Vector 55: The ethics of copying with Ben Thompson

Vector 55: Turtles all the way down, with Ben Thompson

Vector is a news and analysis show focusing on the biggest stories, hottest trends, and most important issues in technology and popular culture. On this week's show, Apple university and the state of management training, Microsoft's stack ranking and how it affected the company, Samsung and Xiaomi and the idea of legal vs. ethical vs. smart copying, the success and failures of innovation vs. imitation for companies and the economy, app design copying and what it means for designers, John Gruber's iPhone 6 math and the importance of touch target size, and native advertising in the context of podcast and RSS sponsorships. With Georgia Dow, Guy English, Dave Wiskus, Rene Ritchie, and special guest Ben Thompson. Subscribe and listen along!

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Vector 55: Turtles all the way down, with Ben Thompson


Have yet to listen but looking at the image chosen for this podcast I'm wondering if this is gonna be a apple envy podcast where everyone just praises apple on everything and just pure bashing on others lol

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It was a great discussion, I don't like it when everyone just agrees with each other, you don't really get much out of it. Was great to see different views on the whole Samsung and apple stuff and the native ad discussion.

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So just listened to it, don't know who it was but was good to see there was one person who didn't just side with apple with everything.

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Mr. Wiskus, your disagreements make the show have a welcome characteristic about them. Please René, have Wiskus and Thompson more often on the show for, as you said so yourself, agreeing makes show a tad boring. Georgia, you have really good interviewing qualities.

Eveeyone takes inspiration from their competitors. However Apple seem to be getting a pass here. Apple are clearly copying existing trends by making a larger iPhone, which I don't have a problem with. However, rather than call it what it is, I'm hearing excuses about it always being part of Apple's plan anyway.

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Exactly, when apple copies it's part of the plan or its OK but anyone else does it it's criminal.

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I like Vector but it's extremely slanted. Here is some evidence from this show:
- Android users only use their phones because carriers give them away for free
- If Android users tried an iPhone, they would realize its better
- Apple is the only high end phone company
- Android copied everything, Apple invented everything and only iPhone owners can have an opinion about what a great phone is (surprise, it's the iPhone!)