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	<title>Comments on: Apps in Need of Rejection: Ones That Steal Your iPhone Number and Call You to Up-sell</title>
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		<title>By: max</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-86900</link>
		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am an iphone developer. To avoid the app stealing your phone number. You can change your phone number in the &quot;phone setting, below the &quot;mail, Contacts, calender&quot; &quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the &quot;core telephony framework&quot;, apple does not provide any method to let the developers to access to the phone&#039;s number.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hope this will help :D&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an iphone developer. To avoid the app stealing your phone number. You can change your phone number in the &#8220;phone setting, below the &#8220;mail, Contacts, calender&#8221; &#8220;.</p>

<p>In the &#8220;core telephony framework&#8221;, apple does not provide any method to let the developers to access to the phone&#8217;s number.</p>

<p>Hope this will help <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bugs</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81658</link>
		<dc:creator>bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just file fcc violations since you have by fcc rules regulation give out your number no company can phisher it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;its against the law to solicit a cell phone in the united states also you never have to register a cell number on the do not call list. its automatic.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just file fcc violations since you have by fcc rules regulation give out your number no company can phisher it. </p>

<p>its against the law to solicit a cell phone in the united states also you never have to register a cell number on the do not call list. its automatic.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chrstphr.ross</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81637</link>
		<dc:creator>chrstphr.ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;also, i find it funny that we cant say c-r-a-p without it being censored.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, i find it funny that we cant say c-r-a-p without it being censored.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chrstphr.ross</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81636</link>
		<dc:creator>chrstphr.ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@pieroxy&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m totally with you.  If you didn&#039;t know computers could do this, well.....you probably should go back to pen and paper.  Face it, that&#039;s the nature of computers.  You install somethings, you&#039;re giving it access.  It&#039;s a risk, but it&#039;s one that all of us take evertime we boot up a PC that came preloaded with ton of crap-ware.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s just another research tool for development and advertising.  Welcome to the 21st century.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pieroxy</p>

<p>I&#8217;m totally with you.  If you didn&#8217;t know computers could do this, well&#8230;..you probably should go back to pen and paper.  Face it, that&#8217;s the nature of computers.  You install somethings, you&#8217;re giving it access.  It&#8217;s a risk, but it&#8217;s one that all of us take evertime we boot up a PC that came preloaded with ton of crap-ware.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s just another research tool for development and advertising.  Welcome to the 21st century.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81629</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Aaron: exactly what I was thinking. I&#039;ll have to becareful. Thnx.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron: exactly what I was thinking. I&#8217;ll have to becareful. Thnx.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81607</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Joseph The apps on Cydia are even more dangerous. They are not policed by anyone. Jail breaking is a HUGE risk for your most personal data. all it takes is 1 wrong download and all of your data belongs to someone else.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joseph The apps on Cydia are even more dangerous. They are not policed by anyone. Jail breaking is a HUGE risk for your most personal data. all it takes is 1 wrong download and all of your data belongs to someone else.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: HungWell</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81601</link>
		<dc:creator>HungWell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t understand why you won&#039;t name names. I&#039;d like to know which apps exhibit this behavior and depend on this site for info like that. You&#039;re only protecting them but not saying who it is.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you won&#8217;t name names. I&#8217;d like to know which apps exhibit this behavior and depend on this site for info like that. You&#8217;re only protecting them but not saying who it is.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81599</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What about the apps on Cydia?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the apps on Cydia?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael Denney</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81591</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Denney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No phone calls or text messages here but I imagine it&#039;s only a matter of time.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No phone calls or text messages here but I imagine it&#8217;s only a matter of time.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pieroxy</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81589</link>
		<dc:creator>pieroxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Come on! And the next headline will be: &quot;WARNING: Installing an application on your PC gives it access to your hard drive !!! ZOMG, we should call the police.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How is this even a headline? Installing an app has always meant that the app has access to your device, that is your contacts, SMS, mails, all the f***ing stuff that is on your phone!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh well....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on! And the next headline will be: &#8220;WARNING: Installing an application on your PC gives it access to your hard drive !!! ZOMG, we should call the police.&#8221;</p>

<p>How is this even a headline? Installing an app has always meant that the app has access to your device, that is your contacts, SMS, mails, all the f***ing stuff that is on your phone!</p>

<p>Oh well&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gregory Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81587</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I haven&#039;t received phone calla but I have been getting annoying ass text messages. I was so confused at first because I don&#039;t put my telephone number anywhere but now it all makes sense.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t received phone calla but I have been getting annoying ass text messages. I was so confused at first because I don&#8217;t put my telephone number anywhere but now it all makes sense.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: melwan</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81570</link>
		<dc:creator>melwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@icebike:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I understand the logging of the phone number part, and yes, u r correct. I have no way of knowing if the number had been logged or not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My question though was about how common is it that people receive phone calls about advertising for paid apps? I haven&#039;t received a single phone call personally, but do people experience this a lot? that was my intended question.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@icebike:</p>

<p>I understand the logging of the phone number part, and yes, u r correct. I have no way of knowing if the number had been logged or not.</p>

<p>My question though was about how common is it that people receive phone calls about advertising for paid apps? I haven&#8217;t received a single phone call personally, but do people experience this a lot? that was my intended question.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rajiv</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81522</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@JesusBonJovi&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As an additional note to your link, I would suggest downloading PrivaCy from Saurik&#039;s repository in Cydia. One can use it to disable the usage tracking prevalent in iPhone apps.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JesusBonJovi</p>

<p>As an additional note to your link, I would suggest downloading PrivaCy from Saurik&#8217;s repository in Cydia. One can use it to disable the usage tracking prevalent in iPhone apps.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JesusBonJovi</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81512</link>
		<dc:creator>JesusBonJovi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;for some more info on how Apps are and can spy on you check out http://i-phone-home.blogspot.com/ i&#039;ve been recently thinking about this very issue.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for some more info on how Apps are and can spy on you check out <a href="http://i-phone-home.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://i-phone-home.blogspot.com/</a> i&#8217;ve been recently thinking about this very issue.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81505</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another reason to get an iPod Touch, and ditch the phone! Kidding on the second part. The first is serious.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason to get an iPod Touch, and ditch the phone! Kidding on the second part. The first is serious.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dev</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81502</link>
		<dc:creator>Dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Randy&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So wait, people should stop complaining about a process because it failed completely at its stated goal of keeping &#039;bad things&#039; off the platform? I might &lt;em&gt;almost&lt;/em&gt; give Apple the benefit of the doubt for each app rejected when an icon looks off if it actually protected the underlying platform.  But now to the litany of foolish and petty rejections we can add concrete proof that the process fails to catch legitimate issues -- and that is supposed to make us like this process &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt;?   Umm, no.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Randy</p>

<p>So wait, people should stop complaining about a process because it failed completely at its stated goal of keeping &#8216;bad things&#8217; off the platform? I might <em>almost</em> give Apple the benefit of the doubt for each app rejected when an icon looks off if it actually protected the underlying platform.  But now to the litany of foolish and petty rejections we can add concrete proof that the process fails to catch legitimate issues &#8212; and that is supposed to make us like this process <em>more</em>?   Umm, no.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SpiceRak2</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81501</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiceRak2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And legislation to protect consumers from this is...???&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And legislation to protect consumers from this is&#8230;???</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81498</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@icebike: we&#039;ve asked about that and the standard reply is either: 1) for location tagging, so they can show where what kind of music is listened to (and likely aggregate it and maybe sell it), and 2) for assigning which server gets hit based on proximity, which aside from some underwater continental lines, really shouldn&#039;t be much of a bottleneck these days..&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@icebike: we&#8217;ve asked about that and the standard reply is either: 1) for location tagging, so they can show where what kind of music is listened to (and likely aggregate it and maybe sell it), and 2) for assigning which server gets hit based on proximity, which aside from some underwater continental lines, really shouldn&#8217;t be much of a bottleneck these days..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: icebike</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81492</link>
		<dc:creator>icebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@melwan:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How would you know if your number was being logged?  The image above is from a proof of concept application, not a real one, so you would never see that display.  But that does not mean that it isn&#039;t being logged.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m always a little suspicious when an app crashes the first time you run it and never crashes again.  Did the developer put the phone number in memory and cause a crash so that it shows up in their crash logs?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The other thing I&#039;m suspicious of is apps that constantly nag me to use GPS when the App has no reason to do so.  Why does Shazam need to know where I am?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@melwan:</p>

<p>How would you know if your number was being logged?  The image above is from a proof of concept application, not a real one, so you would never see that display.  But that does not mean that it isn&#8217;t being logged.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m always a little suspicious when an app crashes the first time you run it and never crashes again.  Did the developer put the phone number in memory and cause a crash so that it shows up in their crash logs?</p>

<p>The other thing I&#8217;m suspicious of is apps that constantly nag me to use GPS when the App has no reason to do so.  Why does Shazam need to know where I am?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: melwan</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81491</link>
		<dc:creator>melwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I tried well over 800 apps (currently I have ~30 apps on my iPhone).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I haven&#039;t experienced this a single time, not once.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How common is this?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried well over 800 apps (currently I have ~30 apps on my iPhone).</p>

<p>I haven&#8217;t experienced this a single time, not once.</p>

<p>How common is this?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Randy mcmillan</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81487</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy mcmillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They can retrieve just about anything....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is the reason why the app approval process is so important!!!  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So developers stop whining about the app approval process!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ever hear of a keylogger.....imagine one on your iPhone!!!  Enough said!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can retrieve just about anything&#8230;.</p>

<p>This is the reason why the app approval process is so important!!!  </p>

<p>So developers stop whining about the app approval process!!!</p>

<p>Ever hear of a keylogger&#8230;..imagine one on your iPhone!!!  Enough said!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: icebike</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/09/29/apps-rejection-steal-iphone-number-call-upsell/comment-page-1/#comment-81466</link>
		<dc:creator>icebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Macworld.com also ran an article on this:
http://tinyurl.com/y8suuhe&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apparently its easy for app developers to get and log your phone number, which leads one to ask just what other info they can get.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macworld.com also ran an article on this:
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/y8suuhe" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y8suuhe</a></p>

<p>Apparently its easy for app developers to get and log your phone number, which leads one to ask just what other info they can get.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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