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		<title>By: multimeter working</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-134305</link>
		<dc:creator>multimeter working</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gossen - Milliohm- und Multimeter (Preis vom 25.03. 01:05)Gossen - Milliohm- und Multimeter: Milliohm- und Multimeter MetraHit 27M von Gossen Metrawatt. Milliohmmeter, Multimeter und Datalogger, Temperaturmesser. Das METRAHit 27M ist ein kompaktes Milliohmmeter zzgl. Multimeter und Thermometer. Es ist .... <a href="http://fs2.kauflux.de/slot/888/artimg/large/20456243_4612042.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://fs2.kauflux.de/slot/888/artimg/large/20456243_4612042.jpg</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bit the Bullet, Switched from Palm Centro to iPhone &#8211; Brian DeSousa</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-92437</link>
		<dc:creator>Bit the Bullet, Switched from Palm Centro to iPhone &#8211; Brian DeSousa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] time finding a decent Twitter application (the recent 2TwitMe is the only one I can think of).  This post by another blogger echoes my sentiments on moving away from the Palm platform &#8211; although written two years [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: edweirdo</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-43799</link>
		<dc:creator>edweirdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just switched from being a 12-year Palm user to an iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I ran into the same issues other folks have reported re: migrating data from Palm to iPhone. It was such a hassle, and I&#039;m a software architect, that I wrote up a guide on how to do it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hope this helps other people:
http://edweirdo.blogspot.com/2009/05/palm-to-iphone-migration-guide.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just switched from being a 12-year Palm user to an iPhone.</p>

<p>And I ran into the same issues other folks have reported re: migrating data from Palm to iPhone. It was such a hassle, and I'm a software architect, that I wrote up a guide on how to do it.</p>

<p>Hope this helps other people:
<a href="http://edweirdo.blogspot.com/2009/05/palm-to-iphone-migration-guide.html" rel="nofollow">http://edweirdo.blogspot.com/2009/05/palm-to-iphone-migration-guide.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-11662</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s a reply i got from a coworker:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My wife and I have been working on on this for a couple days now actually.  I ended up importing my contacts into Google Contacts and syncing from there.  However, the export/import process was not smooth and I ended up manually entering a bunch of contacts that simply didn&#039;t transfer.  My wife moved her calendar and contacts from palm into outlook. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For the calendar, she exported from palm in the dba format (which outlook doesn&#039;t support), imported the file into yahoo, which then let her export as a csv file.  The import into outlook worked okay but she had a bit of cleanup there too (all of her time-based event imported, but none of her date-based events, like birthdays).  For contacts she exported as csv and did a ton of cleanup and reformatting in excel before importing into outlook.  Once she had a consistent set of data columns in excel, the import into outlook as pretty smooth.  Her biggest problem was, in palm, her contact phone numbers (home, work, etc) weren&#039;t in the same order for every contact.  I think she ended up exporting/importing business contacts separately from personal contacts to alleviate that a little.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hope that gives you something to work with...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's a reply i got from a coworker:</p>

<p>My wife and I have been working on on this for a couple days now actually.  I ended up importing my contacts into Google Contacts and syncing from there.  However, the export/import process was not smooth and I ended up manually entering a bunch of contacts that simply didn't transfer.  My wife moved her calendar and contacts from palm into outlook. </p>

<p>For the calendar, she exported from palm in the dba format (which outlook doesn't support), imported the file into yahoo, which then let her export as a csv file.  The import into outlook worked okay but she had a bit of cleanup there too (all of her time-based event imported, but none of her date-based events, like birthdays).  For contacts she exported as csv and did a ton of cleanup and reformatting in excel before importing into outlook.  Once she had a consistent set of data columns in excel, the import into outlook as pretty smooth.  Her biggest problem was, in palm, her contact phone numbers (home, work, etc) weren't in the same order for every contact.  I think she ended up exporting/importing business contacts separately from personal contacts to alleviate that a little.</p>

<p>Hope that gives you something to work with...</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-11661</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;David, I wonder if you&#039;ll get a reply.  As far as I have been able to discover, there is no quick and neat way to transfer Palm contacts to the iphone.  Even if you are able to transfer them to Outlook first (which is syncable with iphone, they say), you probably will have to comb through them and correct the formatting, one by one, as it gets messed up in the process.  But, anyone have a good answer?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I wonder if you'll get a reply.  As far as I have been able to discover, there is no quick and neat way to transfer Palm contacts to the iphone.  Even if you are able to transfer them to Outlook first (which is syncable with iphone, they say), you probably will have to comb through them and correct the formatting, one by one, as it gets messed up in the process.  But, anyone have a good answer?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-11458</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Having used the Treo 650 since it first appeared I had to set up a new phone account last week. In all the fuss about iPhone 3G I thought I might go for that, right up to the point where I asked the nice sales assistant  how to change the battery. &quot;Sorry sir, if the battery fails you have to return it for service..&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple may have got a lot of things right on the iPhone but why do they think it&#039;s acceptable to treat something as simple as a battery change as a major service task.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll be using my Treo a while longer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having used the Treo 650 since it first appeared I had to set up a new phone account last week. In all the fuss about iPhone 3G I thought I might go for that, right up to the point where I asked the nice sales assistant  how to change the battery. "Sorry sir, if the battery fails you have to return it for service.."</p>

<p>Apple may have got a lot of things right on the iPhone but why do they think it's acceptable to treat something as simple as a battery change as a major service task.</p>

<p>I'll be using my Treo a while longer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-11251</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just replaced my Palm with an iphone. Is it possible to transfer my contacts over to the iphone?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: stacy</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-10935</link>
		<dc:creator>stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I too had the first palm and fell in love with it. it&#039;s sad to admit, but it&#039;s a dead platform. they didn&#039;t keep up and the iphone ate their lunch. now i&#039;ve got my brand new iphone 3g and have spent hours trying to get my calendar info from the last 10 years.
the export .dba file doesn&#039;t pick up all the data. when importing that into yahoo calendar, more than half the data is missing.
how did you transfer?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too had the first palm and fell in love with it. it's sad to admit, but it's a dead platform. they didn't keep up and the iphone ate their lunch. now i've got my brand new iphone 3g and have spent hours trying to get my calendar info from the last 10 years.
the export .dba file doesn't pick up all the data. when importing that into yahoo calendar, more than half the data is missing.
how did you transfer?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Jet, I tried the technique as outlined in Dave Taylor&#039;s we site but hasn&#039;t worked. I&#039;m actually trying to copy my partner&#039;s Palm contacts and I don&#039;t actually have a Palm myself. To try the process Dave discribed I installed the Palm software but haven&#039;t been able to open his .Ink document either through Palm software or using the &quot;open with&quot; mac feature. I believe I must first import the .Ink file into my Palm desktop before I&#039;m able to export as Vcard. Any more advise? Steve&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jet, I tried the technique as outlined in Dave Taylor's we site but hasn't worked. I'm actually trying to copy my partner's Palm contacts and I don't actually have a Palm myself. To try the process Dave discribed I installed the Palm software but haven't been able to open his .Ink document either through Palm software or using the "open with" mac feature. I believe I must first import the .Ink file into my Palm desktop before I'm able to export as Vcard. Any more advise? Steve</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: T.L. Coyote</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>T.L. Coyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Between the iPhone and all the new BlackBerry&#039;s (BlackBerries?) hitting the market,  Palm had better do something big -- and FAST--or they&#039;re going to be toast.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between the iPhone and all the new BlackBerry's (BlackBerries?) hitting the market,  Palm had better do something big -- and FAST--or they're going to be toast.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jet</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kent I totally agree with you about the Palm OS being outdated because Palm was also my first PDA and haven&#039;t changed since (my first M500). I am also considering the iPhone when it comes to Europe BUT I agree with Marci that I do use my TX as a shopping list and what have you not list, diet manager, e-reader, expense diary, calender. My life is in there. I know all the other Windows and Symbian do all that too and I am considering Symbian. Let&#039;s face it I am already a Mac person and started with Palm because it was compatible and let&#039;s face it so is the iPhone. It&#039;s gorgeous and the touch screen is amazing. So do you just use the iPhone or in combination with something else? Do you miss third party apps?
Kind regards,
Jet&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent I totally agree with you about the Palm OS being outdated because Palm was also my first PDA and haven't changed since (my first M500). I am also considering the iPhone when it comes to Europe BUT I agree with Marci that I do use my TX as a shopping list and what have you not list, diet manager, e-reader, expense diary, calender. My life is in there. I know all the other Windows and Symbian do all that too and I am considering Symbian. Let's face it I am already a Mac person and started with Palm because it was compatible and let's face it so is the iPhone. It's gorgeous and the touch screen is amazing. So do you just use the iPhone or in combination with something else? Do you miss third party apps?
Kind regards,
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		<title>By: Jet</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Steve,
First convert your Palm contact list to the Mac Address Book. Check this out:
http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how&lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt;i&lt;em&gt;transfer&lt;/em&gt;palm&lt;em&gt;contacts&lt;/em&gt;to&lt;em&gt;address&lt;/em&gt;book.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hope it&#039;ll work out for you!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kind Regards, 
Jet&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,
First convert your Palm contact list to the Mac Address Book. Check this out:
<a href="http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how" rel="nofollow">http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how</a><em>do</em>i<em>transfer</em>palm<em>contacts</em>to<em>address</em>book.html</p>

<p>Hope it'll work out for you!</p>

<p>Kind Regards, 
Jet</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m considering the IPhone but haven&#039;t found how to convert my contact list from Palm file (.Ink) to IPhone. Can anyone outline the process for me?  I have Mac OSX and Microsoft Office.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm considering the IPhone but haven't found how to convert my contact list from Palm file (.Ink) to IPhone. Can anyone outline the process for me?  I have Mac OSX and Microsoft Office.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chad Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;No, iPhone can’t do that but just about any other mobile platform can. So that’s hardly a compelling argument to keep PalmOS around.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I feel people have turned a blind eye to Windows Mobile&#039;s clumsiness and slowness. Multitasking is nice, but not really necessary. I was contemplating getting a Treo 750... but after playing with the device for an hour, I gave up and could not convince myself to buy it. I am sticking with my Treo 680.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"No, iPhone can’t do that but just about any other mobile platform can. So that’s hardly a compelling argument to keep PalmOS around."</p>

<p>I feel people have turned a blind eye to Windows Mobile's clumsiness and slowness. Multitasking is nice, but not really necessary. I was contemplating getting a Treo 750... but after playing with the device for an hour, I gave up and could not convince myself to buy it. I am sticking with my Treo 680.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Can the iPhone Double As a Laptop? MSNBC Thinks So : The iPhone Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Can the iPhone Double As a Laptop? MSNBC Thinks So : The iPhone Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] technology writer, Joe Hutsko, purchased an iPhone to replace his Treo 680 (a common trend it seems) and decided to put the much hyped gadget to the test, to see whether iPhone is road [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] technology writer, Joe Hutsko, purchased an iPhone to replace his Treo 680 (a common trend it seems) and decided to put the much hyped gadget to the test, to see whether iPhone is road [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kent Pribbernow</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Pribbernow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Talk to me when I can use the iphone to manage my grocery list, maintain my home library card catalogue, my password database and my automotive maintenance and gas logbook.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, iPhone can&#039;t do that but just about any other mobile platform can. So that&#039;s hardly a compelling argument to keep PalmOS around.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Talk to me when I can use the iphone to manage my grocery list, maintain my home library card catalogue, my password database and my automotive maintenance and gas logbook.</blockquote>

<p>No, iPhone can't do that but just about any other mobile platform can. So that's hardly a compelling argument to keep PalmOS around.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Marci</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-684</link>
		<dc:creator>Marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That makes serious assumptions about what people are using their Palms for.  So far, I haven&#039;t seen the other PDA that does what my Palm does as efficently as the Palm.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Talk to me when I can use the iphone to manage my grocery list, maintain my home library card catalogue, my password database and my automotive maintenance and gas logbook.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes serious assumptions about what people are using their Palms for.  So far, I haven't seen the other PDA that does what my Palm does as efficently as the Palm.  </p>

<p>Talk to me when I can use the iphone to manage my grocery list, maintain my home library card catalogue, my password database and my automotive maintenance and gas logbook.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kent Pribbernow</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/07/18/saying-goodbye-to-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Pribbernow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s possible Palm may be able to push new Linux products out to the market sooner than it did Garnet-based hardware. But there will be enormous challenges that lay ahead of them once they reach this point.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Palm once dominated this industry. Developers once eagerly flocked to Palm&#039;s developer tent to write applications for their platform. Today they are a mere shadow of their former self. They&#039;ve lost their developer base. Most of the support and development happening on PalmOS today is inertial efforts from existing products. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;New development isn&#039;t happening, and most of the installed based has migrated to other platforms, particularly Windows Mobile.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When the new platform ships Palm will be starting from a zero sum position. Whether or not developers embrace this OS remains to be seen, and since it will be backward compatible with Garnet applications, developers may see no reason to port their apps to the new framework. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The pressure on Palm to innovative and &quot;wow&quot; the market is great, and judging from the company&#039;s recent efforts, namely the Foolio, I don&#039;t see them delivering. The idealist in me wants to believe Palm will surprises us all and build a new operating system like no other, but reality and past experience paints a different picture. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And now that Apple has entered this market with an iconic product, the outlook appears even more bleak.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope for our sake that Palm does innovate. This industry needs competition. The question is whether Palm can compete with the industry.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's possible Palm may be able to push new Linux products out to the market sooner than it did Garnet-based hardware. But there will be enormous challenges that lay ahead of them once they reach this point.</p>

<p>Palm once dominated this industry. Developers once eagerly flocked to Palm's developer tent to write applications for their platform. Today they are a mere shadow of their former self. They've lost their developer base. Most of the support and development happening on PalmOS today is inertial efforts from existing products. </p>

<p>New development isn't happening, and most of the installed based has migrated to other platforms, particularly Windows Mobile.</p>

<p>When the new platform ships Palm will be starting from a zero sum position. Whether or not developers embrace this OS remains to be seen, and since it will be backward compatible with Garnet applications, developers may see no reason to port their apps to the new framework. </p>

<p>The pressure on Palm to innovative and "wow" the market is great, and judging from the company's recent efforts, namely the Foolio, I don't see them delivering. The idealist in me wants to believe Palm will surprises us all and build a new operating system like no other, but reality and past experience paints a different picture. </p>

<p>And now that Apple has entered this market with an iconic product, the outlook appears even more bleak.</p>

<p>I hope for our sake that Palm does innovate. This industry needs competition. The question is whether Palm can compete with the industry.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dmm</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok, both Ryan Kairer, in PalmInfocenter&#039;s coverage of the call and Alan Grassia in a 1SRC editorial (titled &quot;Worth the Wait&quot;) are saying Palm will ship Linux-based Treos in 2008.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m keeping my fingers crossed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, both Ryan Kairer, in PalmInfocenter's coverage of the call and Alan Grassia in a 1SRC editorial (titled "Worth the Wait") are saying Palm will ship Linux-based Treos in 2008.</p>

<p>I'm keeping my fingers crossed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dmm</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m wondering, though, if that&#039;s still the case.  When Garnet was released, Palm was licensing the OS to other companies so they had to do things differently than what they agreed to with Access.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And irrelevance is at least somewhat subjective; while I agree that Palm OS is more than a little dated now, I haven&#039;t yet seen a device I would even seriously consider as a replacement for my Treo.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll have to go back and reread what Colligan said in the conference call--it sounded like he was talking about devices shipping in 2008.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm wondering, though, if that's still the case.  When Garnet was released, Palm was licensing the OS to other companies so they had to do things differently than what they agreed to with Access.</p>

<p>And irrelevance is at least somewhat subjective; while I agree that Palm OS is more than a little dated now, I haven't yet seen a device I would even seriously consider as a replacement for my Treo.</p>

<p>I'll have to go back and reread what Colligan said in the conference call--it sounded like he was talking about devices shipping in 2008.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kent Pribbernow</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s the OS release, not hardware. Palm typically takes five months+ between the time an OS goes Gold, to integrating its new software into hardware devices. That was the case with Garnet. So even if Palm releases Palm Linux in Mid-2008 that doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re going to see Treos running it soon after. Expect at least an 18 month lead time to base this OS and roll out new products. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Either way the damage has been done, the platform has faded into irrelevance.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's the OS release, not hardware. Palm typically takes five months+ between the time an OS goes Gold, to integrating its new software into hardware devices. That was the case with Garnet. So even if Palm releases Palm Linux in Mid-2008 that doesn't mean you're going to see Treos running it soon after. Expect at least an 18 month lead time to base this OS and roll out new products. </p>

<p>Either way the damage has been done, the platform has faded into irrelevance.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dmm</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Roughly 2 years away?  From July 2007?  That sounds like faulty math... Palm-over-Linux Treos are supposed to be out sometime (let&#039;s hope the 1st half) in 2008!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roughly 2 years away?  From July 2007?  That sounds like faulty math... Palm-over-Linux Treos are supposed to be out sometime (let's hope the 1st half) in 2008!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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