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Samsung tries to get out ahead of iPhone 6s Plus with Samsung Galaxy S6 edge Plus... er... +

Samsung held one of their legendary Unpacked events today so they could showcase the bigger Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ and better Samsung Galaxy Note 5. So, what's new about the new devices, and what does it mean for Apple and the upcoming iPhones 6S?

First, and inside-baseball to be sure, Samsung decided to release all the news and lift all the embargoes for the Galaxy S6 edge+ and Galaxy S Note 5 at the same exact moment the event started, which forced a lot of attention splitting and double duty for those of us trying to keep up with everything. Next time, maybe stagger them?

Anyway, Samsung has always been like the crazy sibling in the smart phone family. They'll try almost anything and everything, and while some of it makes you palm as many faces as you have available, some of it genuinely is interesting and does help everyone get to the future a little faster. The best of Samsung, in my opinion, is when they're not aping Apple but driving technology and forcing everyone else, including Apple, to keep up.

So yeah, I'll make the prerequisite jokes about Galaxy S6 edge+ being needlessly similar to iPhone 6s Plus in branding, or about the keyboard cover (which turns out not to be Bluetooth like the Ryan Seacrest's Typo but capacitive like the dozens we've seen in the tiny-town booths at CES every year. But I also want to focus on the positives.

The Galaxy S6 came out about 6 months after the iPhone 6 and Samsung really did manage to produce an incredibly capable camera. The edge 6+ and Note 5 are coming out 11 months after the iPhone 6 and, if performance matches marketing, it sounds like Samsung has used the time to make the camera even better.

Previously, more megapixels meant smaller pixels, as manufacturers would just chop up a sensor to get a bigger number on the box, lowlight performance and image noise be damned. Now we're starting to see higher megapixel cameras that not only preserve quality but improve it, and allow for things like downsampling, functional digital zoom, and cropping while still maintaining acceptable sizes.

Comparing the latest Samsung cameras to 11 month old Apple cameras is a bit silly, since the next iPhones are only a month away and Apple has been improving their cameras every year as well, but credit where it's due—Samsung really is helping push mobile photography forward now.

Likewise wireless charging. You can argue about power efficiencies and that you still having to plug the other end into an outlet, but the pieces are falling in place. And like with LTE and NFC, it's good to have Samsung pushing it forward.

Apple already uses wireless charging—and OLED screens—on the Watch, of course, and since wireless charging for metal backed devices has just been announced, it's not hard to imagine that Apple will decide those technologies are ready for the iPhone.

The Galaxy Note, however, does lose some differentiation as well, though likely only for the hardest of the hardcore Android customers: No more user-swappable battery or SD card support. Luckily, though, it also loses the faux stitched-leather backing that went with them.

And in case you were wondering if Samsung had taken the time to clean up the industrial design—that's a negative.

So what does all this mean for the iPhone? Apple has to keep pushing ahead with the camera, because that's not only one of the most important features to most people, it's also now one of the most competitive. It also means Apple has to keep their eye on technologies like wireless charging because they'll go from niche to necessary in the blink of a cycle and catching them at the perfect time is key to Apple's feature-sets-over-chipsets strategy.

As to the rest, Samsung still comes off equal parts forward thinking and unnecessarily duplicative. It's like Lex Luthor, who builds amazing power suits but still keeps trying to clone Superman... and keeps getting bizarro. Just focus on the power suits already.

Keep it locked to to Android Central for everything you need to know about the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ and Samsung Galaxy Note 5, but if you're even considering either phone, do yourself a favor and wait a month to see what Apple has to offer with the iPhone 6s.

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Rene Ritchie

Rene Ritchie is one of the most respected Apple analysts in the business, reaching a combined audience of over 40 million readers a month. His YouTube channel, Vector, has over 90 thousand subscribers and 14 million views and his podcasts, including Debug, have been downloaded over 20 million times. He also regularly co-hosts MacBreak Weekly for the TWiT network and co-hosted CES Live! and Talk Mobile. Based in Montreal, Rene is a former director of product marketing, web developer, and graphic designer. He's authored several books and appeared on numerous television and radio segments to discuss Apple and the technology industry. When not working, he likes to cook, grapple, and spend time with his friends and family.

  • Your hatred for Samsung is so entertaining. If it wasn't for Samsung, iPhone wouldn't be what it is today.
  • You mean, if it wasn't for Apple, Samsung wouldn't be what it is today.
  • Samsung has made Apple try harder. Especially after Steve Jobs death.
  • LOL, well, lets see... before the original iPhone, all Samsung phones looked the same. Small screen, lots of buttons, etc. Samsung phones were like all other phones, which the iPhone revolutionized. So there's that.
    Another point is that Samsung makes parts for Apple, to Apple specifications and designs. Apple is the customer so Samsung makes a fortune off of Apple which is a big part of Samsung's business. While they need each other, Apple could potentially use other chip manufacturers, while Samsung will never have a larger customer than Apple for it's chip division. So no, Samsung wouldn't be what it is today without Apple much more so. Sounds like you think making a larger screen phone is a big deal (i.e. iPhone 6, 6+), but that's a funny misconception because Apple was making huge screened touchscreen portables since 2010. They called them iPads and they were giant iPhones without the phone part. Not a big deal. Making a 5" touchscreen computer with a cellular antenna isn't a big deal and Apple simply held out until they saw the market shift to desire those sized phones. Samsung showed that there was a market, but that doesn't mean Samsung is to thank for large iPhones for any technical reason.
  • Excellently crafted answer. Samsung also created the phablet category, which led to the iPhone 6+. So there's that too.
  • "before the original iPhone, all Samsung phones looked the same. Small screen, lots of buttons" are you being serious? and before Samsung Note series all the iphones looked the same the same-sized rectangular boxes. Samsung is still pushing the envelop with it's Edge series which sold so well that it ran into the trouble of supply not being able to keep up with the demand.
  • Also pushing the envelope with it's remotely hackable fingerprint sensor: Won't happen with Apple.
  • Actually, Samsung responded to this already, stating that the Galaxy S5 that was implicated in the vulnerability is not affected. Better luck next time, fanboy.
  • Oh, okay. Samsung says that their product is not affected, but the hackers say otherwise. Hmmm, who to believe. Drink that kool-aid, fandroid.
  • I can't, you drank all of it, fanboy ;=] baaaa
  • Anybody that thinks Samsung is the pioneer of the modern cell phone is misinformed. Sent from the iMore App
  • I can draw you the same pretty pictures for iphone sizes before Samsung Note's success while Jobs was babbling about poeple not needing bigger and Supriseeeeee, iphone 6+ after Samsung Note.
  • They can't counter you on this. Because that is exactly how hypocrit Apple is. Today they say people like small screen. And their loyal fan club all agree. Later when they realize their competitor success and they start come up with bigger screen. And their fan club still agree. Where is their principle and dignity? Posted from my Samsung Galaxy S6
  • Yeah, just like my car is a bus without the extra seats. The iPad was not a phone.
  • I thought the same thing when I read that comment! Sent from the iMore App
  • Do you even know how big Samsung is? Google it. You make it sound like Apple's Samsung's financial savior. Fact is, Samsung has always been a huge business with deep pockets. Even before the Apple business relationships. I work in the big data and networking industry, and it's amazing how many brilliant engineers I've met who work for Samsung. They don't just build phones, they work with others to create network architectures shaped for the future. Google the key words "IMS Architecture LTE" when you're bored one day. Samsung had some heavy hands in making LTE unified and what it is today. Back to the subject, I actually like this Rene article. I'm the Apple fanboy that dislikes a lot of Rene's write ups because I feel it makes all Apple fans look bad. He also riles up the wrong type of Apple fanboys. The elitist, whining, nitpicking, I'm better than you, it doesn't exist if it isn't Apple, fanboys. This article was good though. He sarcastically pointed out the similarities, laughed at their shortcomings, and praised Samsung for features like wireless charging and the camera improvements. He also seemed to hope that Apple was watching. Alluding that you have wireless charging and OLED in the Watch, consider using it for phones too because something that seems unneeded now, can be a standard feature due to market demands in a blink of an eye.... Sort of like the big screened iPhones inspired by Samsung. I'm sorry but you have half eaten crab Apples for testicles if you aren't admitting that Samsung inspired the phablet market and eventually the iPhone 6+. Your explanation of the iPad being the inspiration of the bigger phones is just stupid.
  • The industrial design thing is such a stupid thing to compare. Not because of design, which I can agree with, but because Apple doesn't have to worry about half that stuff DUE TO THE FACT that their phone do not have as many features. You don't have to worry about taking time and resources to align things that don't exist. Infrared sensor? Not on iPhone. Wireless charging? Not there. Heart rate monitor? Nope. Fast charging? Nada. Plus all the extra sensors that Samsung has built in. Those things take up room. Precious amounts of it. Apple doesn't need to worry about aligning stuff because they use so much less of it. It is comparing apples and oranges. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Yup. Agree. And my phone still sexier then any iPhone out there with the ugly antenna line stuck on their face. Posted from my Samsung Galaxy S6
  • Sexier??, NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Definitely. The design of the iPhone has been on a downward slope since the 4.
  • BABY!!!!!!
  • For all the good things that Samsung does in their phones they also have unnecessary gimmicks like the heat rate monitor. Posted via the iMore App for Android via my Moto G 4G
  • Really doesn't matter what some Apple-hating loser thinks. What matters is what real Samsung fans think. And what I've read today seems to indicate that Samsung fans are abandoning ship. Go play outside and make some friends.
  • Ironic rant coming from a Samsung-hating Apple fanboy.
  • NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Don't worry Rene, I'm sending some more hemorrhoid cream your way for you recurrent butthurt syndrome.
  • When Apple is spanking Samsung in flagship sales, not sure how Rene is butthurt. His job is to champion Apple and sometimes point out how crappy the competition is. This site is called IMORE and it's Apple-centric for Apple fans. Why are you here anyway? Seems anyone taking the time to post comments against Rene on a pro-Apple website is the one who is butthurt.
  • Is his job to "champion" apple, or cover apple? Is he an apple employee and thus can not critique apple and review competing products objectively?
  • the only thing Rene is championing is the art of being ridiculed. Its to the point that AC writers have to come over to either correct him or to comment on his his pathological obsession with Samsung.
  • The only thing that you champion is trolling. Nothing constructive is ever in your posts, only destructive. Why don't you go back to your android sites and stay away from here?
  • well the blind-following fanboys like you aren't gonna criticize Rene for his ridiculous posts, somebody has to.
  • This is not a Apple FAN site . This is a Apple NEWS site. And internet is free place. Anybody can visit the site and provide their argument! Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Hmm.... You sure seem to be fixated on that part of Rene's anatomy? Jelly maybe?
  • I always know where to come for all my Samsung information needs... iMore!
    In all seriousness, I wish you gave other android manufacturers anywhere near the time you give Samsung. I would honestly like to read some balanced input on companies like Motorola, that while not selling like Samsung actually are doing new and favorable things like MotoMaker and the pricing structure of the Moto G.
  • Until the day that the brilliantly effective Samsung ads mocking iphone users haunts his dreams and fuels his tantrums, he won't be able to shake off his obsession with Samsung.
    I also think its crazy of you to expect someone like Rene to write something that is "balanced"
  • I am totally for opinionated articles. But the horse is dead, the stick is broken and his hands are bloody.
  • He's totally intimidated by Samsung's innovation.
  • LMAO, Samsung innovation? Such as?? Their catch-up me too fingerprint scanner after that joke in the GS5? Their copy-cat "you were right" build design without replaceable batteries that mimics the build of the 4 year old iPhone 4 (glass back, metal frame)? Hmm, I'm struggling to find innovation here. All I see is Samsung continuing to follow Apple in lock-step.
    Try harder....
  • Fast wireless charging.
    *drops microphone*
  • Oooh-kkkayyyy... better leave that microphone alone there buddy ;¬)
  • Compared to Apple's wireless charging? Right.
  • If you think inductive charging is a "Samsung Innovation", arguing with you doesn't make any sense... Just saying.
  • Fast wireless charging is. With the Note 5, Samsung has decreased the amount of time to fully wirelessly charge it by 30%. But Apple would know nothing about that.
  • Don't need it because my iPhone charge lasts all day and I never have to plug it in and be a "Wall Hugger". I had the S5, I would have to charge it all night and in the afternoon. 6 Plus, just overnight, no matter how late I go to bed. I will say the waterproofing was pretty cool though.
  • The edge screen innovation has been well received too.
  • I think that was popularly referred to as glare screen. 2 line of reflected light from both corners of the screen. Kind of like a neat border on top of your videos and text. Do people really want their content to curve away from them???
  • They were smart enough to pick up LoopPay so they have a payment platform that works almost everywhere.
  • Apart from Europe where we have abandoned mag stripes many years go.... Nice try
  • U can never win with these Android/Samscum Sycophants.
    They never allow Facts to get in their way, with their Hate for Apple.
    They Attack Rene who is just doing his Job as a Journalist & have been Vindicated Over and Over again because the truth was always on his side.
    Google and Samscum have got no Shame & should not be rewarded 4 their Thievery. (Fact) Guess who has like 18% of Devices Shipped Globally, but still makes all the Profit is the Industry ? "Rene & Apple is always Right"
  • Do you ask such questions when Samsung involves in Anti-Apple Marketing?
    Go to some youtube page about this launch. I am sure Android fan boys will be talking more about Apple than they are going to be taking about Samsung/Android. Actually I would say iMore is giving undue attention to Samsung and actually benefiting it. Samsung does not deserve it. Its an insult to all the work Apple puts into their products. iOS VS Android is a fair comparison because Google does do some work on Android. But an Android phone VS iPhone is just not a fair comparison.
  • Yeah Samsung's constant mentioning of the iPhone back when I was deciding on a replacement for my Motorola Droid Razr helped switch me back to iOS for a phone. They were constantly blabbing about Apple in their commercials so I decided to stop by the Apple store and spend some time with the iPhone 5 before deciding.
  • Rene is not a commenter on a youtube page.
  • You are right about that. :-)
  • @m4mario, that's not true at all. if you go to imore's sister side, Android central, most comments are contained within the android platform..people either praise the new samsung product or hate them but only uncommonly you will see people posting iphone vs samsung comments unprovoked... Rene writes anti-Samsung rants atleast twice a week while over at AC, anti-apple articles happen probably twice a year. One thing I agree with you is the relentless (and i personally think) borderline pathological hate/attention that Rene gives to samsung.
  • Not sure of AC, I've never checked it out. I remember seeing many Samsung related youtube videos and every comment on the first page would be Apple related hate comments.
  • Yes well if we hold Rene to the same level as youtube trolls, then you're is equally childish on both sides =P
  • AC is the far better site. Better articles, less clickbait, and generally more honest than iMore.
  • "only uncommonly you will see people posting iphone vs samsung comments unprovoked...".
    You're joking, right? Lol!
  • No, Im not joking, Lol!
  • Then you don't read comments on AC.
  • I sure do.
  • Actually you should feel good about it. Because people always targeting the best to beat. And in this case Apple is Samsung biggest treat. And samsung is also Apple's biggest treat :D Posted from my Samsung Galaxy S6
  • You are partly right, but we could rephrase it a little better . Apple's biggest threat is Google. Samsung's biggest threat is Lg, moto, other android OEM's from China. Samsung individually is really no threat to Apple. But overall android is a threat to apple.
  • All you guys are so damn stupid, when Rene post one of these, there's more comments and replies than any other post, so that creates more internet traffic through iMore and that means more revenue for them, and you dumb ass android fanboys come through here crying about it, but i got to give it to Rene he is smart!!
  • LOL calling iPhone Superman...that is hilarious.
  • Ya it's funny Rene compared a real life phenomenon to an imaginary dude.
  • I agree these Samsung bashing articles are becoming old hat but of all the Android OEMs they are the only one who has really constantly bashed Apple users for things they are now themselves doing and keep designing phones that are just different enough but still have hints of looking like the iPhone. Also though I hate Samsung LOL and would love to see LG continue to rise and Moto is doing awesome things with their phones. Sent from the iMore App
  • You must be kidding, the latest iPhones are almost a copy of the SGS4 & 5. I think you have it confused. I own both Samsung and iPhone, the Samsung GS4 and 5 were made long before the iPhone 6 and 6+. Put them side by side, same shape almost same design. No one ever complains about that???? I laugh when I hear this crap, you read and believe too much. Look and you will see, I am not telling a lie. As I stated, I own Iphone 6 and iPad mini 3, love them, I also have the Samsung devices and use the SGS6 as my daily driver. Hoping the new iPhone is something great.
  • "... Same shape..."? You mean a rectangular slab with a screen? Like every single phone since 2007? Haha jk, this is all so ridiculous. (Not aimed at you) everyone needs to calm the f down. Does any other industry have such bs bickering? (Besides sports) "Ford copied Chevy when they moved their tailpipes from the outside to the center" wah wah wah. Sent from the iMore App
  • Also the placement of the volume and power button. Posted from my Samsung Galaxy S6
  • seems like a fair critique of these new phones. I also appreciate the look at the industrial design as some people care about that (some don't). That said, I think the author was as cynical and critical of Apple (for some reason he holds Samsung to a higher standard than Apple, which is odd given this web site focus), his comparison articles may not attract so much negative attention.
  • Very good points.
  • Agreed, one-sided childish temper tantrums are not suitable for a grown a$$ self-acclaimed educator.
  • And trolling is not suited for a grown a$$ fandroid.
  • says the trolling apple fanboy. Only time i see you comment is to attack people who criticize apple. baaaaa baaaaaa
  • You don't criticize Apple, just Apple people.
  • Exactly. So im not a blind fanboy like you bashing both Samsung and whoever comes out against Apple. I criticize people who constantly post intellectually challenged rants, ie. Rene and people who blindly defend him without thinking. As you see, I don't criticize other iMore writers because they don't write dumb stuff (generally).
  • Rene comments are balanced, is fair tro recognize Samsung merits: pushing the Phone Market, thanks to samsung's Note we have now the iPhone 6+, and thanks to Google promoting we have now NFC on the iPhone (just not as useful as on Android yet), but samsung still suffering the Wacamole Launch, I was one of those which happy switched from iPhone 4S to the Samsung Note II, was a terrific experience, but with the time was also a nightmare Samsung as many hardware vendors bet high on premature obsolescence to drive more consumers to buy new devices, this dirty trick is the reason why I'm not adopting the S6 (whichever version) neither the Note 5, I need an new smartphone soon since my old note 2 is dead, but I'm not considering samsung anymore, I'm waiting for apple's new iPhone 6s Plus (or 7+) or the next Nexus just in case Apple disappoints me again (and they use to do that).
    Whatever I hope iPhone's soon to support wireless charging as well waterproofing and open NFC to developers, those are old due on the iPhone.
  • What's with the icons? The corners are different in comparison to the Galaxy S6 or Galaxy S6 Edge. Many Samsung fans come to this website looking for an argument or the opportunity to say something bad about iMore or Apple. I love technology and Samsung's lack of innovation helps the market to keep moving forward. Samsung phones have so many options but how many people take advantage of all those options? iPhones are more appealing because they are very functional. Now going back to the icons.. Well they look like cheap iOS icons. Am I wrong? Am I right? It's my opinion based on what I see and I can't be wrong just because I don't agree with a group of people. Are they right? NO! We have different preferences, different taste and different opinions. Samsung fans should be pleased with what they have but if you're not pleased then switch to iPhone or Windows phone. Please show some respect for the writer of this article because he's sharing his thoughts.
  • The Note 5 is ugly due to the extremely shiny nature of it's build. It's always going to be a mess of fingerprints on both sides. The year old iPhone 6 Plus still looks much more modern and advanced in it's design aesthetic.
  • Have you held a Samsung Galaxy S6 in your hand? It has a glass back which is less prone to fingerprints.
  • I'll be honest. I saw Samsung phones at Best Buy. I think they are nice. Android has so many options and stuff. IOS looks nicer and more streamlined. I'm sure they will ruin that soon like they did the music player. ha ha. But I honestly think i could live with a samsung phone. I like my iphone but with recent updates Apple seems to remove something i like or focus on things i'm unlikely to use. I'm not getting rid of my iphone 6 anytime soon. Probably not within the next two years but when the time comes i'll be open minded about my phone brand options.
  • Streamlined? I guess nothing says streamlined like an entire screen full of icons. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Being human and all, I don't always agree with everything, duh ... but I always the appreciate the unapologetic pursual of all things Apple. Thanks Rene!
  • I'm very much considering the Note 5 now there not plastic fake leather. The camera and pen interest me as I don't have a tablet and nor want to own to many devices. I'm just worried about software updates from Samsung and the carrier. Sent from the iMore App
  • Get out of here. Sent from the iMore App
  • Edge Plus and continuity?, Go ahead and keep copying Apple. Sent from the iMore App
  • Why the heck are there android fan nerds on here? Get a life people dam Sent from the iMore App
  • Because there is an app called iMore. Posted from my Samsung Galaxy S6
  • That explains the how, not the why, which was the question he asked originally.
  • They have nothing better to do.
  • I'd be pissed if I owned an s6 #desperatetimesdesperatemeasures for Samsung. Sent from the iMore App
  • Why? I like my S6 Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • What I think is their best upgrade is the high output wireless charging. Most wireless charging is slow, the new wireless charging on these devices has been upgraded to fast wireless charging, that is cool. The only thing I didnt like was the lack of the 128gb int storage for the USA at launch. Hoping it is available soon. I have the Note 4, dont mind the lack of sd-card but I would have to have 128 version like I have on my SGS6, iPhone 6 and iPad. I want and need int storage.
  • I was wrong, Note 5 will come with 128gb option. Love it. Sorry Samsung for speaking when should have been listening. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Samsung Pay coming next month to the US market will be available every where there are credit cards used, that is everywhere. Im curious how it will work with the new phones. I have apple pay on my iPhone 6 and have been shut down more times then I was able to use it. Samsung Pay is going to be used anywhere the normal credit card is used, time will tell.
  • What do you mean by shut down? Sent from the iMore App
  • Some stores just didn't accept Apple Pay. Don't know why. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • This is so predictable, i was already expecting this article after yesterday's Samsung announcement. But anyways, the name alone "Samsung Galaxy S6 edge Plus" makes me lose interest in this phone :)
  • Why, becuase they flat out copied Apple with the naming scheme? Samsung I9001 Galaxy S Plus 2011, April. Released 2011, July
  • I'd call it the iGalaxy 6+ just to watch iSheep heads explode everywhere. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Yeah. Because Apple guys here feel left out when the whole entire tech world giving sport light to Samsung ^^ Posted from my Samsung Galaxy S6
  • I'm gonna do something crazy here; I'm gonna comment on the actual article. I think the Note 5 & Edge Plus are both beautiful & great devices & are very logical evolutions in their flagship line. Sent from the iMore App
  • Imagine that, an on topic comment. LOL
    Yes, competition is most definitely good for the customers and I hope the camera in the S6 will push Apple to further improve the cameras in their upcoming iPhone 6s and +.
    AND give us a loud speaker that rivals the iPad's! :)
  • I found myself in an odd position and learned a valuable lesson. About two months ago my daughter dropped her iPhone 5c and demolished it. I gave her my iPhone 6 ... being the good Dad that I am! I had a trade in at Tmobile so worked a deal with them. We only owed a small amount on her 5c so paid it off. My problem was knowing the 6s was coming in a couple of months it made no sense to pick up another 6 for myself. So I decided to give the Galaxy s6 edge a go. All I can tell you is that I have never disliked a phone as much as that one. It has had to be replaced twice for glitchy software and hardware and, simply doesn't perform as advertised. The "edge" function barely works and I'm constantly having to restart the phone due to Wi-Fi issues. Lesson learned?... I should have picked up an iPhone 5s and waited out the time for the 6s to arrive. At least I would have continued on the iOS platform. Lucky for me in the end T-mobile discovered that I had a long overdue Jump that is still active. So I can give back the s6 edge and get the 6s when it arrives. A close call to be sure.
  • Sage advice, thank you. Sent from the iMore App
  • It's fine Samsung won't sell these as all the little Samsung morons won't buy it Note 5 not being sold in Europe, 6S plus? Oh that's apple Samsung copying again. Seriously times of a desperate company trying to remain relevant in the smartphone product world
  • I'm happy using Apple ecosystem but I have to agree the iphone back with the bands is not a pretty sight also. It's sad the upcoming phone will likely stick to this design. And the s6 has a stupid good camera. The s6 edge plus is the weirdest product Samsung has made. It's 2 mouthful to say and it's prolly better to call it note5 edges. Likely they want to confuse themselves with iPhone 6s Plus. Why most people will compare Samsung with Apple is the fact that these 2 are probably selling about the same number of flagships. And these 2 have been in the spit fight for the longest time. I love the Moto x but that won't sell as much with their to marketing. Sent from the iMore App
  • "Why most people will compare Samsung with Apple is the fact that these 2 are probably selling about the same number of flagships."
    No, Samsung sales of high-end phones aren't even close to Apple's. Actually, Apple outsells all Android high-end phones combined.
  • No Note 5 for Europe.....D'OH! Huuuge mistake from Samsung Sent from the iMore App