The difference between Apple and Samsung industrial design

Galaxy S9

Three years later and Samsung either doesn't care about building aligned products from the ground (or board) up, or doesn't know how. The Galaxy S9:

And here's how it compares to Apple's latest, the iPhone X.

Galaxy S8

Two years later and Samsung has to have finally gotten the ports and buttons aligned, right? Not so much. The just-announced Galaxy S8, sadly:

Galaxy S7

So, a year later, did Samsung get their ports and buttons in order? From the looks of the just-announced Galaxy S7, not so much.

The ports, microphones, speakers, jacks, and other elements still don't line up. Not even close.

Galaxy S6

It's a quote from the late Steve Jobs' father intended to help instill pride in craft. Jony Ive, Apple's senior vice president of design, has spoken numerous times about the importance and inevitability of great design as well, about the care and consideration it takes, and how people notice it even when they don't notice themselves noticing it.

Recently there was a brouhaha about a Qualcomm sticker junking up the Samsung Galaxy S6 on Verizon. You don't see a sticker like that on the iPhone 6 or any other iPhone, of course, because Apple cares more about the look of their product than the licensing fees or other considerations refusing it entails. Same with Intel Inside stickers on the Mac.

But when I looked at the picture of Samsung's product, it wasn't the sticker that bothered me so much. That, I assume, can be peeled off. It was something else I saw that bothered me, and something I can now never un-see.

It's the lack of basic alignment.

Here's the top image again, this time with lines drawn through the center points. The sticker isn't even put on straight, which seems unimaginable given modern production equipment.

I thought maybe it had something to do with the "edge" design, so I checked out the non-edge version as well.

Same thing. Since the iPhone 6 is in the same photo, the lack of basic alignment is even more noticeable. In case it was just the bottom, I took a look at the top as well.

And the side.

Almost nothing is aligned.

Some people might not care. Like painting the back of the fence or finishing the underside of the cabinet, it's a detail that only people who take tremendous pride in craft really care about. And, of course, people who look for just exactly that kind of quality.

That's because it takes an incredible amount of time and resources to achieve it. It takes an incredible amount of planning and coordination as well. It also takes the willingness to not do something if you feel doing it right is important enough.

To align everything along the edge of a device takes designing and mounting the boards in a certain way, and the ports and speakers, and the buttons and jacks, and the grills and every other detail so they all line up at exactly the right place at the end. Painstaking is likely an understatement.

Is it worth the effort? For me, as a customer, knowing that Apple had the consideration and took the time and effort to align their hardware speaks to the overall quality of their work. It reassures me that the same consideration and effort were likely spent making sure not a millimeter nor milliamp of battery space was wasted, not a nanometer of die, not a gap left around the screen, or a dead zone in the capacitive sensor.

Sure, problems crop up with every product, but like James Cameron says, when you aim unbelievably high, even your failures surpass other people's successes.

Again, I realize this won't matter to some people, and will serve as fodder for jokes for others. Software stability, some will no doubt cry. Yet bits can and are fixed. Software gets updated and services invisibly improved. Atoms, not so much. There's no magic patch that will ever bend those elements back into alignment. They, and owners, are stuck like that forever.

That's why it matters to me, and along with other things like privacy and security, better apps, Apple Stores and Apple Care, and a great Google experience and the best Microsoft experience, means it's absolutely something anyone who cares about design and quality should factor into their decision to switch to iPhone.

I had the chance to spend several evenings with the Galaxies S6 recently and while Samsung ditched a ton of differentiation to offer a more iPhone-like product. Android stalwarts will bemoan the lack of removable battery, the lack of SD card support, and the lack of waterproofing. My reaction was to bemoan the lack of deep, detail oriented design culture and pride in craft.

Because once you know the back of the fence wasn't painted, not only can you never un-know it, you can never stop wondering what else wasn't given that same care and consideration.

Rene Ritchie
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Rene Ritchie is one of the most respected Apple analysts in the business, reaching a combined audience of over 40 million readers a month. His YouTube channel, Vector, has over 90 thousand subscribers and 14 million views and his podcasts, including Debug, have been downloaded over 20 million times. He also regularly co-hosts MacBreak Weekly for the TWiT network and co-hosted CES Live! and Talk Mobile. Based in Montreal, Rene is a former director of product marketing, web developer, and graphic designer. He's authored several books and appeared on numerous television and radio segments to discuss Apple and the technology industry. When not working, he likes to cook, grapple, and spend time with his friends and family.

384 Comments
  • Seriously Rene get a life. Switch to iPhone because stuff on the Samsung doesn't line up. OK I am off to buy an iPhone because of this - not ! I would get an iPhone if I found it better for my needs not because stuff is not straight on a Samsung phone. And no I don't have a Samsung phone. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Wahhhh someone on a apple fan site made a pro-apple article. I better go whine on the comment section about it!! Sent from the iMore App
  • I know terrible right. Just seemed a wee bit silly of an article. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • now i am an apple fan and use many apple products but this article was a bit ridiculous I have been a a fan of the switch to iphone articles because most have been valuable but the samsung s6 is one of the best built android phones and a joy to use so to criticize the fact that samusing did not make everything line up in a straight line is a bit silly.
  • +1 Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • It's no accident that people who post silly comments seem to lack basic english skills.
  • Yep true. Also doesn't help that I am dyslexic and should really check what I have written about 19 times over to check it makes sense. As you can imagine this can be rather annoying and frustrating. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Just ignore him dude. He's an ass.
  • english spells with a capital E...dont accuse others for your own inefficiencies
  • **"English" is spelt with a capital "E". Don't accuse others for your own inefficiencies. There, I fixed that for you, Captain Irony.
  • There are many Apple fans who are so because of the incredibly meticulous attention to detail Apple products often get, and it's this obsession with design on Apple's part, and lack of on Samsung's part, that this article is referencing. You don't have to care, but the article has a right to exists on a site like this. I too am surprised that nothing on the Samsung is aligned, shows they didn't bother to work on the engineering to that degree of precision to make sure it did. It goes along with and proves Apple's age old principle - that even things most customers will never see or notice should be done perfect and beautiful, etc...
  • The same thing some people feel about cars. Real car buyers will buy a car just for the lines.
  • Another idiot isheep!
  • Cool comment. Infantile and devoid of substance. Grow up. Sent from the iMore App
  • Oh sorry your little feelings were hurt. Facts are hard to handle. But your response comment is very grown up and full of substance. Keep up the good work.
  • MORON!!!!!!
  • Great comment, very thought out and adds a lot to the discussion. You are obviously very smart.
  • Nice. And you're not an ignorant Samsung Sheep or Fandroid? Seems when any idiot fanboy has no response, like a child they resort to name calling and yelling. You guys are so pathetically amusing.
  • Sorry but to all smartphone owners iPhone, BlackBerry, Android, or Windows you all gonna hang this fine crafted beautiful looking devices on a wall or you gonna use it for what it was meant to be used for....a smartphone!!!!! I will be honest but what good is having a beautiful phone when as soon as that baby drops you better have $100-$150 to fix the screen and whatever else got damaged! This article is a joke and so is the ranting!
  • You can have both. Have functionality. And have art that you carry with you. Like most nice things, it can get expensive when you damage them.
  • You can have both. Apple has always had great design, now they're finally starting to catch up to Android in Functionality. The still have a bit to go but the latest phones and version of iOS were a big step forward. I still prefer Android but someday I might change my opinion.
  • Samsung did not align the lines as that would make Samsung phones too similar to iPhone design. They would get sued again. May be uneven lines will save their @$$ against another lawsuit Sent from the iMore App
  • LOL! Exactly. Straight lines are an Apple "patented" design I bet. Just like a rectangular shape with rounded curves. If Apple was to put into their software what they put into the "design" of the phone, iOS would be terrific. But sad to say...it's not.
  • A lot of people love iOS and prefer it to Android. That's why there are statistically far more switchers to iPhone from Android than the other way around. Your comment is based on your own opinion about the platforms, whereas this article is about subjective fact of no physical elements lining up.
  • Apple never "patentened" round corners. The Fandroids are one ones twisting the arguments. Samsung made their mobile devices similar to Apple's - Samsung has done this repeatedly in the past and occasionally they get sued for it. This would be like Ford making their Mustang looking like a Camaro or Corvette... and GM would be right to sue Ford for copying GM's trade dress.
  • i absolutely believe they probably looked at it and said let's not worry about it because not only will it save us time and money from a design and engineering standpoint, but it will probably also distinguish our product from Apple in general...i don't have a huge problem with it, but it does look better when it's straight (OCD talking).
  • obviously people are too stupid to understand the article. They can't comprehend what "attention to detail" means or why it matters. mediocre is good 'nuff.
    Don't paint the back of the fence, ain't nobody gunna see it....
  • the problem is that the article is making assumptions, big ones. now, if the author was able to obtain some evidence that the designers overlooked this aspect and that the alignment was completely accidental, then fine, that's an issue and the article calls it out phenominally, BUT, if Sammy did it purposefully to try and keep their design just a tiny bit less similar to the iPhone 6, then they don't deserve the criticism. there's no evidence that they didn't "paint the back of the fence" here, all conjecture.
  • It does look rather shitty.
  • yes it does..
  • It's attention to detail. You either get it or you don't. If you don't get it you never will....
  • Part of the Cult Of Apple is the aesthetics of their designs. As silly as it may seem, this is what Rene is pointing out here. Apple cares about the aesthetics of form as much as the technical quality of function. In and of itself, as you said, not a reason to switch. But taken as a whole, along with everything else? It speaks volumes about the overall quality of the product.
  • Honestly, it doesn't. It is merely reaching, grasping at anything to justify brand loyalty. Instead of admitting that it is merely brand loyalty. Especially since this alleged "attention to design" does not result in an actually better or even aesthetically more pleasing product. In this corner: glass back, Quad HD screen with curved edges
    In this corner: holes lined up and drilled to precision. Something that you will never see if you are one of the 99% of people who buys a case. And puts on the case immediately to protect your curved Quad HD screen. Sorry. It is nothing but brand loyalty. Which is fine. I prefer Kellogs over General Mills too.
  • I think you might be reaching to ignore attention to detail.
    There either is attention to detail or there isn't. Choice of a glass back or not is not "attention to detail", that's a materials choice. Quad HD screen is also not attention to detail, that is a feature - and stupid one that wastes battery and GPU effort for something no one sees even more so than lined up holes. After 375-400ppi, no human can see pixels with the unaided eye, so why waste power on pushing around so many more?? The reason is marketing, and Samsung and HTC and the rest of the Android heavy hitters have unfortunately gotten lost in this marketing bullet point race to claim they all have more pixels because it's one of the few ways they can differentiate in a commoditized platform. I'm waiting for when one of them will put in a 1000ppi screen and fanboys will rejoice even though it'll look exactly the same as the old GS6 screen.
    Is it a big deal the holes on the iPhone line up and don't on the Galaxy? No, of course not, and 99% of average consumers won't care. Does Apple assign a higher value than Samsung to attention to detail in design and craftsmanship? Yes.
    (Note: I say all this willfully admitting the GS6 is a beautiful well made phone, FINALLY made of premium materials, and impressed me coming from Samsung).
  • I will say there is some advantage to using these higher density screens. Although Apple makes some very bright and well calibrated displays, I would prefer if they used a slightly higher pixel density because aside from the 6+ I can definitely make out pixels on the screen, although I sometimes do hold the phone slightly closer to my eyes than the average person. For Samsung these higher densities help due to the less aesthetically pleasing Pentile sub-pixel matrix they use on their displays. Personally, I would prefer greater battery life to 1440p display which is why I use a Sony Z3, where a more standard sub pixel matrix is used and a 1080p display suffices quite well. The biggest benefit I can see to OEMs going to these higher and higher density screens is that is makes the lower resolution ones cheaper and pushes the industry closer to the densities they will need for a quality VR device. It's also worth mentioning that HTC, although their recent phones have seemed rather subpar to me, is not caught up in this resolution war. They still ship their phones with 1080p displays.
  • Speaking of things that waste battery and GPU power, the iPhone 6 Plus renders everything at 1242x2208 and then downscales it to 1080x1920 because iOS has an idiotic rendering system that scales by multiples of 320x480. As to "no human can see pixels above 400ppi", that's irrelevant. You don't need to see individual pixels for aliasing to be an issue.
  • "Speaking of things that waste battery and GPU power, the iPhone 6 Plus renders everything at 1242x2208 and then downscales it to 1080x1920 because iOS has an idiotic rendering system that scales by multiples of 320x480." Wait, what? 1242 / 320 = 3.88125, clearly not a multiple of 320. That's *not* the reason why the iPhone 6 Plus renders at a higher resolution and downscales it. The iPhone screen size has not been a multiple of 320x480 since the iPhone 5 came out. Only the 3.5" displays used that base resolution. My educated guess would be that Apple wanted a 1242x2208 resolution and the displays weren't ready. I wouldn't be surprised if the next Plus model ups the resolution of it's panels.
  • I'm not actually a fanboi. I use an iPhone for exactly one reason: media management. Nothing I've seen on the other platforms comes anywhere close to the seamless and smart syncing and updating of music on the phone as the iPhone/iTunes pair. If I had been able to successfully replicate that on my (original) Droid X, I'd still be using an Android phone.
  • What you're describing is the software version of the attention to detail / fit and finish that Rene is writing about.
  • Are you sure? Because iTunes is awful Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Whatever issues iTunes has, and there are a few, media management and integration with Apple devices is not one of them. As bloated as iTunes may be, it's still faster and easier to use than Windows Media Player, which is the base requirement for attempting to replicate the functionality on a WinMob phone. BTW, I'm still on iTunes 11. They broke the UI with 12, but the device integration and actual management still works. Talk to me again in 18~24 months about what's available for this with Android. And which Androids (no Samsung, I have my own issues with that company) work best for that.
  • I think it's been a while since you read up on Windows Phone. I've had my Windows Phone for more than five months and I haven't touched Windows Media Player. Have you heard of Xbox Music and its integrated functionality with OneDrive when storing your music?
  • I think you are missing the main point of the article. When it comes to design Apple is meticulous about the details and this spills over in everything they do whether software, hardware, and especially how they work together. Samsung on the other hand thinks of things as a checklist. Quad HD display, check. Aluminum body, check. Octa core processor (even though it is only a quad core as only four cores can run at once), check. They dont pay attention to detail and if they dont on aesthetics than what else are they overlooking? From my use of Samsung products it happens with all their tech. They have the spec sheet, but the attention to detail isn't there. They continually miss the real points that keep people buying their products. They are more interested in getting people to buy their new products than simply keeping their customers year over year. Apple on the other hand knows where they are going. They march to the beat of their own drum and every feature makes sense for the product they have now and future products coming up. For example, it was cool knowing my retina Pro could take phone calls, but I really never use it. Now, I can see that Apple did this as part of handoff of all their apps such as the Apple Watch we didn't even know existed yet. Touch ID was a great idea, but the real reason for its existence wasn't seen for another year when Apple Pay came out. Samsung on the other hand seems happy with simply copying everything Apple does while missing the real reason for their existence. I for one, enjoy seeing how the Apple machine operates and the advantages of all their features on every device they release. Their attention to detail spills over in everything they do and it has built a trust in their users that we may not understand fully now, but we can still trust that it has been well thought out and has a reason for an existence. I can't say the same for Samsung as they seem happy just throwing everything against a wall and seeing what sticks. The problem is people are spending hard earned money on the things that dont and are quickly abandoned. This doesn't build brand loyalty.
  • I've experienced that lack of attention to detail from Samsung a few times. I'd had their earlier HDD products.. sucked. I found a lot of people on the net having the same issues I was too. I know at least 3 people that had Samsung refrigerators that ALL have sworn off ever buying one from them again. All had constant issues that would take forever to get "fixed" each time. The one place they're not bad is their TVs. They're some of the best quality picture out there (at least when comparing when I've bought over the last 8 years or so). But woe unto you if you ever have an issue with said TV and need support. I had one of their last line of LED based DLP TVs years ago and one of the phlatlight LEDs burned out after about 3 years. It took over 3 weeks to get a replacement! Every place I talked to (to try to get one faster) told me the same thing: Samsung wouldn't let anyone keep any on hand in the US, every replacement had to be ordered and shipped from South Korea.. at very slow speed. Now I have a 75" LCD flat panel of theirs that's fantastic as a display. The "smart" features are a steaming pile of super-slow and buggy crap though, so I never use them. Here's hoping I never need it fixed.
  • You lost credibility by saying Samsung just copies Apple... I mean, what exactly did they copy? Finger print reader was first done with Motorola Atrix. Apple watch?? The galaxy s6 body design is taken from the galaxy Alpha, before the iphone 6... all android users had tap to pay on nfc phones way before ApplePay. The vending machines at my local mall accept tap to pay from android phones. If anything Apple copied Samsung with the apple watch and even the bigger screen size.
  • Maurioio S 88, you miss the forest for all the tress. Apple actually thinks about how certain features work and how they are implemented and how a person would likely use them. Apple spends more time making the features more useful and they are usually not first to market with said product or features .... You could even say Apple is anti feature. NFC on Android is a joke... as are many of the "features" and "gimmicks". Having a semi useless feature does not make one phone better than another. Samsung not only copies Apple - they have always copied the more successful companies. Samsung can make some great hardware, but they are not much use beyond that.
  • Actually, finger print readers on a mobile device was first done in 2003 on the HP iPAQ 5000 Series Pocket PCs (Windows Mobile)
  • Attention to detail goes far beyond misaligned holes. It extends to every aspect of the device and software. This should be obvious...
  • Exactly! Check out the following links for an example to illustrate your point: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/macbook-pro-owners-complaining-strange-1534... http://au.ibtimes.com/apple-macbook-pro-problems-defects-cause-staingate...
  • I don't mean to imply that this is not an important issue, but you are equating what is most likely an assembly line issue that has effected an extremely small percentage of users with a basic design philosophy. The attention to detail can and does usually extend to manufacturing but you are talking about a number that is a rounding error in the larger scheme of things.
    Also one of the articles references iPhones bending... really? So many of these comments miss the basic point of the article.
    Yes, I have an S6 and it is definitely the nicest, most well put together Android phone I have owned. It is also true that even them cutting back on the special "Samsung UI Sauce" for Touchwiz was basically another check box. "You want less Touchwiz?" Check! But we are still going to put in some crazy, like isn't it great that in the settings you have the "Sounds", "Notifications" and "Edge screen settings" in two places! So in my devices category I really only have two settings that aren't repeated elsewhere.
    That is deliberate. That is not just inattention to detail, it is deliberate poor UI design.
  • @Bill Bates1 - Honestly, you are not honest, but you definitely are myopic! Maybe others do not care about your stupid quad HD curved screen? You see, it can work both ways.
  • It's NOT just aesthetics though. It's attention to detail. If Samsung didn't bother paying attention to details like this, what else didn't they bother doing? For example, how well secured are the port connectors inside? Are they really stable or will they loosen and, in some cases, fail in a year or two? It's not that things are aligned on the iPhone and it's pretty... it's that things are aligned on the iPhone because they care about craftsmanship and that attitude carries through the rest of the product.
  • Exactly! Check out the following links for an example to illustrate your point: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/macbook-pro-owners-complaining-strange-1534... http://au.ibtimes.com/apple-macbook-pro-problems-defects-cause-staingate...
  • I think one of the points is that visible lack of care about the aesthetics, is a surface indicator of lack of care through the inside - and software.
  • I'm sorry, but that simply does not follow. Were I to take the case off an iPhone 6 and wrap it in cardboard, would it not still be an outstanding device?
  • Wait. WHAT? Unless that was how Apple themselves chose to ship the iPhone, this point makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
  • Whilst I agree that the iPhone might look smart because they've spent time and resources on aligning the details, I don't think we can say that this kind of focus on aesthetics are an indicator of attention to other types of (perhaps functional) detail. Let's imagine that on any given product (this doesn't only apply to smartphones, obviously) two buttons are better off misaligned because it allows the device to be easier to operate. Or that internally, one port is positioned on a different part of casing because the arrangement of the phones internal components in this way makes the device in some way perform more efficiently. I've read a lot about people assuming that Samsung simply 'didn't care', and 'if they don't care about this level of aesthetic detail then imagine what other things they don't care about'. Well, that's an assumption, and I wouldn't necessarily let it stand in the way of me committing to a superior product from a functional or performance perspective. Again, I agree that aesthetics are important but you can't always assume that a product that looks nicer is better (or worse) than another for those reasons alone.
  • Please, I own the iphone 6, ipad mini along with several Android devices. The Note 4 is my daily driver. This is the most ridiculous article that Rene has wrote to date. The internal specs of the Android device determine much of the design. Much rather have 3gb of ram and have great multi tasking than have just 1gig and have my sites close down on me when I leave them due to lack of ram. You need to put these parts somewhere and still keep the device manageable.To pick something so dumb like lining up of cut outs is reaching, really reaching.
  • That's not how iOS memory management works.
  • Try opening up several web pages in your browser, when you go back to the first one it is closed down due to lack of ram. That is what i was referring to. I understand multi tasking is don by the home button, the lack of ram is a major flaw. Nothing worse then trying to go back and forth thru several web pages and they keep shutting down. By putting bigger ram chips and other parts the ridiculous details that Rene mentions is secondary. These same design details are in almost every Android phone, why is it Rene only points this out in the Samsung devices???
  • It makes sense but it's the opposite in reality though. Check it out. Very illuminating. The Galaxy S 6 can't keep apps open like the iPhone 6.
    http://youtu.be/hUw9PUlFUF0
  • Zing! Right over your head.
  • Did he say that? No, he didn't.
  • These are the smaller things that form the bigger picture. I think many creative people would agree that it's the attention to detail that counts.
  • You're missing the greater point all together. If the company pays that much attention to the little things, like alignment (things that you and most people won't bother noticing—like the back of the fence) then imagine the effort that goes into the things that you do notice. Refer back to the James Cameron quote in the article and cogitate on it for a moment. Hopefully, it'll sink in!
  • I don't get this comment and the one's like it. They make no sense given what RR already said that many people would not agree and even make fun of him. The point is to him and others like him details matter and to others they do not. So you simply confirm RR's point as do all the other 'get a life comments'. Jony Ive was at some conference the other day and when talking about the Apple Watch he said, along the lines of, the watch is a physical representation of the people who designed and made it. That's the important point about the lining up of the ports: Apple gives a shit about design and Samsung clearly does not. The details reveal how much the people behind the product care about what they make.
  • This is a strange article, I think only the most anal person would be bothered by this. Even with the images and lines I don't see any issues with having a sim tray that I use once when I get the phone not perfectly aligned with a power button I would use daily.
  • I know it's weird but this stuff driving me crazy as well. It seems to me that Apple takes the time to consider the tiny details.
  • As part of my job, I write operating procedures. Even though no one will see them, I ensure that there is not a single stray space or indentation. Sent from the iMore App
  • If you are writing operating procedures that no one will see, why are you writing them? Posted via the Android iMore App!
  • ZING!
  • No one will see... the stray space or indentation.
  • That which what was written, was so poorly written as to meaning, is more indicative of poor quality then stray spaces or indentation. Checkmate. Posted via the Android iMore App!
  • I picked up on your point right off the bat - and I agree 120% :) Thank you.
    It is a huge part of my job as well! Others may not know or care about the concept (technical writing or more generally "details").
  • The lack of alignment is definitely something I noticed before and that bothers me greatly. Careful design is one of the many things that keep me with Apple, however I do think the language of the article was overly melodramatic.
  • I am actually bothered by those aesthetics. I don´t know if it is a reason to switch to iPhone, but you can´t "unsee" what was seen in this article. LOL
  • Being aware of design has nothing to do with being "anal", when paying premium for a product, the consumer must expect nothing than perfection. At least Apple tries to deliver, while most others dont even try. "Almost good" is just not good enough. Even Apple struggles, Im waiting for my third iPhone 6 because there are some screen artifacts on it, as the one before. Co-workers with android phones dont understand why, they say "You can still use the phone", but no, when its not 100%, then its just not good enough.
  • Making things line up n a centre line is not necessarily "good design" though. You can say it's meticulous, and you can praise their attention to detail, but it's not necessarily good or bad design.
  • Steve Jobs would be very anal about this. And he was the man that built the most valuable company in human history. If you think these details DONT matter, then tell that to the unrivalled legacy he left behind. He succeeded because he was uncompromising. Samsung are losing money because they made compromises. Plastic body because its cheaper for us to build? Sounds like a good idea for our balance sheet.
  • Honestly, I can't fathom the sort of person to whom misaligned ports, grills, and other apertures aren't the sign of poor design.
  • Thanks for the laugh, Rene. This article helped reaffirm that you are truly a comedy writer above all else. Good on ya... Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • I know, it's like he is doing this long term punk on Apple devotees - writing posts like this that are actually making fun of the most fringe, the most insane among them by pretending to be one. At least I hope, because if not, I feel really bad for someone so in love with a company that frankly doesn't need his "help" and he pathologically cannot help himself from going wayyyyy over the deep end of sanity.
  • Open your mind. He's using the alignment of these ports as an immediately visible, provable example of a much larger point. Apple sweats the small stuff in everything they do, be it hardware design, packaging, software, integrations etc. The alignment of the buttons / ports is one bit of evidence that supports this point; he's not writing an entire article about JUST the alignment of these elements. It's people like you that refuse to concede a decent point like this that infuriate designers (like myself) who care enough to attend to these small details.
  • Pretty design on the outside does not imply similar is the case inside. Plenty of expensive pretty things I have bought failed to live up in the long term, or even short term, but plenty of my rugged "function-only" gadgets are still running fine. The alignment of the ports eats into the board, perhaps that is why iProducts are so often short on specs. Having more memory or an expansion slot is not just an aesthetic consideration, but is reflected in daily use and longevity.
  • Great article Rene. Some dumb asses will never get the point of this article. Sent from the iMore App
  • And some will. Posted via the Android iMore App!
  • Reasons to switch to an iPhone yes ? This article won't make me switch to an iPhone well not for this reason anyhow. I am just not that ocd about stuff like this. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • If it weren't for "OCD" people, smartphones would still be made of plastic and look like this:
    http://img1.mxstatic.com/palm/en-2007-palm-propose-le-treo-750-un-des-de...
  • Like I said I am not ocd enough to let lines that don't match up exactly bother me, let alone make me go buy an iPhone. That's not the reason I would by an iPhone. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • I think we're in agreement that good craftsmanship and design will not sway the average Android user to the iOS camp.
  • I like things to look good yes we agree on that :-) I would like to try an iPhone 6 or 6+ for maybe a week to give it a fair chance. I have an Nvidia shield tablet but I went out and bought an iPad mini retina 2 because some times I found the shield really slow when waking from sleep and starting a web browser. Niggles like that bugged me. I still like the shield tablet and its great for games. I also am enjoying my iPad as well. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Android users are using iphones 6 whether they know it or not.... in a crappy android version, hence galaxy s6.
  • @bbeauzil: Wrong. It is the iPhone users that are using Android phones whether they know it or not. Because iPhones have components manufactured by Android OEMs (i.e. the CPU, memory, screen etc.) Because the iPhones now have Android phone factors (screens bigger than 3.5' and 4'). Because iOS is now packed with features that first existed in JellyBean and KitKat. Because critical/desirable apps like YouTube, Google Search, Gmail, Chrome etc. would not exist without Google and Android. Because several Apple apps (i.e. iCloud) are (inferior) copies of apps and services innovated by Google and Android. And by the way, at least Google hosts their own cloud storage service. Apple needs Microsoft Azure and Amazon AWS to offer "their" cloud offerings. Add all the hardware, components, software, apps, services etc. and very little of the Apple end products are actually Apple. Instead, your favorite company is only good at taking components, products, innovations etc. offered by other companies and assembling them to create their own product. In other words, they benefit from the risk and hard work and infrastructure created by everyone else to be able to offer their own products.
  • http://www.postadvertising.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/samsung-smartp...
  • You really don't understand how things work, do you? Are you trying to imply that samsung designs apples A series chips because they simply have manufactured them in the past? Do you honestly think that because the A7 was put together by Samsung that that they actually designed the tech? Apple designed the A series chips and simply pay Samsung to put them together nothing more nothing less. I used to work for Honda lock putting mirrors together for Acura and Honda cars does that mean I should ask for more cash since by your logic I clearly created those mirrors? Come on, man you can't really think that way. Not to mention Samsung doesnt even put together the A8 and A8X in the newer iPhone 6/6 Plus and iPad Air 2. Same goes with displays. The retina displays are still Apple designed tech they are just put together by other companies. It really isn't that hard to undertstand. As far as iCloud if you are honestly thinking for a second that anything compares in the Android camp your wrong. I use both, but Android just doesn't have anything that works as smooth as iCloud or iMessages. iOS has some features that Android has had first, but if you go by that logic Android as it is now wouldn't even exist if iOS hadn't come out first. Same with multitouch displays. Should we say Android wouldn't even have multitouch if it wasn't for Apple? All good ideas have been used and reused over and over again. There are plenty of examples where both OS's have borrowed ideas from each other and you and I both know that. All Apple products are made by Apple or bought by Apple in acquisitions. Dont sit back and act like none of it is Apple's technology.
  • Samsung is a great component manufacturer - LED displays and some chips. That's about the only good thing I can say about them. They should stick to that instead of trying to put complete products together, which is where they suck.
  • Would there be any reason you might learn basic grammar and punctuation?
  • Apple has an obsession with detail. Jonny Ive has said it many times, and it's those little obsessions that make Apple products so special. If you don't care, fine! The S6 is still a very good phone. But I can see the point of Renée's article- as Steve Jobs himself once said, 'Beauty is important.' Sent from the iMore App
  • You mean Jony "Sir Hypocrite" Ive who bashed the Moto Maker as "lazy" and "abandoning the design responsibility to the consumers" on one hand and then BLATANTLY COPYING MOTO MAKER FOR THE APPLE WATCH? (Yes, it was direct, because Motorola offered Moto Maker for the 360 smart watch as well.) Please. Customers do at some level? Yes, they notice it RIGHT BEFORE THEY PUT A CASE ON THEIR PHONE TO PROTECT THEIR $750 INVESTMENT RIGHT? Again, this is merely justifying brand loyalty. That is all and nothing more.
  • Apple never copied Moto Maker. There's a difference between offering customers a few tastefully curated style options, and giving them complete freedom to customize a monstrosity of their choosing. Apple will never offer customers the option to create something that looks like this:
    http://i.imgur.com/aXEpg36.png
  • Marc Newson, who is part of Apple's design team, created most of those straps and options ins 1986 as part of his Pod Watch series.
  • Keep in mind some of these design elements are due to the edge screen. Less room to ensure anal retentive users are satisfied their phone will function OK by having holes lined up. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Someone was potty trained very early in life.
    Quality design and attention to detail do matter in products that are designed to last. Iphones are designed to be non repairable and disposable after 3 years or less. Making the industrial design argument for home construction, classic cars, even stereo equipment is more appropriate than an Iphone.
    People can and do pay for quality design and this does matter for products with any longevity. No one makes an industrial design tissue paper because it is designed to be disposable. In our modern technological society almost nothing is more disposable than smartphones which are typically outdated in 2 years.
  • So by your reasoning, a beautifully presented meal must be the ultimate waste of time and effort. https://designbyfood.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/fine-dining-restaurants...
    http://trendymods.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/fine-dining-food.jpg Incidentally, there's a huge difference between different kinds of toilet paper. A former employer stocked its restrooms with a particularly annoying variety that combined flimsiness with a texture approximating that of sandpaper. We're not animals. Hopefully we've evolved beyond the point where the only thing that matters is minimized costs and bare bones utility.
  • Brand loyalty. Nothing else.
  • But what inspires that brand loyalty?
  • In most cases? Nothing. There really is no objective reason to prefer a Ford over a Chevy.
    There is no objective reason to prefer a Toyota over a Honda.
    No objective reason to prefer a Mercedes over a BMW.
    No objective reason to prefer an Audi over a Jaguar. An Audi over a Toyota? Definitely. An Audi over a Lexus? Not so much. It is subjective. Because "I like it better." Kelloggs, General Mills or Post. Maybe you like Post better because you ate it every day growing up. Which is fine. It has nothing to do with whether Post buys higher grade corn and wheat for their cereal, or whether they refine their own sugar. Subjective.
  • Sure there is.
  • I have little respect for American car makers, but among them Ford is the only one I consider to have some sense of style. Their reliability is hit or miss depending on the model and the year. You also mentioned German and Japanese auto makers. Broadly speaking there's most definitely a difference between those two groups. Japanese cars will typically be more reliable and less expensive. German cars will typically have more elegant and modern styling, better fit and finish, higher quality interiors, and considerably better performance and handling. What was your point again?
  • iPhone = MERCEDES Samsung = Hyundai You're right, though, it's "subjective" to say one car is "better" than another. PS: enjoy your Hyundai
  • In all fairness, if we were talking about the top model from each brand, I think Mercedes - Lexus would be a more apt comparison. Both considered luxury cars, with one commanding a higher price and little debate about whether the two cars are truly equals. One difference, though, is that you don't see Lexus (or Hyundai) copying Mercedes so blatantly that you can't tell the cars apart at a quick glance. Another difference is that if you did a total cost of ownership analysis, including resale value and maintenance costs, the Lexus would come out as more affordable due to the steep price differences between the two. But in Apple v Samsung, the prices really aren't that far apart and the difference in long term OS support and resale value favor the iPhone.
  • I disagree. I dislike Apple immensely nowadays, but I still buy the products because they are the best designed. I don't like the company and I don't like the brand, but the products are still a mile better than anyone else's, especially Samsung's. I would switch in a second if another company made similar products and wasn't as bad as a company. Sadly this is not likely to ever happen.
  • Sorry you dont like the company or brand. I started using them for many reasons. Great products and great customer service.
  • So you dislike Apple but you don't know of any other companies that are any better. What are the top three things you dislike about Apple?
  • My disagreement with Apple is mostly about how they handle the company and how they treat their customers. It has nothing to do with their designs or their product line. It's mostly about how elitist they are, their pricing "strategy," their kind of "f*ck-you" attitude towards anyone outside of the USA, and the fact that they are now chasing their own tails down the "luxury brand" sink-hole. It's just not the same company it used to be. I see them now as a sort of group of greedy, tired old white guys turning the crank on the product machine Steve Jobs invented and dancing around in the cash it produces.
  • Sorry you feel that away living outside of the USA. Here I feel the price is good (would always like cheaper). They take care of their employees and donate money to help in many ways. They seem to treat me and everyone I know who deals with them well. I mean look at how many people love to go into the stores to buy products. Not sure what your talking about them mistreating customers.
  • RalphEllis: "Iphones are designed to be non repairable and disposable" Really? iFixit Repairability rating for iPhone 6: 7/10.
    https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iPhone_6 iPhones Retain More Resale Value Than Samsung Handsets
    http://www.cio.com/article/2882816/smartphones/iphones-retain-more-resal... Report graphs Apple’s dedication to supporting older iPhones vs. Android
    http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/fidlee-ios-vs-android-adoptio...
  • I agree that quality design always wins, but people are simply misinformed if they thing that lining everything up on a centre line is necessarily "quality design."
  • I don't think Rene was presenting this as a definitive Litmus test of quality design. It's conceivable that a great phone design might preclude the alignment of certain external elements, just as the iPhone 6's design didn't permit a flush mounted camera without making some unacceptable compromises. On its own, it might not mean much. But in the context of Samsung's product history, it's the latest evidence of a company that lacks a passion for quality design. If it weren't for Apple, Samsung would still be making plastic phones with chiclet keyboards.
  • It's not merely the alignment of exterior features. It's the interior design, the "inside of the fence", that goes into creating this exterior design. To achieve that, the components must be precisely positioned. Think about all the extra work that goes into that. It's really no small feat. The extension of this argument that Ritchie makes is that this attention to detail informs all of Apple and extends to all its products. I wouldn't entirely agree with that point.
  • "Almost nothing is aligned." For a second there I thought you were talking about the clocks app in iOS.
  • LOL, You made me pick up my iphone and examine the clock app for alignment.
    What is not aligned????
  • If you tap the location name so that it shows the local times on the right as numbers instead of clocks, the numbers are not aligned with the location names. They're slightly higher. (I am using a 6+ btw)
  • They are aligned to the bottom of the location names. It's not a misalignment. Sent from the iMore App
  • LOL. Thanks. I see it now.
    Like Gazstar said, it is justified to the horizontal bottom edge.
    These attention to details are import to some and not so much to others. Some people will appreciate it while others can't care less. A point that Rene was trying to make and got blown out of proportion. Glad to get some constructive feedback and explanation. PS. I am one of those anal retentive on details - I appreciate having them than not.
  • Rene: Honestly, this is waving the white flag. It is an admission that any disadvantages that Samsung - and by extension Android - has with respect to Apple are exceedingly minor. Things such as this are literally nitpicking in a haystack with a fine-toothed comb, or worse yet conceding that the only reason for choosing an iPhone over a good Android flagship phone is personal preference. Which is fine. Simply liking something better does not need to be justified. I prefer Handel to Mendelssohn, for example, as well as Monet to Picasso. Which is fine. So is preferring Bruce Springsteen to Mendelssohn and choosing Steven Spielberg over Picasso if that is how you prefer to be entertained. Rather than engaging in future exercises of, shall we say, obscurantism - in addition to the need to avoid making claims that are dubious at best - perhaps this feature should be pared from weekly to monthly? Also, in addition, revisiting and updating past issues are fine. For instance, if lagginess and instability was true in 2013, if it is still true today just restate it. If a better ecosystem was true in 2012, if it is still true today state it again. If better resale value was true then, if it is true now say it again. If superior third party apps, privacy, security etc. were true before, if they are true now state it. But this is simply (all but) conceding that if you want a half-inch larger curved Quad HD display, more health tracking sensors, more storage (in the base model), better multi-tasking, the ability to make purchases at ANY retailer that accepts credit cards, wireless charging and a higher resolution camera, then go with the S6 Edge. But if you want an iPhone 6, I have no real reason to recommend it other than A) it being cheaper and B) my liking it better.
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  • The opposite, really. It goes from case to chip. They can't align the sides, they can't design ARM IP. It feels systematic. Hopefully all of it gets some attention next year.
  • No you just don't like Samsung. Fair enough I say. The s3 was the last Samsung phone I had. I have yet to see the new Samsung phones. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Care to update this article now that the new iPhone Xs and Xs Max don't have symmetrical speaker holes down below? Nope, I didn't forget your little rant from 3 years ago.
  • These comments do an even better job of illustrating the differences between Apple and Android proponents than the article.
  • Looks like samsung is on the right track if THIS is all there is to complain about.
  • Or conversely, looks like Apple was right all along if the latest evolution of the Galaxy ditches all the features they used to claim as superior while copying 95% of the iPhone's appearance.
  • Nice try but no cigar. 0. So the curved screen in the S6 Edge is only 5% difference in appearance? That is rich. It would be one thing if the Edge was only a minor thing that sold only a few models and could be dismissed as a gimmick, but it is honestly looking like the S6 Edge will outsell the S6. 1. It was Apple who went to bigger screens after years of ridiculing them. Game, set, match. 2. The Galaxy Note 4 will retain the removable battery and other features for "power users." Samsung realized that many of the more "casual users" never wanted or needed those features anyway, and that some of them are rendered moot anyway by better battery life, faster charging and more storage. 3. Samsung was not the first Android maker to drop those extras. The Nexus 6 abandoned them also, for example. 4. The S6 and the S6 Edge are still packed with plenty of features that iPhones will not have until 2017, at which time Apple fans will pretend that Apple invented them and deny that Android phones ever had them. Or they will claim that "Apple implemented a flawed, poorly conceived and designed Android feature RIGHT" again.
  • I love the notion that deciding to include a bigger screen qualifies as innovation. So cute. Maybe this will be Samsung's "magic bullet" when competing with the Apple Watch. Also, this: "The Galaxy S6 Edge Is Totally Beautiful—And Pointless"
    http://www.wired.com/2015/03/galaxy-s6-edge-pointless/ "But the most surprising thing I’ve found so far is that the beautiful sloped-screen Galaxy S6 Edge is entirely pointless. It’s the first phone I can think of that is a fashion play through and through—no one will ever buy this device because it does something special. It doesn’t."
  • Yes, a bigger screen does qualify as innovation. The bigger screen created a new device category: the phablet. Phablets cannibalized small tablet sales, including the iPad Mini. Phablets became the primary computing devices in many developing economies ... instead of phones, tablets and even laptops ... with people using them for media consumption, gaming, education etc. Samsung and other Android OEMs sold HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of those things. Samsung, LG and others even turned them into productivity devices that incorporate extra hardware like styluses. (Which Apple also spent years panning but will include in the Apple iPad Pro, which emulates the Samsung Galaxy Pro released 2 years ago.) Basically, you belittle phablets, which totally changed the mobile device industry in terms of economics and the way that people use and companies design devices because Apple didn't invent it. Meanwhile, you guys claim that stuff like fingerprint scanners and other small iterations that Apple comes up with are these groundbreaking transformative necessities that no smartphone user should be without. Incidentally, the reviewers can dismiss the curved screens all they want. They dismissed the larger screens too. For years. But the marketplace says otherwise. The curved models by Samsung and LG are selling tons. LG's curved screen will be standard on their next flagship. Samsung will probably do the same with either the Note 5 or the S7. And again, when Apple copies it in 2017 (when they get Samsung to manufacture the screen for them just like Samsung will manufacture the A9 chip and the memory, making the iPhone more of a Samsung phone than an Apple one) you guys will pretend that Apple invented it. Like always. Just as you guys do/did with all the Jellybean and KitKat features in iOS 7 and iOS 8. Am awaiting iOS 9 to see how many Lollipop (and KitKat) features that it will have in it. For instance, will iOS devices FINALLY allow multiple accounts, which Android has allowed since Honeycomb? Or what about guest accounts? When iOS does, you guys will sheepishly admit "Wow, I guess those were always really useful after all ..."
  • I'm not questioning whether there's a market for larger sized phones or whether it was a good business move on Samsung's part. Personally, I have no use for a phablet, but I can appreciate its value for someone who can't afford different computing devices tailored for different occasions or for someone with poor eyesight who can't read a smaller display. I'm asking whether the decision to sell one is an example of innovation. Samsung's business strategy consists in large part of slapping together every idea imaginable and seeing how they do in the market. That, and also meticulously copying the best ideas form their most talented competitors. To me that is a crude, if occasionally successful, business strategy, but by no means innovation.
  • "That, and also meticulously copying the best ideas form their most talented competitors. " Again, Apple does the same. It is just that Apple fans never admit it when they do. Apple, who honestly is actually not good at software and services, has been copying the same from Google for years, and from Microsoft before then. "Samsung's business strategy consists in large part of slapping together every idea imaginable and seeing how they do in the market." Yeah, as if Apple hasn't had product failures before. Especially since they fail at an idea and then reintroduce it later. They failed with the Newton and relaunch it a decade later as an iPad. Basically, you guys have the stance that it is only an innovation if Apple does it or when Apple does it. Which is only a plausible stance because Apple has ridden the iPhone - and to a lesser extent the iPad and iPod - to be the #1 company on the planet. But back when Microsoft, Sony and yes SAMSUNG were bigger, more influential companies than Apple (less than 10 years ago honestly) it was a ridiculous stance to take. And when the next big thing comes along that ISN'T invented by Apple, claiming that only Apple innovates will become even more ridiculous.
  • "Again, Apple does the same. " This argument is really lame. While Apple will sometimes incorporate a specific feature that first appeared elsewhere, they spend an enormous amount of effort creating innovative designs in-house. And before they implement something new on their products, a lot of work goes into ensuring that the feature makes sense, has useful real world utility, and works in harmony with the rest of the product. When they incorporated notifications and settings panels on iOS, for example, they were meticulous about designing them to be intuitive, devoid of non-essential clutter, and energy efficient. Before making an iPhone with a larger screen, they tested countless variations for ergonomics and battery life and chose the best sizes from there. Samsung, in contrast, just copies and slaps things together without doing any of the hard and risky work of creating anything truly new or testing its real world usefulness. When they do release something that is truly unique and their own, more often than not it flops. "Yeah, as if Apple hasn't had product failures before. Especially since they fail at an idea and then reintroduce it later. They failed with the Newton and relaunch it a decade later as an iPad." The Newton was introduced during Apple's darkest period while Jobs was away and the company was run by a bunch of clueless business-first clowns who had no idea what made Apple special. The Newton was actually decades ahead of its time, which speaks volumes of Apple's innovation chops, but their executives at the time didn't have the smarts to realize it wasn't ready yet for mass appeal. I find it hilarious, btw, that you have to go back 17 years to cite an example of an Apple failure. "Basically, you guys have the stance that it is only an innovation if Apple does it or when Apple does it." That's not true at all. If anything, you could accuse of of anti-Google bias, which I think is well-deserved considering the company's many flops and disdain for their users' best interests. There are lots of companies and individuals creating amazingly impressive innovations all the time, and Apple fans have no reason to deny them credit. For example, the team behind WebOS was absolutely brilliant. When that came out, many thought that it was the first worthy challenger to iOS and the only product that stood a chance of effectively competing with it. Today, it's actually being used to drive the LG Urbane watch, and its UI is absolutely gorgeous. What's missing? Androidwear! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhWIyrz0CWE
  • I could have come up with more Apple market failures easily, but my aim is not to Apple bash. Look, companies have different market strategies. Apple only introduces a few products. Some of them sell in huge numbers, some not so much. Other companies introduce a lot of products. Most fail, some don't. But here's the deal: merely because they are market failures does not mean that they are not innovations. Especially considering that the ideas often wind up in other, successful products. For example, the VERY successful Galaxy S6 Edge (and the less successful but still profitable Note Edge) were previewed by the Samsung Galaxy Round. And Samsung's future design ideas for curved form factors look outstanding. They will be introduced in 2017, possibly late 2016, and be absolutely astounding. Another thing: Samsung absolutely does innovate on components. Super AMOLED? They invented that. Their new Exynos octa-core ARM chips? They innovated that. They are also going to be the first to market with 5G, which will mean Google Fiber type speeds to your cell phone. Samsung Pay? A real innovation. And so on. But do they get credit for that from the Apple fans? Nope. But when those same innovations wind up in Apple phones - often by way of Apple buying them directly from Samsung - Apple fans will pretend that Apple was responsible for the innovation. WebOS? Please. Apple fans have a history of being overly complimentary to small, failing companies that never pose a threat to them while trashing the successful companies that do. You like WebOS because it isn't selling and poses no threat to Apple's market share. Had WebOS succeeded, you guys would be trashing that as a stolen, bad product and would be asking why more people aren't giving Android a chance. It has been that way with Apple fans ever since Microsoft. And it is funny that WebOS is "brilliant" but ChromeOS gets dismissed as garbage. Why? Because ChromeOS is actually selling. I suppose you are going to extol the merits of Firefox OS next? The LG Urbane watch looks great. But so does the Huawei Watch. Which has - you guessed it - Android Wear. As does the LG G Watch R. Even the Moto 360 looks pretty good. But hey, you guys will always have plenty of compliments for the products that don't sell and fail.
  • +1000000 Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • "The LG Urbane watch looks great. But so does the Huawei Watch" Nope.
  • Nope.
    And the edge on my S6 Edge IS useless. So I can display info on it when I place the phone face down? Yes, great... oh wait, I can't actually SEE the information. But at least It will display a color when one of six selected people call, or I could just leave it face up or assign a special ring (or vibration pattern if I use my iPhone).
  • I agree fully with Rene's take on this. One example from the distant past is the slow blink of the then Mac Pro in sleep mode. The attached Cinema Display (a CRT) would blink exactly synchronised. Apple took months to figure out how to do this just right over the monitor cable.
    The reason: If the lights would blink out of sync, you would notice, attention would be drawn to them. So they did this so nobody would notice. Its typical for Apple's obsession with design perfection. I like them for it.
  • And the sleep indicator light pulsed at a rate that matched human breathing rhythm..
  • Still does on my MBP 15" ;-)
  • I miss that feature on mine. : (
  • Is this guy serious, nothing else needs to be said, LOL. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • It actually is kind of a silly article... BUT, since you brought it up. I've owned both Samsung phones & iPhones. I am a huge iPhone fan and because every project I do must be perfect I do appreciate the attention to detail. I would say it's more prevalent on the software side of things. I will however bring up the fact that I've personally had two iPhones and seen at least a few more with crooked home buttons. The little square that the previous generations had before the 5s. My iPhone 5 had a home button that was damn near at a 22° angle. I considered taking it back but thought that would be silly. Also, on the topic, my 5s' aluminum frame was crooked out of the box too, with a noticeable gap on the upper left side that leaked light. Still a gorgeous piece of machinery, and light years ahead of the others, I'm just sayin. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
  • I've owned and seen a lot of iPhones and I've never seen one with the defects you described. Apple would instantly swap one out for you if presented with any of those flaws.
  • Well it simply does not matter to me that you've never seen it. I didn't just sit here with my morning coffee and invent a problem to add to an article. It happened. Regardless of the fact that Apple would've swapped it out, if you read my whole paragraph you'll see that I decided against returning it because that would just be silliness. Sound good?
  • Wether you decided not to return it isn't the point. The fact that Apple would look at those things as defects and replace the phone is.
  • I've owned all the iPhones up to the iPhone 5 and I have had factory defects exactly of the kind described on every single one of them (light gaps, misaligned buttons, bend panels, etc.). The iPhone 5 has misaligned glass "windows" and (like most every other iPhone 5 I've ever picked up and shook), it rattles because of some loose metal doo-hickey inside. It's true that Apple's gear is far form perfect although it's generally a lot closer to perfect than Samsung's which are poorly designed from the start.
  • Exactly. Nailed it.
  • Please rene this article makes the iOS user seem bad
    You can do better than this Sent from the iMore App
  • For an optimist this is called Attention to Detail. For every other it doesn't matter. The attention to detail describes thoroughness and accuracy with which products are designed at Apple. It is the attitude which is prevalent in all the aspects of iPhone not only limited to the design. It shows how Apple values its customers. And for that it charges some premium. In iPhone case people are actually paying the premium and this itself proves that so called Attention to Detail is taken seriously by most of the consumers. My only reservation with this article is - iPhone is iPhone and is incomparable with Samsung. Sent from the iMore App
  • Yeah it reminds me on one of those old kit cars that mounted a faux Ferrari body on a GM chassis.
  • How very elitist of you... Enjoy Posted via S6 Edge
  • "For an optimist" ??? WTF?
  • Keep this up and eventually iMore still start receiving review units from Apple :p
  • That must be the most desperate article I have ever read. I mean we like iPhones and I have one but this one seems such a feeble attempt to bring people to iPhone. I have tried the Galaxy S6 and I love it. I have never said that about any samsung device before but this time samsung really out did themselves. Yes I don't like how they copied the iPhone from bottom but in everywhere else it's quite beautifully made. Sent from the iMore App
  • The rounded sides and giant antenna lines don't do anything for me, Rene.
    However, the ever-so-slightly chamfered edges of the S6 do. Design is subjective, Rene. This shouldn't be titled "Switch to iPhone." If you actually cared about the unbiased decisions or consumers, you would have called this a PSA, and asked for it to be written on AndroidCentral. However, because of your Apple bias, and since this is the phone that's going to offer the most competition to the iPhone, you decided to compare this only to an iPhone rather than phones by OnePlus, HTC, or Sony. If you really cared, you would not have put Apple on a pedestal, acting as though they're the only company to do this.
  • It is an Apple centric site?
    Why don't link over to the Android page.
    Not sure why you all troll over here.
    I never go to Android anything.
    Don't care, don't need to.
    So why you here? Sound a bit disappointed in choice.
  • Yes but the title is switch to an iPhone so is this just for iOS users ? I am interested in apple stuff believe it or not but disagree with René on this article. I enjoy using an iPad and using my android phone (a OnePlus one), I know it's strange but you can enjoy both systems. Both have good and bad points. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • NOICE. Also have an iPad and a OnePlus One. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • I D Yelna is just making a comment on how some people post thier comments. From reading a few they seem like they are just on here to make trolling statements. Is that a word trolling? HEHEHE. We get passionate in what we own and love.
  • I disagree that the design philosophy is a reason for most user to switch. Most people don't consciously notice things like this.
    One question for you (well, it's in multiple parts). Have you update to CM12 yet? I am seeing apps crash constantly now. Everything from Themer to the Calendar. It's frustrating as hell. Using my S6 for Android instead.
  • Yelna, are you for real? I read the article and unlike some I found it interesting. I believe that almost all OS will accomplish what I would like and need then to do. I am in fact though a Windows phone fan. Just a matter of preference. One thing that I do look for in a phone though is build quality. If I am spending hundreds on a phone I want it to feel worthy of its price tag. It's one reason why I like Nokia phones so much, to me they are extremely well built. That being said though Windows phone doesn't put food on my table. I don't understand your, out anyone's, disturbing reaction and defense to a phone. Resulting to calling people names is callous and truly uncalled for. Just because they have a difference in opinion? You would make a more valid argument if it was thoughtful and presented reasonable arguments. Feel free to flame me if you will, but I would challenge you to do so in a more mature manner.
  • My issue is really that because Samsung is the biggest competitor to Apple, Rene essentially called it the only competitor to Apple, and then put Samsung down by comparing the iPhone to the S6 in an incredibly biased way. If he wanted to put Samsung down, then why only compare it to the iPhone? What about HTC or other companies? Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • He's notorious for putting Apple on the highest pedestal whenever he is given the chance. When the whole Lenovo deal went down, and the problems that came with Superfish surfaced, Rene wrote up an article blasting Windows, told everyone switch to a Mac, and put Apple on the pedestal. Daniel Rubino from Windows Central came over, provided some objective points in his comments, and Rene couldn't say jack squat. The point is, these articles are so biased, it's almost disturbing to read. Posted from the Nexus 6, Nexus 5, or the Surface Pro 3
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  • +1 also Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • OK, he likes Apple stuff. So go somewhere else? Honestly, the tech geek habit of hanging around places that annoy them is truly baffling.
  • I don't hang around places that I don't like. I like iMore. I have an iPad Air 2 and a MacBook Air. I like iPhones, but I like Android phones a little more. What I don't like is unfairness or obvious bias in writing. A lot of the people here aren't Android Fanboys, nor do they hate Apple. They're just unbiased, and they recognize the advantages of different hardware and software. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Go somewhere else? Really? Before you came, the title had "Switch to iPhone" before it was renamed, insinuating that Rene WANTS someone like me to read this article. Kinda hard to get rid of us when the editor invites us in... Posted from the Nexus 6, Nexus 5, or the Surface Pro 3
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  • "The rounded sides and giant antenna lines don't do anything for me, Rene. However, the ever-so-slightly chamfered edges of the S6 do" What chamfered edges?
  • The ones on the S6 edge. It's in the photo at the top of this article! Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • AndroidCentral would have laughed him out of the room had he asked them to write this.
  • This only compares to Samsung and tells why you should get an iPhone over the Galaxy S6. What about phones by HTC? Or Sony? Or Motorola?
  • You don't get the context here. Certain - though not all - Apple fans were hoping that the iPhone 6 would lead to a stampede of premium smartphone fans away from Android to Apple, and that the rest of the Android market would be cannibalized by low-price models and forks (see Xiaomi) and the result would be pretty much an Apple monopoly (save for token competition) in the mobile space in 2-3 years. Now that the S6 is going to be Samsung's best selling model ever (exposing the claims of "record Android users are switching to the iPhone 6" propaganda from Apple's own corporate statements to be exactly that) and other smartphone makers are either hanging on (LG) or even increasing (Motorola, Asus) their sales ... this is a "those grapes are sour anyway" type of response. This is how ridiculous this stuff is. Asus has given us a 64 bit phone with 4GB of RAM, a 2.3 GHz octacore processor with PowerVR G6430 GPU, 1920p Gorilla Glass 3 5.5' screen, decent camera, health tracking sensors, quick charging 3000 mAH battery etc. <b>for $350 unlocked</b>. It has some of the best performance/gaming/multi-tasking benchmarks of ANY smartphone on the market, competitive with both the Galaxy S6 and the iPhone 6 Plus. And this isn't a race to the bottom, either. Asus will make a decent profit margin on each device sold. And most Apple fans see this <b>as a bad thing</b> as opposed to being able to master the process of choosing components, manufacturing processes, supply chain etc. to be able to offer such a great product like that at that price as being an outstanding achievement. It really, truly is baffling that disdain at the mere existence of competition makes people react like this.
  • "(exposing the claims of "record Android users are switching to the iPhone 6" propaganda from Apple's own corporate statements to be exactly that)".
    Not propaganda. A record number did switch when the 6 and 6 Plus were released.
  • All right. If 10 users switched in 2013 and 11 users switched in 2014, I guess it is a record. But the truth is that the number of people who switched from Android to iOS was small. The claims that the iPhone 6 dealt a crushing blow to Android and Samsung were flat out wrong. Apple knew it, which is why they amped up their Android bashing campaign (including bashing Moto Maker while copying it for the Apple Watch) and started offering an Android phone trade in program (which no one is taking advantage of). After their huge 4th quarter, Apple is now back below 20% in market share, and this was BEFORE the S6 launched. Some Android flagships like the 3rd generation Moto X, the LG G4 and the new Nexus phones STILL haven't launched. So yes, it was propaganda, which is why Apple abandoned it in favor of hyping the Apple Watch 24x7 as soon as the S6 pre-order numbers were announced. A record number of Android phones - including flagships - will be sold in 2015, just as they were in 2014, 2013, 2012 etc. ...
  • 1- never made a claim of dealing a crushing blow to Android and Samesung, just that a record number had switched. 2-Copying Motomaker? Get real! 3-No one traded in their Android phone? LOL! 4-A record number of iPhones will be sold in 2015, just as they were in 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008........
  • Nah, you're talking out your bum here. You should have looked it up, especially before you doubled down on it. Absolutely HUGE numbers of people switched from Android with the iPhone 6. It's a freaking avalanche of switchers really.
  • Bill you should look at the sale numbers. Apple has been killing it and most of the reports show Apple on top.
  • "Apple fans were hoping that the iPhone 6 would lead to a stampede of premium smartphone fans away from Android to Apple,". Apple OWNS the premium smartphone market, selling more iPhones than all high-end Androids combined.
  • Good points. Details like this I too think are important in design of any product.
  • IPhone 6/6 Plus is the ugliest iPhone ever made since 1st generation. I currently use iPhone 5S and I just love it's design! (but my heart still belongs to Lumia 925) Sent from the iMore App
  • Yup. Lack of symmetry is basically the first thing I notice, and lots of phones just don't follow basic top-bottom symmetry, alignment of "complications" along the edges, etc. Many people say they will not notice such things, or the OEM themselves will believe customers won't notice those things, but they do at some level. There is inherent beauty in symmetry, and millions of years of evolution has it ingrained into us to interpret it that way. This design aspect is "inevitable" as Mr. Ive likes to say.
  • You mean Jony "Sir Hypocrite" Ive who bashed the Moto Maker as "lazy" and "abandoning the design responsibility to the consumers" on one hand and then BLATANTLY COPYING MOTO MAKER FOR THE APPLE WATCH? (Yes, it was direct, because Motorola offered Moto Maker for the 360 smart watch as well.) Please. Customers do at some level? Yes, they notice it RIGHT BEFORE THEY PUT A CASE ON THEIR PHONE TO PROTECT THEIR $750 INVESTMENT RIGHT? Again, this is merely justifying brand loyalty. That is all and nothing more.
  • Yup, customers indeed notice it at some level, they value it, and it's precisely the reason they put a case on it. You should prepare yourself for iMore articles about cases for Apple Watch's! They are coming.
  • I agree with you 100% Rene. Sent from the iMore App
  • Well, I had a good laugh.
  • Honestly, Mr Ritchie, What good is the SLIGHTLY better industrial design when the operating system is CONSISTENTLY 2-3 years behind what Android is doing. I wasted 3 months of 2015 TRYING to use an iPhone because they ARE built so well. But ultimately, it felt like i using a smartphone with training wheels and I had no choice but to sell it and go back to using my Moto X and Moto 360.
  • The industrial design isn't better at all. The only qualification for claiming that the industrial design is better is Rene's claiming that it is. It is common to what Apple fans do. They hunt for whatever differentiates their product from the competition and claims that the differentiator makes their product "better." They do this even when the differences change! Apple can add a feature and that makes it "better" in generation 1. Then they remove it in generation 3, and the Android phones that still have this feature are "clutter." Trust me, if it were the Samsung phones that were more symmetrical and the iPhones weren't, this column would not exist. Or if it did, Rene would claim that the iPhones are more "creative and artistic." Rene would claim that the iPhones are reminiscent of postmodern art instead of the crude mechanistic functionality that refrigerator and washing machine and component manufacturer Samsung is capable of, and these same peopl would agree 100%
  • Out of 800 million people maybe 0.1%, probably even fewer people, care about about the back of the fence, or how aligned the buttons on a phone are , so I'm still puzzled how Apple attained such dominance of the market. High-quality design alone can't be the reason, in fact, the haughtiness and smugness of articles such as these, or any Jony Ive interview actually are about the only weak point of Apple as of today. I wonder if the apps are truly the smoking gun of iOS and its dominance of the mobile market.
  • Occam's Razor suggests your made up statistics are made up. ;-)
  • Reposting this reply for maximum effect. The industrial design isn't better at all. The only qualification for claiming that the industrial design is better is Rene's claiming that it is. It is common to what Apple fans do. They hunt for whatever differentiates their product from the competition and claims that the differentiator makes their product "better." They do this even when the differences change! Apple can add a feature and that makes it "better" in generation 1. Then they remove it in generation 3, and the Android phones that still have this feature are "clutter." Trust me, if it were the Samsung phones that were more symmetrical and the iPhones weren't, this column would not exist. Or if it did, Rene would claim that the iPhones are more "creative and artistic." Rene would claim that the iPhones are reminiscent of postmodern art instead of the crude mechanistic functionality that refrigerator and washing machine and component manufacturer Samsung is capable of, and these same people would agree 100%
  • "if it were the Samsung phones that were more symmetrical and the