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Should Apple remove Google as default search?

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What about Apple and Google Search? What about Apple and China? What about Apple and cross platform services? What about Apple and App Store app abuses? What about… you get the idea.

And that's fine. That's great. That's exactly what I want. I said from the beginning that all of this, all the columns I've done on privacy and security, were meant to be parts of the conversation.

So, let's converse.

Watch the video version. Seriously. It's so much better.

Should Apple keep Google as its default search engine?

If Apple is all about privacy, then why is Google still the default search engine in Safari for macOS and iOS? Why not a service that respects search privacy, like DuckDuckGo. Apple might tell you it's because Google gives the best results and, ultimately, that's the tradeoff that matters to most of their users. Others will point to Google paying Apple, according to some reports, high single-dight, approaching low-double digit, billions-with-a-b dollars for default search engine placement.

And, yeah, this one resonates. Apple does a lot to intermediate Google, including sending searches through Spotlight and Siri, where Google only gets Apple's data, not yours. But, if you type something into Safari, that's all you, naked on the internet. And so, if Apple really wants to completely lock down privacy on iOS and macOS, they'll need to plug that default leak in Safari one way or another.

As much as it's tempting to just say Apple should default to DuckDuckGo instead, Google, warts and harvesting and biases and all, really does still provide the best results.

So, my preference would be for this: The first time you launch Safari on a new Mac, iPhone, or iPad, it asks you what you want to use as your default search engine, with a randomized list of choices including Google, DuckDuckGo, and Bing.

Then, people who care about privacy can choose DuckDuckGo and keep their personal search data personal. And people who don't care, or simply find the data-for-services deal worth it, can choose Google and just… Google away.

Should Apple store Chinese iCloud data on Chinese servers?

Apple also gets dinged for its willingness to follow Chinese law and host Chinese customer data in China on Chinese-owned servers. I've done a column on this already, but too long didn't read: China has a long history of civil and human rights violations, and localizing data could allow it to be used against locals.

But, part of the pushback also smacks of ethnocentrism. Many governments and citizens of other countries feel just as concerned about their data being stored in the U.S. and potentially subject to Snowden-style abuse by agencies and entities in the U.S.

I'm by no means false-ing any equivalencies here — there is absolutely no comparison between the two governments and their track records. It's critical, however,l to understand that China doesn't trust U.S. tech companies with its citizens data any more than the U.S. trusts Huawei with American data, and we've all seen how that's been playing out recently.

For Apple's part, the company insists that while the data has been moved to China in keeping with Chinese law, it's still encrypted and subject to the same privacy policies and key-storage protocols as data stored in the U.S.

And that means, at least for now, Chinese customers still get to enjoy the benefits of backup and recovery for all their apps and media and the photos and videos of their kids and family, rather than being abandoned by Apple and left without that service.

It's a tight rope walk and one without a net, absolutely, so if and when the Chinese government does anything to violate that data, we'll have to see how Apple handles it.

Should Apple completely lock down iCloud backups?

Apple is 100% security first when it comes to real-time data. Everything you send from one iOS device to another, or from an iOS device to iCloud, is end-to-end encrypted, and not accessible to anyone but you and the person you're sending it to. That's fail secure.

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But, Apple has been criticized over how it handles backups. Those aren't encrypted, at least not in a way that absolutely keeps everyone out forever and always. If something goes wrong, Apple can help you recover that data. That's because it's fail safe.

I've written a column explaining the differences between fail secure vs. fail safe before as well. Link in the description. Basically, for some people, having their nudie pics and sexts leak is the worst possible thing that can happen. For others, having their family photos and tax info lost is the worst thing that can happen.

Apple originally erred on the side of security but people who lost data got upset. Now they're more in the middle, and privacy and security advocates are upset. There are rumors Apple has considered adding encryption to backups, which would increase security but also increase loss again.

My personal preference for backups would be fail safe by default but fail secure as an option for people who care enough to go in and set it. That adds significant architectural complexity, but ultimately I think it's the best solution for everyone, in every geography, going forward.

Should Apple offer privacy-first services for Android and Windows?

There have been some suggestions that Apple should, for example, make iMessage and FaceTime for Windows and Android because encrypted communications for everyone is the moral, ethical thing to do.

Adding hundreds of millions, if not potentially billions of new users to Apple's iMessage servers would be the dictionary definition of non-trivial. That's especially true for Apple, which has been knocked for both its services and its cross-platform apps for over a decade.

Viable business model not withstanding — because this would be for the moral imperative, right? — I'm also not sure that singling Apple — and making them a target — out is best for any of us.

Better for everyone would be to apply loud, consistent pressure to every major messaging network until they all enable end-to-end encryption by default.

That said, if Apple could figure out a viable business model, or if iMessage and FaceTime becomes more valuable as services than incentives, I'd hope Apple would flip that cross-platform switch before it's too late. See: BlackBerry, Messenger.

Should Apple ban Google and Facebook from iOS?

An equal but opposite argument has been made that, rather than crossing platforms, Apple should shut them out. In other words, Apple should ban Facebook and Google from the App Store so that those companies can no longer use iOS as a platform to harvest and exploit user data from iPhone and iPad owners.

Unless Apple black lists the Facebook and Google domains at the root level of the iOS internet stack, people who want those services on iPhone or iPad could use Safari or a third-party browser wrapper to use them. That's how people are used to accessing those services on the desktop anyway.

Beyond that, Apple already faces a lot of scrutiny when it comes to what the App Store policies are and how they enforce them — or fail to enforce them.

Preventing people from downloading any app that supports any business that harvests user data, including Facebook — which includes WhatsApp and Instagram — Google — including YouTube, Waze, and Gmail — Uber, Amazon, Twitter, and many of the most popular apps ever made, could not only make the App Store inhospitable or even downright user-hostile, but it could open Apple up to anti-trust investigations — remember the great Google Voice pocket veto scandal of ought nine?

Apple, as a company, also has a consistent policy of staying as engaged as possible with problematic entities an areas because that's how Apple thinks it can best influence, advocate, and push for change.

It would be far better for everyone, especially long term, if Apple's commitment to encrypted messaging and privacy results in a truly private Google and Facebook messenger, and more responsible Google and Facebook apps.

What about—?!

What about Apple and Google Search? What about Apple and China? What about Apple and cross platform services? What about Apple and App Store app abuses?

Those aren't just valid questions. They're important ones. They're the kinds of questions that, when any company champions privacy, have to be asked for that company to become more than just a champion, but an example — an agent for change.

Rene Ritchie
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Rene Ritchie is one of the most respected Apple analysts in the business, reaching a combined audience of over 40 million readers a month. His YouTube channel, Vector, has over 90 thousand subscribers and 14 million views and his podcasts, including Debug, have been downloaded over 20 million times. He also regularly co-hosts MacBreak Weekly for the TWiT network and co-hosted CES Live! and Talk Mobile. Based in Montreal, Rene is a former director of product marketing, web developer, and graphic designer. He's authored several books and appeared on numerous television and radio segments to discuss Apple and the technology industry. When not working, he likes to cook, grapple, and spend time with his friends and family.

15 Comments
  • DuckDuckGo works very well as a search engine. I have used it for over a year and don't miss Google at all. Signal Private Messenger works very well as a cross-platform messaging app.
  • Can't say I had the same experience. I tried using DuckDuckGo but got frustrated with some of the search results. I like Signal though
  • Try StartPage - it gets the Google results for you, anonymously. Perfect.
  • Oh nice! Thanks for the suggestion, I'm going to try that out now
  • Unless Apple buys DDG and makes DDG the default search app, replacing Google, it won’t get traction. We know from Maps that
    * DDG, as a default Apple Search, will clobber Google.
    * Good enough is just fine for search.
    So why your hesitation, Rene?
  • Not really such how much it would "clobber" Google, many PC users download Chrome and even a lot of iPhone users download Chrome as well, both which have Google as the default search. "Good enough" search depends on what you're searching for. If I'm looking for general information, or looking for a website, a good enough search works fine. But I'm a programmer, and sometimes to solve a problem I have to make some interesting searches to find the right results, that's where Google can shine and others can falter. All depends on the use case.
  • “I'm by no means false-ing any equivalencies here — there is absolutely no comparison between the two governments and their track records.“ C’mon, Rene: there sure ARE comparisons between the two. Why such an unequivocal denial? Are you/is iMore really THAT afraid of the reactionary, so-called USA “patriots” who will troll you that you feel compelled to act “pro-USA politically correct?! Or are you really just as ignorant of USA history and our current reality?!
  • Only care enough to type that I don’t care.
  • What Apple should do is allow people to set default apps. Let the user decide. What a novel idea.
  • I'm all for this, but on the subject of search engines, you can already change the default search engine, however I don't know whether it changes it for Siri though.
  • I use bing. I am a Microsoft 365 user. My iPhone has all the apple'ish apps like safari, etc all tucked away, and I use edge, outlook etc. I think that apple should use bing as their search engine. They (apple) have been collaborating with MS for a while now on different things so it makes sense. Anything to get away from google. ALSO, please apple, release imessage and facetime as windows store apps, and charge money. Make money where you would not otherwise. It's not going to hurt your PC sales, and pull in a few million a year in easy income.
  • A few million a year in easy income? Only if they price them at $1,000. No one is making "a few million a year in easy income" on the Windows store. The store is only available to about half of all Windows users, and only a small percentage of that 50% is actually using it. Plus, PC sales have been declining for the last 8 years. Plus, how many Windows users actually NEED iMessage and FaceTime? There is no way Apple would ever do that. Nor do they need to. At this point, there is no reason to chase the shrinking Windows market. Apple already has far more market share right now than 10% of 25% of 50% of Windows PC users. You might as well wish for Microsoft to port Office to Linux. If Apple ever decides to port those apps (which IMO will never happen), it would be to Android.
  • Then why does article exist? Apple is a consumer electrics company. Not a Goverment, not our parents.
  • Nice follow up piece, Rene. Going back to the first article, Apple's calls for privacy regulations, it should be noted that many of the comments had more to do with Tim Cook, and his apparent hypocrisy, than Apple as a company. Cook wants to tell other company's how to run their business, and call on the government no less, and all the while benefiting from those same companies. Why does he not just focus on Apple and building the very services, in house, that he has issue with? Why cry to regulators in the west, but still allow WeChat to populate the iPhone in China? Per The Verge, "Tencent scored a zero out of 100 for WeChat’s lack of freedom of speech protection and lack of end-to-end encryption in a 2016 Amnesty International report on user privacy. Tencent doesn’t disclose when the government requests user data and gives no detail about the kind of encryption, if any, it employs." If Tim Cook feels so strongly about privacy and regulations, where is his speech on WeChat while he's in Beijing?? Why has he not called for Apple to block the app, something he can have direct and immediate influence on?? We know why .. money. If that app is unavailable on iPhone, sales plummet there even further and that device becomes irrelevant in that market. Is that a sacrifice Cook is willing to make? Would he give up such an incredible market over his supposed privacy advocacy? We all know the answer is absolutely not. Cook is a charlatan, an emperor with no clothes, a paper tiger.
  • I'm an Android user and I will not change. I have played and used for years Apple devices and did enjoy it but it wasn't for me. However, the one thing I miss is iMessage. Most all of my friends and family are on iPhones and I loved the functionality it brought. I would happily pay a monthly fee for the right to use this on my Android device. Come on Apple... take my money.