Updated! Rogers/Fido to Sell iPhone 3G S in Canada, $199/$299 on June 19
Okay, I take back 13% of all the bad things I've ever said about Rogers. The Social Media Rep for Rogers/Fido, Keith McArthur, has unleashed the following today via Twitter:
- Both Rogers Wireless and Fido will offer iPhone 3GS starting June 19. [link]
- Rogers/Fido pricing is $199 for 16GB iPhone 3GS; $299 for 32GB iPhone 3GS on a three-year voice and data plan. [link]
- 8GB version of the iPhone 3G will drop to $99 on June 19 at Rogers and Fido with a three-year voice and data plan. [link]
- Rogers is reintroducing the $30/6GB data plan for iPhones effective tomorrow, June 9. Offer available for a limited time. [link]
- Rogers/Fido are only national carriers to offer $25/500MB plan. 93% of iPhone users use less than 500MB so this is the right plan for most. [link]
UPDATE: Steve in the comments points out this gem from the same Twitter feed:
- There will be a no-contract price for customers who want to upgrade before they’re eligible for a subsidy [
You stand on guard for me. Well done, sirs!
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We really need some protection from this stuff in Canada. What's worse is that we have to lock into a 3 year contract to have this phone, yet if it breaks after a year, we are screwed.
if so, then how can I do that online? because I'm trying to pre-order it, and it's saying I'll have to pay $499 because I'm not qualified.
Info week has an article that is getting a lot of play:
"What we're trying to do is to be fair," said AT&T spokesperson Mark Siegel. "Customers in the U.S. enjoy very, very low device prices. The financial models of wireless are built on that. If you want to change your device in midstream, we want to help you do that, but you have to look at the economic realities."
I imagine that is true of Rogers as well.
While this point of view is valid, the problem remains that there is no choice. The problem, (at least with ATT) is there is no BYOiP plan. Bring Your Own iPhone, and you should get a substantial subscription plan reduction.
But that's not possible.
What I don't understand is how ATT makes money on the iPHone when there are multiple lines of service.
First line is 99 bucks (varies from plan to plan).
Each additional line costs 9 bucks. Plus the 30 dollar data plan. So that implies the subsidy is ALL packed into the data plan. (Plus your initial handset cost).
“What we’re trying to do is to be fair,” said AT&T spokesperson Mark Siegel. “Customers in the U.S. enjoy very, very low device prices. The financial models of wireless are built on that. If you want to change your device in midstream, we want to help you do that, but you have to look at the economic realities.
AKA ...if you want the new phone pay the full price or get it slightly subsidized. I don't see anything wrong with that.
It's funny - I would think Rogers would offer some sort of upgrade plan - isn't it a way for them to make more money? Or would they just be losing too much on how the 3G was subsidized?
I was told today by Rogers that this is explicitly NOT allowed and that if you pay the $400 to buy out of your current iPhone contract you will be BANNED FOR LIFE from Rogers and never allowed to purchase the iPhone 3GS, EVER, or any other phone for that matter.
"There will be a no-contract price for customers who want to upgrade before they're eligible for a subsidy."
When the new phone comes out, I plan on moving back to Rogers!
What does it even mean theres no-contract price? I'm a curren iPhone 3G owner and i want to upgrade to a 32gb in july when i'm up 12 months on my plan. Can i upgrade and sign a new 3 year term or do i have to pay full price for the device and it wouldnt effect my current contract?
I'm starting to wish i had just waited one more year for this phone. I love my iPhone but really the new features would be worth it for 299 on a new contract but not worth paying 500 bucks for. i'm going to pay 90 bucks for my plan anyhow so why pay more when you can pay less and have it now.?
Some have been saying sell your 3g but you wouldnt get much for it with the price drops and the price ive heard people waving about as a probable not avail for upgrade price is likely to be 600 which would be too rich for most people to afford.
This is what i'm betting on!!!!
Way to go screw your loyal Rogers customers, i only hope that Telus gets Sim card phones and gets the iphone because if they do i'm leaving Rogers for them. If this is the way there going to keep treating there customers, then i'm gone!!!!
The carrier pays only the phone's wholesale price, further discounted for volume, not the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price they tell you they fronted on your behalf.
Did you also think that the sticker price on that new car is what the dealer paid for it? :-)
@Frazam I have the Developer release of 3.0 and I have MMS enabled right now, but not tethering. Tethering is to be enabled next week or the week after.
So every time Apple adds a new feature we have to pay extra to use it?
A friend of mine switched from Bell to Solo once and a year later wanted to switch back and they wouldnt let him until his Solo contract was fullfiled!!! So anyone thinking there going to switch who has done it at least once think again if you want to switch back!!?!?!
Sorry to hear this Dallas but you should have had some guess of a new iPhone, i've been watching the rumors for almost 6 months on wether a new iphone was coming out. You should have been checking www.macrumors.com every other day for the news.
I havent done it before so i'm taking advantage of it for the iPhone 3GS. The other thing i dont know is how soon after you sign your original contract can you switch to the other carrier? I'm only guessing after at least one year?? maybe sooner, who knows?
Thats sucks to hear that Dallas, i would be pissed off too! On another note apple's website never has any details on future products, so you have to research it further, thats why i check with macrumors.com most of the time or listen to a podcast by OSKen on sticher radio app /mac.
For future reference, i'd use both if you want info on a future product when researching to buy a new device or software.!
I am reading about this whole Rogers/Fido switch, and about how Rogers will waive the termination fee, but I don't want to be banned from a cell phone company for life; want to keep my options open! Any ideas?
I guess in a way like you said Jeremy, if I would have researched macrumours and similar sites before hand more, maybe I would have been more aware of their up and coming 3GS before it was announced. I am really kicking myself. Bottom line is though, Fido is not handling this situation properly in my opinion. THEY made the mistake of telling me 30 days (why this salesman did, I do not know), and I think they should honour that. What happened to "the customer is always right"? Obviously not with cell phone providers!
For those interested in Fido, be aware that they are no better than any of the other cell phone providers out there. I have heard horror stories from close friends about Rogers, Telus, and Bell. Fido is NO better. They are ALL crap. Why does Canada have such a bad selection?
I have a question for you guys. I have also been told by Fido customer service that I cannot buy another iPhone with Fido unless I wait and use my Fido Dollars on my account to "upgrade" to another handset. Apparently it's their policy that you cannot go and pay cash to upgrade a phone unless you are eligible for that upgrade (which I assume means 2 years into the contract? Or maybe 2.5 years? Apple does not currently provide their Apple Care protection plan warranty on the iPhone in Canada right now (they do in the states, but not in Canada). So, I only have the 1 year complimentary warranty that comes with all iPhones. WHAT IF my iPhone breaks within my second year after my complimentary warranty is over. Will Fido not let me buy another iPhone? Will I have to wait until I am "eligible" for an upgrade to replace my handset?
1) I have an iPhone 3G. Signed contract last Aug 2008. Don't want to extend or change contract.
2) Sign up my dog for the new $299 iPhone 3gs with 3 year contract but NO data plan.
Walk out the door, walk back in, tell them my dog would like to cancel and buy out the contract ($200).
3) Dog gives me his new iPhone 3gs, I put it on my plan.
4) Sell my old iPhone 3G for $200 contract free on craigslist.
I think the cancelation fee is alot more then 200 if you cancel with in one year. The max is 400 from what my contract says. 20 bucks for every month remaining on contract up to a max of 200 dollars. Your better off waiting to see how much the iphone 3GS will be on non-subsidized prices and buy it that way.
Rogers or Fido have not posted there prices for that matter but promised that it would be on the 19th of June when the phone is released.
Jesse , They have to have a non-subsidized price for the iphone 3GS or 3G 8GB for thsoe who have had broken iphones outside there warranty!!! It's not fair to customers if they didnt.
Everyone who has issues with any cellphone company should report it to the Better Business Bureau, and make a formal complaint.
Think About it, ur gonna be paying $500 buks to get it to cancel your current contract and get the new one, not worth it wait one more year so u can upgrade cuz apple will make another one in a year.
Save your money and wait another year for the next iPhone to come out and upgrade then.
For 5 bucks difference between 500meg and 6Gig you would have to be nuts to go the cheap route, especially with in-app purchases coming down the pike.
Two weeks later i heard about the 3Gs launch, which i was fine with, until i heard that not only was it significantly cheaper, but my 3G was being offered to blow joe for $199!! (So much for 'special pricing' for Loyal Rogers Customers with my Tenor!)
So i called Rogers, went up the food chain, and was told that because my phone was purchased on the 21 st, they won't do price adjustments for me, even though i didn't even get the phone IN MY HANDS until the 28th.
Too bad. So sad.
So please, don't tell me that 'Rogers has finally pulled through for the little guy' or any bull down that path, because it doesn't matter how long you've been with them, and how much of your hard earned money they've pocketed, Rogers and Apple are in the business of making money. There is no honour or romance in how they make their money, they'll take it however and from whoever.(esp. those of us who don't have giant bank accounts, or time to argue on the phone all day with them because we're busy paying off our phone bills.)
Because you should have done your research before buying the iphone 3G.
Rogers let me upgrade without a new contract and i paid 300 bucks for a new 32gb 3GS and only because my average monthly plan was around 100 bucks. Rogers was giving eligible customers a 500 dollars off the non-sunsidized price, which in the end made it 300 bucks.