Comments on: UPDATED: TomTom Turn-by-Turn Navigation for iPhone Beginning to Appear in International App Stores http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/ More of everything iPhone and iPad Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:03:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: WyldPhoenix http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-81794 WyldPhoenix Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:09:46 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-81794 <p>Its already available on Rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/286929030/TomTom<em>South</em>Africa.ipa</p> Its already available on Rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/286929030/TomTomSouthAfrica.ipa

]]> By: Matt http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-72339 Matt Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:44:11 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-72339 <p>blah blah, after all that they bring it out in like 1,6 countries, south africa please, come now its been months its such a waste.</p> blah blah, after all that they bring it out in like 1,6 countries, south africa please, come now its been months its such a waste.

]]> By: Miggs http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-70488 Miggs Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:35:05 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-70488 <p>I have navigon on my iPhone already, and I have just dowloaded tomtom as yet tt is not very customisable, it has speed camera warnings but you can only select on or off, voices are restricted to just the standard preset ones, navigon also offers lane guidance for busy highway junctions, this is an option on the stand alone tt's but alas not on the iPhone version, I will be keeping both on my phone and I will use tt primarily, but navigon is there as a back up</p> I have navigon on my iPhone already, and I have just dowloaded tomtom as yet tt is not very customisable, it has speed camera warnings but you can only select on or off, voices are restricted to just the standard preset ones, navigon also offers lane guidance for busy highway junctions, this is an option on the stand alone tt’s but alas not on the iPhone version, I will be keeping both on my phone and I will use tt primarily, but navigon is there as a back up

]]> By: bs259 http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-70124 bs259 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:25:15 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-70124 <p>Does anybody know if real time traffic will be added to the software package, even for a monthly or yearly fee? I spoke to a rep at TomTom and he said he thinks it will be added but he wasn't sure. For me the real time traffic is the most important part of any GPS application</p> Does anybody know if real time traffic will be added to the software package, even for a monthly or yearly fee? I spoke to a rep at TomTom and he said he thinks it will be added but he wasn’t sure. For me the real time traffic is the most important part of any GPS application

]]> By: palmprojeff http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69877 palmprojeff Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:58:25 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69877 <p>today was a clouwdy day it jumped around a lot</p> today was a clouwdy day it jumped around a lot

]]> By: palmprojeff http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69666 palmprojeff Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:28:49 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69666 <p>I downloaded the app yesterday and I traveled all over Brooklyn queens and the Bronx and Riverdale NY. I must tel you that not once did it lose the gps signal even btw. Tall buildings. I have the other gps programs and they dance around like a drunk. So if you are going to download a gps app. Download tom-tom The map interface is simple but it works flawlessly. It is more expensive but it works. I paid for all of them and they are not worth .99 cents. I hope with time tomtom is going to update this app without charging add. Money. I think I don’t need to buy the cradle because it’s working fine without it. If tom tom could add commercial veichels. and street names. and better way to work with contacts. then my life is complete</p> I downloaded the app yesterday and I traveled all over Brooklyn queens and the Bronx and Riverdale NY. I must tel you that not once did it lose the gps signal even btw. Tall buildings. I have the other gps programs and they dance around like a drunk. So if you are going to download a gps app. Download tom-tom The map interface is simple but it works flawlessly. It is more expensive but it works. I paid for all of them and they are not worth .99 cents. I hope with time tomtom is going to update this app without charging add. Money. I think I don’t need to buy the cradle because it’s working fine without it. If tom tom could add commercial veichels. and street names. and better way to work with contacts. then my life is complete

]]> By: Aurora http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69434 Aurora Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:48:47 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69434 <p>@ Rick I'm Canadian too. Some areas around the rural areas of Ontario don't have great cellular reception so this app is great for that. Also great for US travel so you don't have to pay data fees. Packing a separate GPS device is a nuisance. You carry your iPhone everywhere anyways.</p> @ Rick I’m Canadian too. Some areas around the rural areas of Ontario don’t have great cellular reception so this app is great for that. Also great for US travel so you don’t have to pay data fees. Packing a separate GPS device is a nuisance. You carry your iPhone everywhere anyways.

]]> By: Aurora http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69430 Aurora Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:36:18 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69430 <p>The Tom Tom Navigator app for Palm Treo 650 and the Windows based Palm Treo 750 both fit in a 1GB SD card for the entire map of N.America including Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. The software including car kit (bluetoothed GPS receiver, SD card, and window mount) cost $299. I still have both but use neither since my upgrade to the iPhone. Looking forward to this new app. </p> The Tom Tom Navigator app for Palm Treo 650 and the Windows based Palm Treo 750 both fit in a 1GB SD card for the entire map of N.America including Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. The software including car kit (bluetoothed GPS receiver, SD card, and window mount) cost $299. I still have both but use neither since my upgrade to the iPhone. Looking forward to this new app. 

]]> By: Mike http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69391 Mike Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:10:42 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69391 <p>Hope this is coming to South Africa soon....our app store here is pathetic, at least one decent app might brighten it up.</p> Hope this is coming to South Africa soon….our app store here is pathetic, at least one decent app might brighten it up.

]]> By: Ezekiel06 http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69376 Ezekiel06 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:23:55 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69376 <p>Very quick video review I found.</p> <p>http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/tomtom-navigation-for-iphone-3g-and-3gs-arrives/</p> Very quick video review I found.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/tomtom-navigation-for-iphone-3g-and-3gs-arrives/

]]> By: Poop Smells Good http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69361 Poop Smells Good Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:58:53 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69361 <p>Is the car mount adjustable? For those have have them, who wants to deal with taking the phone out of it's protective case every time you want to mount it?</p> Is the car mount adjustable? For those have have them, who wants to deal with taking the phone out of it’s protective case every time you want to mount it?

]]> By: Rick http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69299 Rick Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:59:00 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69299 <p>I am very tempted. I have been holding off on buying a separate GPS unit and living with Google maps when required. This IQ Route feature looks nice, but I am to assume it requires data access. This is fine for me up here in Canada, but I usually have my data roaming off when I drive in the US (way too expensive). So, will TomTom revert back to traditional routing if there is no data access? Also, 1.2 Gb seems a bit low to have map data for all of the US and Canada. Maybe I'm wrong there.</p> I am very tempted. I have been holding off on buying a separate GPS unit and living with Google maps when required. This IQ Route feature looks nice, but I am to assume it requires data access. This is fine for me up here in Canada, but I usually have my data roaming off when I drive in the US (way too expensive). So, will TomTom revert back to traditional routing if there is no data access? Also, 1.2 Gb seems a bit low to have map data for all of the US and Canada. Maybe I’m wrong there.

]]> By: Quarks http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69295 Quarks Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:47:45 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69295 <p>I've been waiting for this, but need more info:</p> <p>1) When will the mount be available?</p> <p>2) Will future map updates be free?</p> <p>I just took advantage of a TomTom sale and got 40% off a downloaded map, so may wait and see what happens with price and mount.</p> <p>I may jump quicker for a mount and App deal, but no info from TomTom on that yet.</p> <p>What was the point of the email sign up!</p> I’ve been waiting for this, but need more info:

1) When will the mount be available?

2) Will future map updates be free?

I just took advantage of a TomTom sale and got 40% off a downloaded map, so may wait and see what happens with price and mount.

I may jump quicker for a mount and App deal, but no info from TomTom on that yet.

What was the point of the email sign up!

]]> By: ilevit http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69292 ilevit Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:32:44 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69292 <p>Hopefully a Navigon vs. TomTom review is around the corner.</p> Hopefully a Navigon vs. TomTom review is around the corner.

]]> By: fastlane http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69286 fastlane Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:08:18 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69286 <p>I already have a Garmin, but this is a fantastic advancement for the iPhone (and mobility in general)!</p> <p>I'm sure I'll be considering this app someday in the not-too-distant future.</p> I already have a Garmin, but this is a fantastic advancement for the iPhone (and mobility in general)!

I’m sure I’ll be considering this app someday in the not-too-distant future.

]]> By: r4lph http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69282 r4lph Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:33:43 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69282 <p>You should not compare prices with stand alone versions. This app means you need less devices. You can now navigate, phone,play music, internet, make pictures and so one. That is a surplus where you are paying for. By the way this app lets you call POI's direct from the interface and navigate easily to all contacts from your Iphone's adresbook. Also good to know is that the Iphone makes TomTom calculate routes quicker.</p> You should not compare prices with stand alone versions. This app means you need less devices. You can now navigate, phone,play music, internet, make pictures and so one. That is a surplus where you are paying for. By the way this app lets you call POI’s direct from the interface and navigate easily to all contacts from your Iphone’s adresbook. Also good to know is that the Iphone makes TomTom calculate routes quicker.

]]> By: Joe http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69276 Joe Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:50:20 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69276 <p>Tom Tom is in the US app store, $99.00.....</p> Tom Tom is in the US app store, $99.00…..

]]> By: Steven http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69274 Steven Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:21:48 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69274 <p>So much for signing up on the tomtom site to notification when it would be available. no e-mail and it is out. Pointless to sign up!</p> So much for signing up on the tomtom site to notification when it would be available. no e-mail and it is out. Pointless to sign up!

]]> By: Roy http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69269 Roy Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:38:28 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69269 <p>TomTom Western Europe / Amercia / UK etc all live in the UK App Store now.</p> <p>UK/Ireland is £59 and Western Europe (including UK) is £79.</p> TomTom Western Europe / Amercia / UK etc all live in the UK App Store now.

UK/Ireland is £59 and Western Europe (including UK) is £79.

]]> By: SRH http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69265 SRH Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:46:13 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69265 <p>How much is this a joke really need some feedback before I buy the app.....</p> How much is this a joke really need some feedback before I buy the app…..

]]> By: Natas tmc http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69257 Natas tmc Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:30:31 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69257 <p>They have TomTom in the App store here in Canada. $99. Nice app. I'd like to get but Too steep for my taste though, I'm still paying off my 3GS and it's $900 price tag!!</p> They have TomTom in the App store here in Canada. $99. Nice app. I’d like to get but Too steep for my taste though, I’m still paying off my 3GS and it’s $900 price tag!!

]]> By: pedro http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69254 pedro Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:17:56 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69254 <p>way too expensive...for about 120 you can buy one garmin/tomtom with mount included...also you would have to plug the iphone with the power adapter all the time... #fail</p> way too expensive…for about 120 you can buy one garmin/tomtom with mount included…also you would have to plug the iphone with the power adapter all the time… #fail

]]> By: supermanfos http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69243 supermanfos Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:33:16 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69243 <p>yeah i agree with some of the people here. I will wait for someone else to jump ship first & purchase it. I need a few reviews to read first before getting rid of my tomtom. Also like "heathsnow" said I am interested in the mount system just need more details. Too early no info. on tomtom's website yet.</p> yeah i agree with some of the people here. I will wait for someone else to jump ship first & purchase it. I need a few reviews to read first before getting rid of my tomtom. Also like “heathsnow” said I am interested in the mount system just need more details. Too early no info. on tomtom’s website yet.

]]> By: meks http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69242 meks Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:29:33 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69242 <p>@CJ, the Tom Tom mount has a supplementary GPS receptor inside it.</p> @CJ, the Tom Tom mount has a supplementary GPS receptor inside it.

]]> By: heathsnow http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69237 heathsnow Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:58:04 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69237 <p>There's no reviews for the US Tom Tom yet. I'm not buying without reviews :P. Plus, is there a discount for buying the mount with the app? If so then I'm waiting for sure.</p> There’s no reviews for the US Tom Tom yet. I’m not buying without reviews :P . Plus, is there a discount for buying the mount with the app? If so then I’m waiting for sure.

]]> By: ben eubank http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69236 ben eubank Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:57:20 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69236 <p>@kilsey awesome! thanks!</p> @kilsey awesome! thanks!

]]> By: kilsey http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69235 kilsey Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:55:41 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69235 <p>@ben eubank as requested: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=326075661&mt=8</p> <p>Enjoy!</p> @ben eubank as requested: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=326075661&mt=8

Enjoy!

]]> By: ben eubank http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69233 ben eubank Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:50:34 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69233 <p>@kilsey... can you put the link up? can't find it yet...</p> @kilsey… can you put the link up? can’t find it yet…

]]> By: kilsey http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69232 kilsey Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:32:00 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69232 <p>Now live in the US, $99 for US and Canada.</p> <p>Too pricey, but I'm still going to do it. :)</p> Now live in the US, $99 for US and Canada.

Too pricey, but I’m still going to do it. :)

]]> By: Andrew http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69230 Andrew Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:22:57 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69230 <p>OK I finished downloading and installing TomTom Western Europe .. there is no TomTom Traffic info included nor does there seem to be anything about Safety Camerea locations. Bit disappointing ...</p> OK I finished downloading and installing TomTom Western Europe .. there is no TomTom Traffic info included nor does there seem to be anything about Safety Camerea locations. Bit disappointing …

]]> By: Rajiv http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69229 Rajiv Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:21:56 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69229 <p>Why wouldn't TomTom have a big advertising push to correspond with these app releases?</p> <p>On a side note (as I'm not a Apple Developer), can developers delay the release of their app or does Apple have full control to release as soon as they're done testing it?</p> Why wouldn’t TomTom have a big advertising push to correspond with these app releases?

On a side note (as I’m not a Apple Developer), can developers delay the release of their app or does Apple have full control to release as soon as they’re done testing it?

]]> By: Andrew http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69218 Andrew Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:07:00 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69218 <p>Downloading the Western Europe version now from the Swiss iTunes website - it's 1.4GBytes!</p> Downloading the Western Europe version now from the Swiss iTunes website – it’s 1.4GBytes!

]]> By: Andy http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69214 Andy Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:48:13 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69214 <p>Awesome! Will hopefully be able to ditch the TomTom one if this is as good :D</p> Awesome! Will hopefully be able to ditch the TomTom one if this is as good :D

]]> By: Randal L. Schwartz http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69208 Randal L. Schwartz Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:42:54 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69208 <p>Before you drop $100 on this, give http://itunes.com/app/roadee a try... $2 for spoken turn-by-turn instructions using OpenStreetMap (the wikipedia of maps). Yeah, coverage varies for OSM, but if you don't like it, you can always make it better. :)</p> Before you drop $100 on this, give http://itunes.com/app/roadee a try… $2 for spoken turn-by-turn instructions using OpenStreetMap (the wikipedia of maps). Yeah, coverage varies for OSM, but if you don’t like it, you can always make it better. :)

]]> By: Martin http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69206 Martin Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:20:33 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69206 <p>Hopefully this means we will see the hardware mount soon! I wonder how the combo of hardware software will work. Weren't they talking about discounts for buying both together?</p> Hopefully this means we will see the hardware mount soon! I wonder how the combo of hardware software will work. Weren’t they talking about discounts for buying both together?

]]> By: Michael http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69205 Michael Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:15:18 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69205 <p>Available over here in the German App Store since 2 hours now. 100€ for the Western Europe version.</p> Available over here in the German App Store since 2 hours now. 100€ for the Western Europe version.

]]> By: Adam http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69204 Adam Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:13:42 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69204 <p>At that price I would never buy it. That's so ridiculous. That's more ridiculous than more than $1000 for Adobe's creative suite. I'm literally pooping right now from reading this. LOL...</p> At that price I would never buy it. That’s so ridiculous. That’s more ridiculous than more than $1000 for Adobe’s creative suite. I’m literally pooping right now from reading this. LOL…

]]> By: Vnes http://www.imore.com/2009/08/16/tomtom-turnbyturn-navigation-iphone-beginning-international-app-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-69202 Vnes Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:09:11 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=10485#comment-69202 <p>This is nice... Lets just hope the US version is not that faraway. i can't wait for this app to come tot he US.</p> This is nice… Lets just hope the US version is not that faraway. i can’t wait for this app to come tot he US.

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