Vector 53: Regeneration with Guy, Georgia, and Dave [Explicit]

Vector 53: Regeneration with Guy, Georgia, and Dave [Explicit]

Vector is a news and analysis show focusing on the biggest stories, hottest trends, and most important issues in technology, past, present, and future. On this week's show, Rene is joined by Georgia Dow, Guy English, and Dave Wiskus, to announce the end of the current season of Vector and the launch of the next. Also: Google scanning email for child porn, tinkering to learn, Apple University, fear and reinvention, yelling on Twitter.

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Vector 53: Regeneration with Guy, Georgia, and Dave [Explicit]


Dave Grohl has famously bemoaned the removal of the human element from music. His acceptance speech for Foo Fighters most recent Grammy win is the most famous example. He also gave the keynote at South by Southwest a couple years ago on this topic. But I am not familiar with any instance that can reasonably be interpreted as him bemoaning the access to music technology allows for everybody.

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He's defended himself on those grounds, but the takeaway I got from Grohl's movie Sound City is "only people like me with a $70,000 analog console are making real music" (well, that and a strange new respect for Rick Springfield, of all people). So I think Wiskus' interpretation is defensible.

Disclaimer: I love Dave Grohl, I've seen multiple Foos live shows, I just think he's a little too get-off-my-lawn on this subject.

I am sad, Vector was my favorite show at Mobile Nations. I hope the team will keep with the format of more profound interviews on tech.

Rene, keep us posted about the new podcast's feeds. I don't want to miss them.

Vector isn't ending, just rebooting. Instead of me + guest, it'll be me + Georgia + Guy + Dave with occasional guests. We'll provide all the details soon.

The RSS/iTunes won't change.

Love the new Vector format, love the new regulars.

So one comment about the child porn/pedophile discussion. You omitted the definition: I am sure that when defined as "documenting the rape of a pre-pubescent child", we can all agree to bring out the rusty guillotine for the perpetrators. In the real world, however people have been arrested and in some cases tried and convicted for all of these:
* nude selfies "sexted" to friends
* innocent nude photos of ones children (such arrests were especially common in the Fotomat days of old)
* videos of fully clothed teenagers shot in a "provocative" manner
* photos of adults Photoshopped to look younger
* fictional written or drawn sex fantasies with underaged protagonists.

The fact is that the law does not distinguish very effectively between the former and latter forms of "child pornography". Does Google? Where do they draw the line? Have they published their criteria? These are all vitally important questions - and until we see the answers, we should all be very much against what Google is doing.

Meanwhile you have people like Sally Mann who published books of sexually suggestive nude photos of pre-pubescent children that were reviewed in Time and Newsweek and carried in major bookstores. The difference I suppose is that she is a talented photographer, while most others are not. But how does Google, even if does come up with clear, transparent definitions, create an algorithm for talent?