M9-(M10 I guess?) iPhone 5-iPhone 5s-iPhone 6/6+-(iPhone 6s/6s+ I guess?) Damn, look at all that variety. "I'm da Blur boys!" - Me with 1200 ping. Fiber in Nashville? Save me based Google.
  • I am currently an iPhone user but did spend a good deal of last year with Android. Though the M9 is ok I would still opt for cleaner version of Android with the Nexus 6. Faster updates, less bloat. Though I have to say that I think Samsung looks like they made some really nice improvements to the S series both in looks and with toning down touch wiz. Still not gonna switch, but I can still appreciate Android as a fine OS. Sent from the iMore App
  • This phone doesn't fancy me whatsoever but every thing isn't for everyone... so, to each his own. Even having no phone at all can compete with having a phone. It's all subjective lol.
  • I would rather buy iPhone 6 plus and it will satisfy me. Sent from the iMore App
  • I've said similar things in other threads but let me run the risk of sounding like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth: I'm a serious fan of MacOS. It's what I use for my main computer. While I don't LOVE iOS, neither do I hate it, or even dislike it for that matter. There are manifold things I like about it, and even some things that seriously commend it. I've also had an iPhone5, and had a relatively positive experience. There are so many things that are bad about the Android and Windows ecosystems/experiences that you get to avoid with iOS. The rampant (and early) bugginess on Android devices. The wait forever and ever and ever for highly butchered and "bloatware'd" updates (I STILL don't have Lollipop on my Sprint Galaxy Note 3, and even when I do finally get it, it'll be as much Touchwiz as Lollipop.) Plus the wild west nature of the play store paired with the ridiculous "let us have access to your sock and underwear drawer" kind of privileges requirements to download stuff. It's no wonder the platform is so buggy! (though to my Note's credit, it survived TOTAL immersion in 4" deep hot soapy water in a non-waterproof case -seemingly completely unscathed.) Sure, Nexus devices rescue you from eternal waits for butchered updates thing, but you still have all the other issues, and besides, none of those handsets are all that inspiring to me. Windows Phone, besides my hearing reports of also having bugginess issues is soooo far behind on apps support, that it may never catch up. First problem: the number of total available apps is only a fraction of the big two. Second problem: something like half of the apps are made by no name 3rd parties just agregating the name brand's services. Third problem: most of the Windows apps, even the official first party ones are usually quite different from the other versions, and that difference is almost never one for the better. Forth problem: even as the total number of apps is still increasing, it seems like there's been quite the exodus of apps from the platform lately. That's something that Windows can ill afford right now. So these are the reasons that my next phone is very likely to be an Apple. And I know that if I do, it'll be a safe, solid, predictable, and basically enjoyable experience... ...now for the potential double speak... ...all that said, I DO NOT WANT my next phone to be Apple. Why? iOS is easily my least favorite of the three major mobile OS platforms. When held in contrast to the other two, I find it dull, boring, and plain (functionally and especially aesthetically - I just like Android, and especially Windows so much better). I also find it to be very locked down and restictive. I also am not blown away by the iPhone handsets themselves. The last time they were cosmetically anything to get excited about was the 4/4s. Now they're just more blah looking versions of the 4, with colossal space mismanagement (the 6+ has a smaller screen than my Note 3, but is bigger overall). Also, Android phones, the fleet as a whole, just totally blow them out of the water in terms of unique and avant garde features...all for a lot less money! iPhones strike me as Gucci designer straight jackets - minimalist designer straight jackets! I'm about 15, 16 months away from contract renewal, and new phone time. And I'm actually glad about that. Because if I had to make up my mind today, I'd almost certainly be going back to Apple. And while I'll cheerfully admit that I can think of MUUUUCH worse fates than ending up with a rock solid, Fort Knox secure phone with a perfectly decently enjoyable OS/UI, what I'm still really hoping for is a rescue from that outcome by preferably Windows, but heck, even Android. But in order for Windows to win me (no pun intended), there app situation is gonna have to completely turn around, not just in quantity, but in quality. I'm even okay with 3rd place...just a competitive, very close 3rd. Not the absolute slaughter we have now. With 10 on the horizon, and universal apps...there are still no guarantees...but at least I have real grounds for real hope (fingers crossed). If that fails, all Android would need to do is have a Nexus device that makes me excited (it's gonna have to be a Nexus, I think - for the timeliness and "vanilla" purity of the updates.) I guess they'd also need to shore up stability and safety (both of which would probably be much furthered by a spot o' table overturning in the play store - even if that pushes Android back into 2nd place for total apps, it'd still be worth it). I'm SERIOUSLY hoping that one or both of those things will happen in the next 16 months. Otherwise to repeat verbatim a line I used in other posts: "I'll be one of you - walking around with a piece of fruit in my pocket - when I'm not talking into it, or Facebooking, that is. :-) Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Your problem is that your only Android experience is Nexus and Samsung. There is another whole world out there. For example, Motorola is almost as good as Samsung on hardware, and as for aesthetics and design ... well let us say that Jony Ive went out of his way to criticize them for a reason: their new design prowess is a threat to Apple's long-held advantage in that regard, and they receive updates as quickly as Nexus devices do. Another way to address the updates issue: get a CyanogenMod phone. You can do so and still install all the Google Play services yourself right from their website. "a rock solid, Fort Knox secure phone with a perfectly decently enjoyable OS/UI" Pardon me, but that exists with Lollipop. Funny that you mentioned "Fort Knox" when a version of Samsung's Knox is built into Lollipop. And Android has been "decently enjoyable" for so long that iOS 8 is largely features appropriated from JellyBean and KitKat. And Lollipop is light years better than JellyBean and also superior to KitKat. " I guess they'd also need to shore up stability and safety" I already addressed the safety stuff. As for stability ... excuse me 2012/2013 called and wants its concerns back. For devices with capable specs (i.e. enough RAM and a good CPU) the stability issues were addressed way back in Android 4.3. Also, a lot of the "Android stability issues" were actually due to poorly written apps, especially those that were written by inexperienced developers - who dominated the Android app store in the early days - or were apps written for iOS that were crudely ported to Android by iOS developers who didn't REALLY want to be supporting the platform in the first place because of their low opinion of Android and its users. Now that a lot of the bad developers have either gotten better or given up and the iOS developer snobs have begun to take Android more seriously (due to $7 billion paid out to developers from Google Play alone in 2014, and that does not include other app stores like Amazon) people who still claim that there are stability problems on any Android device other than a very cheap one from a disreputable manufacturer simply isn't being honest. Also, if you fail to be excited by the Nexus 6, well the problem is yours. The only problem with the Nexus 6 is that it can't quite match some of the hardware extras on the Galaxy Note 4, and that it lacks the 64 bit processing of the iPhone 6/6 Plus/5/5s. Yes, the Google Now launcher is a bit spartan, but my goodness, there are plenty of excellent launchers out there to provide a better UI such as the Nokia Z launcher. Look, I am not saying that you should abandon iOS or Windows phones because to each his own. Apple makes excellent, beautiful devices and lots of people that I respect swear by them. I am merely sick of the same outdated and often outright false claims about Android.
  • Hey! Thanks for getting back to me Bill Bates! Especially with such a thorough response! :-) As far as the stability issues being 2012/2013 "tired" arguments, I'd buy that response hook line and sinker if I weren't talking specifically about the very Note 3 I'm typing this on. This thing bugs out on me on a fairly regular basis, up to and including spontaneous reboot during important phone calls, spontaneous hard crashes or lockups on manifold apps, and touch screen response delays of several seconds. Also, my experience with Android is richer than you assume, also including Motorola and HTC. This Note 3 is my 4th smartphone (which were preceded by I don't know how many dumb phones). My third was an iPhone5, yes, but my first two were the original original "Droid" (with the slide out QWERTY) and an HTC Thunderbolt which I eventually gave the less-than-complimentary nickname "Thunderblot". There has been an AMAZING level of consistency across my Android phones in terms of the problems I've had, despite each having different manufacturers, different versions of Android, and different periods of Android development in general. Heck, we're not even looking at the same carrier. My first three smartphones were all on Verizon. This Note is on Sprint. So no, there is a glaring dissonance between your assertions and my present (and past) experiences. Now, is it possible (for the sake of the argument) that the problem is Samsung and not Android, and that if I went "vanilla", I'd have a better time? Possible. But why has Samsung not been given the scarlet letter more loudly if it's such a standout in this way? And why is it that I've had virtually identical experiences between it and my first two phones when the only common denominator is Android? My problem with the Nexus 6 is that the internal storage is smaller than I need, and I can't expand it. I don't really want to rely on the cloud, especially when I have not really been able to rely all that well on Sprint coverage in the firat place. I know, iPhone and S6 also lack sd card slots...but at least they offer models with sufficient internal storage (for a hefty price) So the current Nexus and Droid lines are prohibitive options for me on those grounds. I also have been spoiled by Samsung screens. :-) I will admit I haven't really looked into Cyanogenmod. I would need something I could use on a major US Carrier, something that preferably supports large micro SD cards, or at least has ample internal storage, and I'd want a build and screen quality that puts it in the Samsung/Apple range. I've also thought about rooting my Note and putting vanilla Lollipop on it, but after having a big scare recently with a large body of water, I'm not willing to void my warranty over it, especially when we both know it'll magically end up in the drink yet again, or down 20 flights of steps only to land right in front of a Sherman tank within a few days of doing that. ;-) Just not worth it. And as far as Android having a decent OS/UI experience with Apple stealing ideas from it, you're preaching to the choir there. My problem has never been Android's OS/UI experience (and it's just gotten a crap ton better yet with Lollipop). My whole point of that was to actually say that all things being equal I like Android quite a bit better than iOS. Android phones when they're new are so much better than iPhones....they just don't stay that way, in my experience, while Apple phones....do (my year with the iPhone was exponentially less buggy, and my wife had a 4 for almost 3 years and it stayed rock solid the entire time.) Anyway, like I said, I really appreciate the thorough reply, bro! Absolutely! But ultimately, it didn't do much to move me from where I was I think I'm stuck where I was before your reply, with the exception that I'll have to give Cyanogenmod a closer look. Thanks for the pointer there. :-) Hopefully there will be a Nexus/Droid for me by Jul 2016. And even more hopefully (though perhaps even less likely) Windows will "be ready for me" by the time I'm ready for it... ...otherwise...it's the fruit. :-) Cheers! Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Hey man. Sorry for going off on you like that. I just get frustrated at folks - not just anonymous commenters on blogs but actual paid members of the tech media who write for major magazines and tech blogs - who talk about issues with Android that have been addressed years ago or compare an old or low range Android device with a brand new iPad or iPhone. "I'd buy that response hook line and sinker if I weren't talking specifically about the very Note 3 I'm typing this on. This thing bugs out on me on a fairly regular basis, up to and including spontaneous reboot during important phone calls, spontaneous hard crashes or lockups on manifold apps, and touch screen response delays of several seconds." Android fans call it "LagWiz" and other monikers for a reason. Motorola specifically began promoting their "pure Android experience" aimed directly at frustrated Samsung buyers, and saw large sales increases because of it. I myself got rid of my laggy (although part of it was due to the mediocre CPU and RAM) Galaxy Mega in favor of a Nexus 6 because of it. Yeah, the early Android devices were problematic. Some of it was the hardware, some of it was the OS. I have a Motorola XOOM that used to lag and crash all the time. Upgrading from Honeycomb to Jellybean 4.1 fixed a lot of the problems, but after that the device got no more updates due to its outdated architecture. I am still going back and forth over whether to put CyanogenMod on it. But the hardware and the software have really come on the past 3 years - and especially the last 2 - and even some of the notorious Android bashers in the tech media have come around. "So no, there is a glaring dissonance between your assertions and my present (and past) experiences. Now, is it possible (for the sake of the argument) that the problem is Samsung and not Android, and that if I went "vanilla", I'd have a better time? Possible. But why has Samsung not been given the scarlet letter more loudly if it's such a standout in this way? And why is it that I've had virtually identical experiences between it and my first two phones when the only common denominator is Android?" Saying that the problem was Samsung and not Android is kind of simplistic, and not overly fair to Samsung IMHO. Early on, there were indeed real issues with both the hardware and software, even on Motorola and Nexus devices, compounded by the fact that the OEMs themselves often were using parts made elsewhere (i.e. MediaTek and Qualcomm CPUs, memory from any number of places, etc.) and were simply bad at software. It took awhile for the various companies to be able to consistently make good devices (many of them were indeed helped by the Nexus reference program and the things that Google themselves learned after buying Motorola). As far as giving Samsung the scarlet letter: who was going to do that? No one was able to, as Samsung dominates Android profit shares and marketing attempts. But Samsung really did lose market share to several other OEMs - and this happened all year long and not just after the iPhone 6 was launched, Samsung's profits and shipments went down but lots of others' went up! - because of this. And that is why Samsung quickly responded by removing a lot of the bloat in the S6. Expect the Note 5 to have a lot less bloat also. Not saying that your experience would have been better had you gone pure Android all along. My Xoom was pure Android and it was garbage. Even the first Nexus had major bugs. I am just saying that it took time for Android to produce consistent, crisp performance. As for the people who bought devices before Android 4.2 or 4.3, and before the OEMs figured out the hardware ... hey apologies to you. I guess iPhones would have legitimately been better options back then. Although I will say that IF you didn't compare it to an iPad and simply judged it on its own, my XOOM was a decent device and is still perfectly functional. Its main drawback, especially after the Jellybean update, was a lack of quality 3rd party apps. Right now it is being used primarily for casual games and Chromecasting and it does both just fine. "My problem with the Nexus 6 is that the internal storage is smaller than I need, and I can't expand it." Agreed. I do not like Google's attempts to push us into the cloud, which is why they won't even so much as come up with a browser-based iTunes type client. My next phone probably won't be a Nexus for that reason. But keep in mind that iPhones don' t do the external storage thing either. "I also have been spoiled by Samsung screens. :-)" Yeah. The Nexus 6 screen is mediocre compared to the latest flagships. It is comparable to the iPhone 6 Plus display though. "they just don't stay that way, in my experience, while Apple phones....do" Yeah. That is a big one there. Apple's stuff is built to last. A cheap Android phone that I bought for experimental purposes broke after the first software update. A tablet that I got when I was trying to be a developer just got slower and slower. Meanwhile, that iPod that I bought over 10 years ago would still be kicking had I not lost it, and it was only a Shuffle. The 3 year old iPad that I bought used still works great too. So, giving CyanogenMod a look might not be worth your time if the "device slows down with age" issue hasn't been resolved, because CyanogenMod won't fix that. That is not the fault of the OS, but the hardware components degrading due to heat and dust. The Android OEMs still have to get better with the hardware, and I actually think that the push to get to 64 bits hurt them. But allow me to say that my Galaxy Mega was a very good device except for the TouchWiz-induced lag and 720p screen (and that it was going to be forever stuck on 4.4.2). And no instability that wasn't due to bad apps. I gave it away to a friend, and it still performs great. My Nexus 6: virtually no lag at all, and the only instability is due to bad apps. (However it is brand new so I guess I will have to check it out 18 months from now.) But hey, if Apple meets your needs, more power to you. I never thought the day would come when I bought a Mac, but Windows 8 taught me to never say never!
  • I hear ya. The "defend the underestimated platform from rampant misunderstanding" thing definitely resonates with me, as this is what I do with 4th generation console video gaming all the time. This is off topic, but a year or two ago, I wrote an 8-part series on the 16-bit console wars (collectively totalling about 60 pages) on the now defunct "Retrogaming Times Monthly" ezine. The assertion that I spent 60 pages making is that the perceived hierarchy which goes SNES on top, then Genesis, then PCE/TG16 on the bottom is totally wrong. Instead, I argued for a "too-close-to-call" "too-give-and-take" effective three-way-tie. Also, I took the common assumption that Neo Geo AES is better in every single way, and showed that while it's definitely best overall, that it actually does have a few points where it loses to the others (the analogy I used for the degree of significance of these weaknesses relative the total hardware was "elbow pinches against a steamroller", but still, each of the SNES, Genesis, and PCE outperform the Neo Geo in at least one small way.) So I get it. I wish that I could just simply sit back and enjoy the SNES for all the wonderful things that commend us to it, but instead, I'm having to constantly battle against it, or at least against the pleb that have practically dieified it. Back on topic: I really was very intrigued by the Mega. I loved how huge that screen was! But I was also disappointed with the resolution, and unless I'm very much mistaken, didn't it basically just have S3 guts inside? Still, I do wish I had a phone with a screen that big. I like me my big screens! In fact, that'd be a real bummer about going back to Apple. 5.5" is kinda my minimum for screen sizes that I'd be comfy with. While the 6+ makes the cut, it makes it by the minimum. I love the screen size on the N6 and the Lumia 1520. If I had to go apple, I'd love to have one in that size, though with as big as the top and bottom bezels are on Apples, the phone as a whole would probably be as big as the Mega almost. Anyway, at the risk of beating the point to death, let me just say one last time that I don't particularly want to go back to iOS. iOS is fine, and there are things I even seriously like about it. But that doesnt change the fact that I'm still really hoping for a rescue from that outcome at least by Android...or even better, by Windows. I love the live tiles UI, I'm really impressed with what I've seen from Win 10, and I can't wait to see what MS will do once 10's on everything. But they've gotta turn their app support situation completely around before I'll sign on. But anyway, this is what has made me feel like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth. You could boil everything I've said down to two simple sentences: "Apple's great! Someone please rescue me from Apple!" ;-) Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • I love the design of the iphone over the HTC one m9. I do not like that rounded,back on the HTC . it also looks too narrow. I'll take the iPhone over this HTC any day.
  • After reading all the comments here and being a big Apple fan that also likes HTC products, I have the following comments to make:
    I own an iPhone 6 Plus which I like very much. The HTC One series has been the only smartphone design that I like better than the iPhone. Especially the M8 and the M9 are for me the better looking phones.
    The M9 feels incredible in the hand. There is absolutely no comparison to the iPhone 6. To be honest, I wish Apple had created the M9 design, because I would love to run iOS on the M9.
    Is the M9 the better phone? Maybe, for some of us, probably not for most people. HTC failed to create an out of the box great camera user experience. There are tweaks that can be done to the camera's software with which people can really make great pictures, at least on normal lighting conditions. There is also a new update out in Taiwan (that should be rolled out in the next weeks worldwide) that further improves the camera, so I wouldn't call that a problem anymore (or in a few weeks). As I wrote before, the problem is that HTC didn't provide these software enhancements from day one. Sad.
    Another point where HTC should provide a better experience is the display. It is still good, but not the best anymore. HTC needs to improve in this regard. For those of us that were lucky enough to listen to the M9's audio, you know what I mean when I say that it is the best available on any smartphone. If that's important to you, then there is only one option..
    I have both the iPhone 6 Plus and the M9 and when I want to spontaneously pick a phone to use, it's always the M9!!! I can't really explain it, since I am an Apple guy, have only Apple products and I am deeply invested into the Apple ecosystem. I don't particularly like Google, but HTC has made me have a look into the other side.
    I like getting informed about what's happening around the world by using Blinkfeed. On my iPhone I have FlipBoard and News Republic, but they are not as good.
    I find myself watching Youtube videos and movies on my M9. I almost never want to do that on my iPhone 6 Plus. Why? It's the sound..The difference is unbelievable and it makes me go back to the M9 all the time..
    There are things of course where the iPhone is just better:
    * The camera if you don't want to bother with manual settings
    * Video Calls: FaceTime is the best. Skype and other services are mediocre at best..
    * Messaging: I prefer Messages to WhatsApp.
    * Internet Surfing: Safari is still the best mobile browser.
    * General responsiveness of the interface: iPhone apps almost never lag and scrolling is smooth. This isn't always the case on the M9. Chrome, the Twitter app and many others can lag severely and scrolling is choppy. This is not an M9 issue, but an Android one. If you have time to look for alternatives, then you will indeed find apps that look good and are smooth. Overall, yes, I agree with René. For most people the iPhone is indeed the better choice, but the M9 is on many levels a better phone, or at least a very good phone, on a high level. People talk about the Samsung S6, but the S6 isn't really better. It's just something new.