Comments on: If Nokia Launches an iClone, and Nobody Notices, Does it Truly Exist? http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/ More of everything iPhone and iPad Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:55:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: abhi http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-34562 abhi Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:34:31 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-34562 <p>Guys, how do you manage to live with a phone that cannot share in bluetooth or forward messages or can't tune FM or can't record video?</p> Guys, how do you manage to live with a phone that cannot share in bluetooth or forward messages or can’t tune FM or can’t record video?

]]> By: ephat http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16636 ephat Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:44:05 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16636 <p>It cracks me up. I know this is an iphone site but I am guessing most of these comments are from people who have never used symbian s60. Sure it isn't the perfect OS on a phone but neither is the iphone. I have both a N95 and a iphone 3g and i love them both. There are plenty of great things the N95 can do that the Iphone will never be able to do because of Apple, but at the same time the iphone just does a lot of things better such as email and safari. Until Apple has a Slingbox client, GPS turn by turn navigation I will be keeping both phones.</p> It cracks me up. I know this is an iphone site but I am guessing most of these comments are from people who have never used symbian s60. Sure it isn’t the perfect OS on a phone but neither is the iphone. I have both a N95 and a iphone 3g and i love them both. There are plenty of great things the N95 can do that the Iphone will never be able to do because of Apple, but at the same time the iphone just does a lot of things better such as email and safari. Until Apple has a Slingbox client, GPS turn by turn navigation I will be keeping both phones.

]]> By: Endrit http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16619 Endrit Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:51:42 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16619 <p>yea baby, great news. Finally some competion. This will push apple to improve. Yes. Give us copy/paste or I'll switch to nokia and have a full year of music for free. That's a deal. Maybe I'll buy one just for that. And it looks nice. I didn't like the gphone but this Nokia is a competitor. If apple had good software I woldnt even think on switching. But an incentive such as free music for a whole year. Now that's a phone. Better display?Flash player? Wmv, avi player?Helll yea. Good for you nokia.</p> yea baby, great news. Finally some competion. This will push apple to improve. Yes. Give us copy/paste or I’ll switch to nokia and have a full year of music for free. That’s a deal. Maybe I’ll buy one just for that. And it looks nice. I didn’t like the gphone but this Nokia is a competitor. If apple had good software I woldnt even think on switching. But an incentive such as free music for a whole year. Now that’s a phone. Better display?Flash player? Wmv, avi player?Helll yea. Good for you nokia.

]]> By: Ben http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16612 Ben Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:17:39 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16612 <p>I own an iPhone 3G, a good data plan, and >40 apps. It's a wonderful device with unparalleled graphical and physical user interfaces, a slick store for apps and music, and a good (if lately somewhat disgruntled) developer following.</p> <p>I think that the Nokia 8500 (the phone shown, above) is a good step forward for Nokia. New smartphones don't have to be equivalent to the iPhone to be good devices. If they were carbon copies then you would complain that the companies aren't innovating and are just copying verbatim in hopes of stealing sales from Apple.</p> <p>If you watch some of the other Nokia 5800 videos that are available then you'll see that it does, indeed, have some very nice features (that aren't present on the iPhone):</p> <p>-video recording and editing (merge videos, add text, add soundracks, upload, sync media with Ovi, etc.) -web feeds attached to contacts (eg. for those w/ RSS feeds) -3.2 MP camera -dual LED flash -microSD slot -fingertip, fingernail or stylus input -handwriting recognition -platform-independent software development</p> <p>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/</p> <p>The "Comes With Music" version is supposed to follow a few months after the initial release of the 5800.</p> <p>Personally, I'm looking forward to checking out this device and future Nokia phones. I greatly enjoy and will continue to enjoy my iPhone 3G, but I'm not going to blindly dismiss the rest of the forest because I think I've already found the best, most interesting or most important tree.</p> I own an iPhone 3G, a good data plan, and >40 apps. It’s a wonderful device with unparalleled graphical and physical user interfaces, a slick store for apps and music, and a good (if lately somewhat disgruntled) developer following.

I think that the Nokia 8500 (the phone shown, above) is a good step forward for Nokia. New smartphones don’t have to be equivalent to the iPhone to be good devices. If they were carbon copies then you would complain that the companies aren’t innovating and are just copying verbatim in hopes of stealing sales from Apple.

If you watch some of the other Nokia 5800 videos that are available then you’ll see that it does, indeed, have some very nice features (that aren’t present on the iPhone):

-video recording and editing (merge videos, add text, add soundracks, upload, sync media with Ovi, etc.) -web feeds attached to contacts (eg. for those w/ RSS feeds) -3.2 MP camera -dual LED flash -microSD slot -fingertip, fingernail or stylus input -handwriting recognition -platform-independent software development

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/

The “Comes With Music” version is supposed to follow a few months after the initial release of the 5800.

Personally, I’m looking forward to checking out this device and future Nokia phones. I greatly enjoy and will continue to enjoy my iPhone 3G, but I’m not going to blindly dismiss the rest of the forest because I think I’ve already found the best, most interesting or most important tree.

]]> By: Sid http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16576 Sid Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:15:21 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16576 <p>Hey guys, nokia mentioned at the first place that this phone is not their answer to iPhone. so why bother? </p> <p>I also find it, some ppl are very reluctant to accept good things if it is not iPhone. The true 'iphone clone' will be released in few months.</p> <p>wait...does iphone's safari supports flash?</p> Hey guys, nokia mentioned at the first place that this phone is not their answer to iPhone. so why bother?

I also find it, some ppl are very reluctant to accept good things if it is not iPhone. The true ‘iphone clone’ will be released in few months.

wait…does iphone’s safari supports flash?

]]> By: patrick http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16561 patrick Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:54:45 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16561 <p>wow that will be the next iphone killer for sure! NOT> it has to turn black to switch to landscape mode while on the internet ha ha ha ha.</p> wow that will be the next iphone killer for sure! NOT> it has to turn black to switch to landscape mode while on the internet ha ha ha ha.

]]> By: The Reptile http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16556 The Reptile Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:56:46 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16556 <p>@scottb, are you saying that they should rename it the Dirk Diggler?</p> @scottb, are you saying that they should rename it the Dirk Diggler?

]]> By: scottb http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16554 scottb Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:52:15 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16554 <p>You can't in good-conscience call that a knock-off - it's too cheezy. It has a touch-screen, that's it. Besides, I can't take any product seriously that is shown using a 70's porn soundtrack :)</p> You can’t in good-conscience call that a knock-off – it’s too cheezy. It has a touch-screen, that’s it. Besides, I can’t take any product seriously that is shown using a 70′s porn soundtrack :)

]]> By: Feog http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16553 Feog Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:19:12 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16553 <p>While there using S60, Nokia will never have a genuine competitor to the iPhone. It's about ease of use, and S60 ain't got that!</p> While there using S60, Nokia will never have a genuine competitor to the iPhone. It’s about ease of use, and S60 ain’t got that!

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16550 Jonathan Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:22:34 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16550 <p>I'm an english guy here in Singapore and to be honest, everyone is talking about Nokia comes with music, more than the tube. </p> <p>As for it, well My iphone is the shit and Nokia is miles away from an apps store... or for that matter, anything close. But i do think its quite interesting. I'd love to be able to record video's doing the work I do as well as have a better camera than my iphone's attempt at one. Not selling my iphone until I see a higher convergence device from Nokia. That i imagine is only around the corner. The N85 as a touchscreen and bye bye iphone!</p> I’m an english guy here in Singapore and to be honest, everyone is talking about Nokia comes with music, more than the tube.

As for it, well My iphone is the shit and Nokia is miles away from an apps store… or for that matter, anything close. But i do think its quite interesting. I’d love to be able to record video’s doing the work I do as well as have a better camera than my iphone’s attempt at one. Not selling my iphone until I see a higher convergence device from Nokia. That i imagine is only around the corner. The N85 as a touchscreen and bye bye iphone!

]]> By: Rob http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16549 Rob Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:15:02 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16549 <p>The Nokia, like so many others, lack the polish of the iPhone. Nice try, but no cigar.</p> The Nokia, like so many others, lack the polish of the iPhone. Nice try, but no cigar.

]]> By: Alex http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16547 Alex Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:04:29 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16547 <p>I've seen this video linked in other places and read comments about how bad it looked, but I didn't actually watch the video until now. Wow, that looks really bad. As Jim C above states, being a follower is fine if you improve upon what you're copying; Apple has done it before. But man, that interface is horrible and unresponsive. Maybe it's the user's fault for not knowing how hard he has to press the screen, but it almost looks like he's playing a guessing game! And then the pathetic load times/rotation times for the photo viewer... geez. This is the final hardware/software (for launch)?</p> I’ve seen this video linked in other places and read comments about how bad it looked, but I didn’t actually watch the video until now. Wow, that looks really bad. As Jim C above states, being a follower is fine if you improve upon what you’re copying; Apple has done it before. But man, that interface is horrible and unresponsive. Maybe it’s the user’s fault for not knowing how hard he has to press the screen, but it almost looks like he’s playing a guessing game! And then the pathetic load times/rotation times for the photo viewer… geez. This is the final hardware/software (for launch)?

]]> By: The Reptile http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16545 The Reptile Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:49:55 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16545 <p>Rene, nice find with the video. Puts the whole release into better context. My sense is that this will be one of many credible devices from Nokia. They have the manufacturing down. They have good hardware, especially the camera from the N95/N96. Maps, check and no need for help from Google either. And 8 GB memory is a lot better than some other devices are marketing right now.</p> <p>On the down side, they must be using the same haptic screen vendor that RIM is using - did anyone else notice the need to double touch menu options? Not good. Also, the navigation looks like it takes way too much time.</p> <p>Nokia will be around because they can afford to be. Being number 1 has its advantages. But at some point they're going to have to go head to head with the iPhone and my sense is that they'll need to have a nice follow up device to make it a fight.</p> Rene, nice find with the video. Puts the whole release into better context. My sense is that this will be one of many credible devices from Nokia. They have the manufacturing down. They have good hardware, especially the camera from the N95/N96. Maps, check and no need for help from Google either. And 8 GB memory is a lot better than some other devices are marketing right now.

On the down side, they must be using the same haptic screen vendor that RIM is using – did anyone else notice the need to double touch menu options? Not good. Also, the navigation looks like it takes way too much time.

Nokia will be around because they can afford to be. Being number 1 has its advantages. But at some point they’re going to have to go head to head with the iPhone and my sense is that they’ll need to have a nice follow up device to make it a fight.

]]> By: Jim C http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16543 Jim C Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:42:49 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16543 <p>Actually, being a fast follower is not a bad strategy - as long as you learn from the innovator's mistakes. The innovator preps the market and you then swoop in with better / cheaper. In many way's that's been Microsoft's strategy and they've done quite well with it.</p> Actually, being a fast follower is not a bad strategy – as long as you learn from the innovator’s mistakes. The innovator preps the market and you then swoop in with better / cheaper. In many way’s that’s been Microsoft’s strategy and they’ve done quite well with it.

]]> By: Rick http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16540 Rick Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:11:21 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16540 <p>Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! And seeing that every other company is trying to imitate the iPhone, they too must feel it is the best.</p> Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! And seeing that every other company is trying to imitate the iPhone, they too must feel it is the best.

]]> By: iErik http://www.imore.com/2008/10/03/if-nokia-launches-an-iclone-and-nobody-notices-does-it-truly-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16539 iErik Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:06:09 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4721#comment-16539 <p>hahaha when will nokia realize its not about copying, its about innovation, come up with your own ideas nokia, same goes for you google.</p> hahaha when will nokia realize its not about copying, its about innovation, come up with your own ideas nokia, same goes for you google.

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