It's made for a very small playlist that I can listen to.

7.7 worked perfectly. I installed version 8, connected my iPhone 3G, BSOD and reboot. I have no Logitech software at all...(not that that should matter...)

Tried again, same story. Uninstalled 8, reinstalled 7.7, and I get the ".itl file cannot be opened because it was created with a newer version of iTunes" error.

I'm trying to love Apple, but these increasingly failed launches are worrying me. "Vista user with an apple portable device" is not a rare scenario, and really should be taken through Quality Assurance.

So... now I can't listen to any of my music purchased through the iTunes Store, I can't sync my iPhone.

Apple, you're looking more and more unstable as 2008 progresses. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but today's press conference was absolutely unnecessary; these were minor product line changes, not something worth throwing an "event." Please invest more in QA and less in these events. They're great when you introduce a new produce, i.e. iPhone... but a new version of old software and minor changes in your music players? Not a press event.

Thanks so much for listening, we appreciate you and wish you luck on what I'm sure is not a fun night for you.

-b-

Pandora doesn't use aggregate listener information. It uses the music genome project.

Additionally, genius recommendations at least can check for non-iTunes store purchases on your library, which the old system couldn't do. You had ot hope that it popped up and then you could push "already own". But like it never had any idea about my jazz collection because it was all ripped in, and thus it had no idea I had it all.

The Genius Sidebar is the uh, My Apple Store or My Itunes or whatever option that used to be in iTunes pre-8. At least that's what it seems to be. It basically recommends stuff from iTS based on what you're looking at/listening to.

The Genius Playlist works if you click on a song and then click the Genius button in the lower right of the iTunes window. It then makes a playlist of songs on your PC that are somehow related to the one you clicked on. I presume this is done using some sort of Pandora-esque aggregate listener information iTunes's service collects if you have Genius turned on.

It works just the same, regardless if you download it from udpates or http://www.apple.com/itunes

Why are you waiting for it to come out in updates?

Sadly though, genius only seems to work for songs in the iTunes store. So it won't work for The Beatles or AC/DC. Although it oddly works for Oasis (even though all their old albums have been removed from the iTunes store).

I'm guessing apple explicitly disabled Genius from working with The Beatles and AC/DC, since there shouldn't be any reason why the artist would need to be in the iTunes store for Genius to work on it.