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Apple's iPhone 7 event is happening?!

Yes! Apple has made it's annual September event official: September 7, 2016, at 10 a.m., iMore and a plethora of media and analysts from around the world will gather at the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in San Francisco, California and witness the unveiling of… what exactly? Let's take a look!

Hold on, back up, where and when is it exactly?

Apple's invitation reads as follows:

Please join us for an invitation-only event at the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in San Francisco on Wednesday, September 7, at 10:00 a.m. [PT]

Apple will be streaming it, right?

Yup! Just like all events of the last few years, you'll be able to follow along via (opens in new tab) on iPhone, iPad, and Mac, and the Apple Events app on Apple TV.

Bill Graham Civic Auditorium rings a bell?

It should. It's where the iPhone 6s event was, and where the WWDC 2016 keynote took place. It's big enough to fit a huge demo area, like it did for Apple TV 4 last September, or a huge amount of people, like it did for WWDC in June.

What did the invitations look like? Any clues?

Look up! Apple's graphics design department isn't typically disclosed on new hardware, but the company does love to tease.

  • See you on the 7th could mean September 7th, or on a device bearing the name and number 7.
  • The Apple logo being composed of multicolor lights, with significant bokeh, could be a nod to what the new camera is capable of.

Tell me about this iPhone 7!

The safest bet in tech right now is that Apple will announce iPhone 7 — or whatever the company ends up calling their next-generation pocket computer — on September 7. Once upon a time, iPod ruled the fall, but for last four years it's been an iPhone event and there's absolutely no reason to think that'll stop now.

For the last two years, we've also gotten two sizes of iPhone: The big at 4.7-inches and the bigger at 5.5-inches. This year that should translate into iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus.

Here are the most commonly rumored new features for iPhone 7:

  • DCI-P3 wide color gamut with True Tone support.
  • 3 GB of memory
  • 32 GB of storage to start, 256 GB option.
  • Apple A10 system-on-a-chip. (With even more on-device AI/ML hooks.)
  • Increased water resistance. (Begun with iPhone 6s.)
  • Dual-lens camera for better low-light and depth-of-field. (Plus only.)
  • Piano black color option.

It's also widely rumored to exclude the venerable 3.5mm headphone jack, opting for Lightning and wireless headphone support.

Read our full iPhone 7 rumor roundup

What about Apple Watch 2?

The original Apple Watch was shown off at the iPhone 6 event in September of 2014. What better time to show off Apple Watch 2 — or whatever Apple ends up calling their next-generation wrist computer — that at the iPhone 7 event in September of 2016? The two devices go together like starships and shuttlecraft, after all…

Here are the most commonly rumored new features for Apple Watch 2:

  • Apple S2 computer-on-a-chip
  • GPS
  • Enhanced health and fitness tech.
  • New bands for the fall.

It's easy to equate Apple Watch 2 with iPhone 3G or iPhone 3GS — an even more mainstream model aimed not at upgraders but at those who have yet to buy any Apple Watch. And that's a good way to think about it. Especially if the rumors about Apple Watch 1 sticking around at a reduced price prove true…

Read our full Apple Watch 2 rumor roundup

And the iPads Pro 2? iPad Pro 2 devices? Whatever! Tell me!

9.7-inch iPad Pro

9.7-inch iPad Pro (Image credit: Rene Ritchie / iMore)

Last September saw the introduction of the 12.9-inch iPad Pro. Last March, the 9.7-inch iPad Pro. That makes the former a year old, the latter only six months. While Apple went from iPad 3 to iPad 4 in that space of time, the 9.7-inch iPad Pro is no iPad 3. Most recently, some iPads have gone more than a year without update. (Sorry, iPad mini.)

It'd be great to see an updated 12.9-inch iPad Pro that supported:

  • 12-megapixel, 4K imaging
  • DCI-P3 color gamut and True Tone
  • Apple A10X system-on-a-chip

And a 9.7-inch iPad Pro that supported:

  • USB 3.0
  • Apple A10X system-on-a-chip

Those types of updates could be done in passing during the keynote, or dropped into press releases, but given the relative newness of the line, the longer update cycles of recent years, and the lack of iPad-specific features in iOS 10.0, it feels like next year is more likely than this year. Perhaps next spring to coincide with iOS 10.3?

Especially given the rumors of a more dramatic hardware update as well.

Read our full iPad Pro 2 devices rumor roundup

Any chance of Apple TV 5?

Apple TV (2015) review

The original Apple TV deputed before the original iPhone. Apple TV 2 hit in 2010. Apple TV 3 in 2012. Apple TV 4, a year ago in 2015. It seems unlikely that a device updated every 2-3 years will suddenly get a year-over-year update.

Still, there are rumors:

  • 4K and possible HDR video support
  • iTunes 4K/HDR
  • Apple A9 system-on-a-chip

If Apple wants to iterate quickly and keep last year's model to lower the cost of entry, which the 2012 model does now, it's possible we'll see something new. Next year feels more likely, though.

New Macs, though, right? RIGHT?!

macOS Sierra: An update as big as the mountains

Three-quarters of the year is over and the only Mac that's been updated is the new MacBook, which got Skylake M back in March. Certainly, no one outside or inside Apple is ecstatic about that. So, September must be the perfect time to update all the Mac things?

Historically, not so much. I can't remember the last time Apple brought Macs to an iPod or iPhone show, and while you can never say never, October is the far more common fall refresh time for the Mac line.

Since the new MacBooks Pro won't be simple spec bumps, a lot has to come together not just from Intel and AMD, but from Apple as well. That's rumored to include:

  • Sleeker design
  • OLED function key row
  • Touch ID
  • USB-C and Thunderbolt 3

Along with a fancy 5K display to help reduce iMac envy, and USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 and processor updates for the rest of the line.

I want all of them as badly as you do, and as badly as Apple wants to ship them, but I'm not expecting them next week.

Read our full MacBook Pro rumor roundup

But all the software?

All of it. Almost. WWDC 2016 saw the unveiling of the latest versions of Apple's four software platforms:

The September event typically brings recaps of those new versions, along with a few new features tied to the new hardware, like iPhone 7 and Apple Watch 2. The gold master then drops at the event, and the final version follows a week or so later.

For macOS, we should get a release data as well, usually around the end of the month.

Any more things?

Apple can still surprise us. ResearchKit and CareKit, which have been near-miraculous for many in the industry, are two recent examples. That said, September events focus on iPhone, and iPhone remains Apple's biggest business.

Drop your predictions in the comments below!

Rene Ritchie

Rene Ritchie is one of the most respected Apple analysts in the business, reaching a combined audience of over 40 million readers a month. His YouTube channel, Vector, has over 90 thousand subscribers and 14 million views and his podcasts, including Debug, have been downloaded over 20 million times. He also regularly co-hosts MacBreak Weekly for the TWiT network and co-hosted CES Live! and Talk Mobile. Based in Montreal, Rene is a former director of product marketing, web developer, and graphic designer. He's authored several books and appeared on numerous television and radio segments to discuss Apple and the technology industry. When not working, he likes to cook, grapple, and spend time with his friends and family.

  • I swear to all that is apple. If they take away the headphone jack and make it the thinnest phone ever. I will kick Tim Cook in the balls myself. ogl > cal
  • I couldn't agree more! Stop with the thin silliness and add some slight thickness to it and more battery life!
  • Getting rid of the jack could provide more battery space.
  • Don't fool yourself. Apple is doing this to maximize their own profits. They will have nice expensive Lightening powered earbuds to sell you, and for those who absolutely must have their own, a headphone to Lightening adaptor will be available for $39, but as usual they will underestimate the demand and you'll wait 6 weeks for one.
  • People still use wires? I use Bluetooth headphones, so it doesn't matter to me.
  • So basically because you use Bluetooth, the world is so behind? Bluetooth audio sound horrible. I try not to use it when I can and stick with the audio jack.
  • Compressed digital music sounds horrible no matter what headphones you use. When I'm home, I use vinyl and a phonograph. I only use Bluetooth headphones when on the go. But even if I used wired headphones, the music would still sound like crap. Adding back the 3.5mm audio jack on the iPhone isn't going to change that.
  • Woaaaaaaaaaaa real audiophile in hereeee ~ you must be soo cooolll!! I can't believe I it!! I must be dreaming right? I've met audio expert right here!! Woooowwww Sent from the iMore App
  • Don't be sarcastic. It's annoying.
  • Says Mr. Sarcasm... or are you Mr. Irony at the moment?
  • What did I say that was sarcastic? Nothing, that's what.
  • They are not doing it for more battery space. They are doing it to make the phone thinner. Apple has never cared about sot or battery time. Like the op said it'd to make more sales. Apple might need the extra sales too with how well the 1+3,galaxys and the n6. I'm guessing it's not going to be real hard to get a iPhone this year. ogl > cal
  • Have you seen the iPod nano? It's barely 1mm thicker than its headphone port.
    Also, all the "leaked" photos of iPhone 7 are barely thinner if at all. Sent from the iMore App
  • Me personally, I'm rather have the headphone jack. The trade off isn't worth it for my uses. Same goes for a thinner iphone. I don't really want a thinner phone. I put a case on mine to make it thicker. Acutally i'd rather have it a half mm thicker and get more battery that way.
  • I agree 100%, if Apple is so taken on a thinner iPhone they should make it, as well as a thicker one that included audio jack AND bigger battery. I bet you and I could figure out which one sells more...
  • There would be no point of removing the headphone jack if they're going to include it in a newer model. People need to switch over to the new standard
  • What exactly is the new standard? Blue Tooth? And which version? The headphone jack is a standard.
  • Yes the headphone jack is a standard, a standard that's outdated. Floppy disks were a standard for storing data at one point, doesn't mean it has to be a standard forever
  • DannyJJK, please tell me what is wrong with the existing headphone jack standard? What doesn't it do that you need so badly? Outdated? Not when my headphones are compatible with all the audio sources in my life. There's audio beyond the computerized world, you know. And no, I don't want to buy a handy dongle so that I can plug in my headphones. Apple will not sell to me. Neither will Motorola, who tried this first.
  • A new port could provide better audio fidelity, and also removing the headphone jack gives Apple more interior space to work with which could be used for many things including a second speaker as the commenter below said. You say Motorola "tried" this first, how do you know they won't keep releasing phones without a headphone jack? The people I know who have bought said Motorola phone are very happy with it and not bothered about having no headphone jack. Of course it's up to you at the end of the day, you'll have to go and buy an Android phone, but it looks like eventually the headphone jack will be gone on all devices
  • If apple is to add a second speaker to create a stereo sound, in place of the headphone, then I am all for it
  • Half mm is almost non existent...
  • It's not just the height of the headphone jack that restricts how slim the phone can be, it's also the fact that the internal part of it means that certain interior parts have to be placed on top of each other which makes the phone thicker. Removing the headphone jack would give Apple more interior space to work with, and they could use that to spread things out to make it thinner
  • Do just keep in mind that making a phone thicker with a bigger battery is also a matter of making the phone heavier. I never don't make it a full day no matter how much I beat up my 6S, so making it thicker and heavier would upset me since folks who can't put their phones down can always get a battery case, the others can't make the phone thinner or lighter.
  • Battery cases suck. More internal battery is the way to go. Android OEMs figured that out a long time ago.
  • They did figure that out, but my 6S Plus had better battery life than my S7 edge.
  • it is crazy. It's like an anorexic girl that doesn't know that enough is enough she's lost enough weight.
  • Apple has recently made choices in the design/features of the phone that just don't reflect what i want in a phone. The things they're adding are not at all selling points to me. As for the headphone jack it would be a sad loss especially since i have expensive headphones but I wouldn't be surprised. Tim Cook is not Jobs so i don't expect Jobs like products. Over time I'm come to think my future is an Android phone. Luckily i'm not buying a new phone for at least a year, maybe more so there is time for phones i like more but i'm not holding my breath.
  • We have better phones than we had under Jobs as much as I admire Steve, we must stop the BS thst we had better phones under him, we did not, the 4S, released shortly after he passed away wasn't anywhere near as good as the S2 which was even faster than the 4S back then, but not anymore. I love the iPhones we have under Tim Cook and we have more than just 1 iPhone a year under Tim. Although I too don't like Apple's obsession with thinness at the expense of battery life. Apparently, the iPhone 7 Plus is going to have a smaller battery than the 6s Plus, I don't care about thd removal of headphone jack but I do care if Apple remove the home button because for me that would make the iPhone nothing more than an Android clone and further proof that Apple is losing its way. Sent from the iMore App
  • Yes, we did have better phones under Steve. Better than anything else on the market AT THE TIME! Of course most things improve over time, as do phones. But the 7 to me and many others so far sounds like overkill and literally a step backwards. I hope I'm wrong.
  • Thd only iPhone that was Better than the competition under Steve Jobs was the iPhone 4. We have better iPhones now not necessarily better than the competition but better than what we had under Steve Jobs. Sent from the iMore App
  • Are you insane. Apple's innovative edge is dead after Jobs. He was the one who just knew what direction a hardware needs to go before the users knew what they want. You don't care about headphone jack going away because you probably only use Apple earphones. Save your ears and always use bigger headphones.
  • Just like when he said users would never want a big screen phone?
  • If Steve Jobs were still running the place that headphone jack would have been years ago. And he would have given you the finger for complaining about it.
  • +1. Steve set people straight, he knew what was right for the consumer even if they thought they knew themselves
  • If Steve Jobs was running the place we would have a headphone jack and a 3.5" iPhone still.
  • That's not the Steve Jobs I knew, I knew the one who was for pushing new technology whether people liked it or not, as soon as he felt it was ready to work
  • Steve Jobs was the one who said that no one needed or wanted a big screen phone.
  • At the time they didn't, things change that we can't predict
  • I can't wait for the headphone jack to go, watch people still buy the phone and then watch people stop complaining about it as they accept it's the norm! :)
  • they won't be the same people. others will just buy a phone with a headphone jack. If you need the jack then the product doesn't fit your needs and you get a different product.
  • Most of the people who say they don't want the headphone jack to go will still buy the phone. I've seen it before with changes on devices, look at all the people who bought the Samsung Galaxy S6 despite the fact it didn't have a microSD card slot. Of course there will be people who will move to another device, but only a few. If you want to stick with iOS you'll have to accept the change eventually
  • So you get what you want, and everyone else doesn't get what they want? You realize how rude that makes you sound? There's no reason to use an audio jack if you don't want to. But if you want to, or need to missing it is death to the iPhone. It's much easier to not using something that is there compared to trying to use something that is not there...
  • I never said people shouldn't get what they want, but it's Apple's decision at the end of the day. People would like the iPhone to be thicker so it can have a large battery and microSD support and filesystem support but it isn't going to happen. People want (or should want) new innovations in technology that improve the device, removing the headphone jack will do this. And people can still use their existing headphones, there will be an adapter
  • You can't wait for it to go? Does it really bother you that much to have a headphone jack that is virtually compatible with every headphone in the world? People will have to start shelling out lots more money. I still go to hotels that have the alarm clock with the docks of the old connector. They never upgraded to the lightning. Many people use a 3.5mm cord to connect their phone to the car radio. Now they will have to buy a $0.01 cord made in chona for "only $29", that will probably start ripping in a year.
  • So should we still have a DVD drive in Macs so you "still have the option" to use DVDs? And a floppy disk drive so you "still have the option" to use floppies? Technology moves on and that means removing things that you were used to using, but they change to something better, this is just the same. The lightning port is much better than what was on the iPhone 4S and lower, it was a good change, and removing the headphone jack will be too
  • No we shouldn't have dvd because there is something better.
    There is nothing better to replace the 3.5 jack. It's just something different not better. It's a pain the **** too.
  • It is better, do your research. A new port will improve audio quality and it'll be more durable
  • Yes Blu-ray.
  • The only thing I would imagine you'd need Blu-ray for is movies, of which why would you want to watch this on your Mac? Wouldn't you just have a Blu-ray player with your TV? It'd be a very obscure thing to have on the Mac
  • I hate that they seem to be removing the 3.5mm headphone jack but mostly because I tend to listen to music and charge my phone at the same time. This is a huge PITA if they take the jack away. I don't believe it is to make the phone slimmer though. I really believe that Apple is getting lots of heat from the music industry over the analog capabilities available to users (or thieves as the music industry seems to think of their customers as) and Apple needs to close the analog hole to keep getting access to music to sell in the crappy iTunes store. Back to the Lightning port replacing the headphone jack if Apple is going to include a 3.5mm jack to lightning converter (and they need to include it in the box and not charge us $19.99 to get the first one) it needs to include both a 3.5 mm jack alongside a lightning to lightning port so people can plug in both their headphones and charging cable at the same time. If they don't the first company that markets one will make a bloody fortune selling them.
  • I think you will be surprised as to what they might be including in with the iPhone .. just remember, they ALWAYS included a set of 3.5mm earpods .. whats to say that they are not including a new lightning port version of the earpods ?? Wait and see :)
  • CONFIRMED .. like I said .. EarPods with Lightning connector included in the box .. it was a no brainer !!!!!
  • I would love to see that lol.
  • You'll kick him in the balls, but you'll still buy the new iPhone I bet.
  • " the debut of iPhone 7 — or whatever Apple calls its next-generation handset-" Going by the invitation's title, I'd say it's a sure thing it will be called iPhone 7.
  • Also, the invitation has some bokeh lens artifacts forming the Apple logo, it must indicate the new iPhone's focus (pun intended) on the camera.
  • For sure. Perhaps the new dual lens camera system will be a game changer. We can only hope.
  • I'm sure it will be, just like it was on the LG G5. And Huawei P9.
  • Yay!!! Sooooooo excited!!!! Sent from the iMore App
  • My S7 edge is going up for sale. I will keep my 6S plus until after I get my iPhone 7 plus. Can't wait. Excited. Sent from the iMore App
  • Curious - I just flipped my 6s Plus for a Galaxy Note 7 - and I don't think I'll be the only nine year iPhone vet doing so...short of being a true 4x optical zoom, that dual camera setup is not going to be the game changer Apple will need to tide it over to the 10th anniversay model in 2017...
  • Well I'm hoping that it will at least be better than the camera on the S7 edge which is very good. Sent from the iMore App
  • I just sold my Note 7 in order to buy the iPhone 7. But, not because I didn't like the Note 7 or because I think the iPhone 7 is gonna be revolutionary. I'm just horrible with my money when it comes to phones, I need to have the newest phone out lol. I've had almost every flagship over the last few years, except the Sony Xperia X Performance.
  • Preorders on 09/09? Sent from the iMore App
  • Pretty likely, yes. Apparently Apple shipped 300k units already to the US, so the pre orders will start Friday. Sent from the iMore App
  • It will be named iPhone. no more numbers ....
  • They need to keep both the headphone jack and the number in the name.
  • 6 SE ... Next year will be iPhone X or The New iPhone (2017)
  • I doubt that. Plus the invitation implies that it's going to be called the iPhone 7, following the current naming scheme, which makes more sense
  • I would be in favor of this. Keep three sizes and do away with numbers just iPhone and decide which screen size is best for you. I can tell you I work at a carrier store and we have almost no iPhones in stock of any color or size Sent from the iMore App
  • Those upset about losing a headphone jack are also those who dismissed the ballyhoo w/the introduction of the automobile. "We don't need this metal atrocity, our horses have been working wonderfully for over a 1000 years!!!" Or, they're the curmudgeons bellyaching over a toddler on their lawns. Y'all want the most technologically advanced piece of consumer hardware but moan when advancements are made. Good grief. Sent from the iMore App
  • The car is a far cry better than the horse in virtually every aspect. Wireless headphones or adaptors to use a lightning headphone are not better or more convenient than the wired variety. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • "Wireless headphones or adaptors to use a lightning headphone are not better or more convenient than the wired variety." False... using the lighting port will be better than the 3.5mm jack because it's a digital port, not analog, and won't have the signal loss that comes with the 3.5mm jack. It has the potential for better sound quality (depends on the headset used of course). And what is the big deal with a little adapter. Can't understand the whining about that. You'll plug it onto the end of your headset and leave it on there. Don't unplug both the headset and the adapter, just unplug the adapter, leave it on the headset's 3.5mm plug. Sheesh, 1st world problems my goodness!
  • Yea people want adapters right? Just because apple said you don't need the headphone jack then you just suck it up and figure out how to do it the way they want you to. Not happening. And I own headphones I use at the gym, headphones I use at work, headphones I use for music listening, and yup a different set for when I travel. Soooo, where do I just leave the adapter and not unplug it?
  • I have different headphones for everything too but they're all wireless. I have no tolerance for cords.
  • I guess you don't use wired headphones while charging your iPhone.
  • "You'll plug it onto the end of your headset and leave it on there."
    How in the heck will i charge it?
  • It's all analog eventually. :p The big deal is that you close off a plethora of devices out on the market. You leave a lot of money on the table and for what? What are you really gaining? Probably not a lot of space. They may do it but it would be rather dumb to do so. It's a solution looking for a problem. Other than aesthetics it's not solving any huge problem, so far as I can see.
  • It's solving the problem of having an antiquated piece of technology on your device. It's using up more space than you think (if you think about how small some of the chips can be in your phone), it's lowering audio quality than what would be possible on a new port, and a new port would be more durable than the existing headphone jack
  • You do know that those digital signals are converted to an analog one so you can hear it, right? That means using the Lightning Port won't make any difference in sound output. Your headphones or earbuds are NOT digital. That's why there is a DAC in every phone.
  • oh wow i just realized yeah, my car is wired for a headphone jack. Yeah that kinda makes it a deal breaker since my phone with music on it is my car stereo.
  • Most modern cars these days have bluetooth. Makes sense that a new phone would be designed to work with modern cars
  • Maybe his car is a low end stripped model. I rented a totally stripped Dodge minivan recently that did not have Bluetooth or a USB port anywhere, but it did have a CD player and a 3.5mm input jack.
  • In a perfect world, a high-end phone would work with a low-end car. But that's just not going to happen
  • Well, just back in Jan I purchased a used 2010 Honda Pilot. It has AUX in but not BT. I too rely on that aux in jack. I will be buying a 6s+ after the price drop. But beyond that, if I still have the same car, I'll have to buy a new radio or add-on component to handle BT.
  • New tech requires new tech, more often than not
  • The automobile didn't take away horses. People had and still do have a choice. No one is against adding the option for Lightening (they actually exist already) or better Bluetooth headphones. We are objecting to them taking away our choice to use what we already have.
  • Good luck taking your horse on a highway. That's completely different, not to mention that's also the equivalent of people still having the choice of choosing a different phone because the iPhone won't have a headphone jack. People always have a choice, you can still go out and buy VHS players or USB floppy disk drives if you really desire.
  • Hyperbole. Regardless there was a study Forbes reported a poll that found "the removal of the headphone jack, probably the most-talked-about rumored change for the iPhone 7, would allow it to be water resistant. However, the removal of the headphone jack was considered a “drawback” by 64 percent of the respondents."
  • All smartphones will do away with the headphone jack in the next 1-2 years so everyone better get used to it and relax.
  • +1
  • How are others maintaining water resistance with the headphone jack??? Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Bad example. Cars are faster and obviously better. There is nothing better here. You have to buy apple authorized headphones, or they might not work. Or you will need to carry the adpter with you. All this to save a mm of thickness? How about some damned features. Galaxy is blowing away iphone lately.
  • There is nothing better from where you're standing because of your lack of technical knowledge. Using a different port, e.g. the lightning port, instead of the 3.5mm jack will improve audio quality and will also be using a much more durable port. The Galaxy has some really gimmicky features, the iPhone is getting to the point now where I can't think of many more useful features they can add. Of course we don't know what features it will have yet until the announcement :)
  • Durable really?!
    I can't tell you how many lightning cables of mine are freyedor the tip broke off. For the price apple charges for them I would expect much more durability. Granted the sound might be better, but 99% of people won't be able to tell the difference. Stop fooling yourself. Apple is doing this so that they can sell millions of adapters and license every set of headphones that has a lightning connector. Then if you want to use your headphones on another device, now they won't fit. You will need an adapter.
  • Apple's cables (the cable, not the end connector) are known to be bad quality and frey. You can buy good lightning cables from providers such as Anker so that's got nothing to do with the lightning connector/port. Also are Intel and Motorola doing it just to make money too? It seems slowly companies are moving in this direction, so there's more to it than just money…
  • So many of you are touting that lightning is better than 3.5 jack. This is inherently wrong and misleading. As many people have pointed out the signal MUST be converted to analog in order for speakers of any kind to reproduce it. Which means the sound quality is now in the hands of the headphones or the adapters we use. I can only imagine a cheap adapter is going to have a POS DAC built into it where as I have noticed that currently the iPhones have one of the better sounding DAC's directly out of the box that works with any headphones, whether they be cheap or astoundingly expensive. So many people don't understand how many headphones out there are amazing with the 3.5mm jack as long as the DAC is worthwhile. Furthermore, most bluetooth headphones are crap when it comes to true audio quality as, once again, the DAC is now at the mercy of the headphone manufacturers. Transferring audio to your car system via bluetooth, although more convenient, is also a much lower quality sound than using a hardwire directly from the 3.5 port.
    So no, lightning is not better than the 3.5 jack unless your new, now much more expensive, headphones have a good DAC in them.
  • Bingo
  • Finally! Someone who gets it. Sent from the iMore App
  • There is no good replacement for a tried and true audio jack. Two scenarios.
    1. Don't use something that is there. Doesn't get in the way of anything.
    2. Use something that is not there.... One of those doesn't work out good for anyone.
  • "Oh **** I can't put my floppy disk in my computer. Why couldn't they just include a floppy drive in case somebody wanted to use it?"
  • Floppy drives remained during the transitional phase.
  • Not on Macs they didn't. Apple's method of doing things is to force people to move on, it doesn't sound nice but it produces results. Apple have done this with quite a few things and each time it's got people to realize things are better this way, and other companies have followed. The iPhone didn't support Flash Player from the start because from the get-go Apple knew it was unoptimised, buggy and wouldn't provide a nice experience. Everyone got outraged, but Apple stuck to their game, and it worked. It pushed forward HTML5 video, people had to develop non-flash websites, and then Android also stopped supporting Flash Player. Keeping the headphone jack during the transitional phase will severely slow down the transition, it's one of those where it's best to "get it over and done with"
  • So what happens when I want to listen to music via a wired connection as well as charge my phone (something I have to do frequently with my work 6S)? Use a cumbersome adaptor or splitter? Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • What an awful analogy.
  • You said the exact same thing on the post that's a few down, it's a perfect analogy, do you not see the connection or something?
  • The invitation hints something about camera. More specifically may be camera aperture/focus/depth of field.
  • Well my iPhone 6 went swimming on Saturday maybe an upgrade is due ;D.
  • Shouda had an S7 lol
  • Not according to Consumer Reports. The S7 and the iPhone 6 came in equal on water resistance in their tests.... LOL
  • +1
  • Well luckily I had insurance on it and got an upgrade to an iPhone 6s :). Sent from the iMore App
  • the best thing would be keep the headphone jack another year but tell everyone the next iphone wont have the port anymore. that wouldnt be a big problem and people can change it slowly. but better we waterproof and a better battery.
  • When have Apple ever told people anything about the next iPhone before it's announced. You've just asked for the impossible. Plus if you're going to make a big change you might as well do it sooner rather than later, then at a later point more people will have moved over
  • the only reason to remove the headphone jack is to save money. that is the only reason. have Bluetooth headphones but still like to plug them in because i dont feel like charging more stuff
  • There are many more reasons than that. It'll save space on the phone to include maybe a bigger battery or whatever. Using a port such as the lightning port instead of the 3.5mm jack will provide improved audio quality. You can research further, but Apple isn't the only one doing away with the antiquated headphone jack
  • Removing the audio jack doesn't help water proofing any. The jack port can be sealed internally so no water problems to begin with.
  • There's many more reasons for removing the jack other than waterproofing
  • Nobody REALLY needs a 3.5mm headphone port on their phone. There are hundreds of different Bluetooth headphones out there. Some of them really good and not too expensive. And they actually make using headphones with a phone a comfortable activity. Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • I agree. I love my wireless headphones. When working out it is so much better. Sent from the iMore App
  • Bluetooth sucks. And, yes, there are needs for a headphone port. Maybe for you, that's fine. You don't have to use something that is there if you don't want. But try to use something that is not there?
  • Yeah I have a real hard time putting floppies into my computer because the floppy drive "isn't there". Or maybe technology just moved on?
  • Ridiculous analogy.
  • How so? People want to keep an old piece of technology on the device for the sake that "it still works" and "they still use it". When the floppy drive was removed people said the exact same thing, it's a perfect analogy
  • where I work we cannot have Bluetooth equipment, no Bluetooth headphones, keyboards, mice or speakers going to be a lot of unhappy Apple users if there are no headphones
  • There will still be a way to use wired headphones
  • "There are hundreds of different Bluetooth headphones out there." And none of them are better than a decent set of wired 'phones. Of course, if you're happy with bluetooth headphones, be my guest.
  • Although, it drives me crazy that iPhones, and Android phones, become thinner and thinner. Give me a thick heavy phone with 12000mAh battery and I'll be happy! Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • No matter what they do, they will sell millions. I personally don't use the headphone jack because wireless headphones are so convenient for me. I can see why this will upset a lot of people though. Sent from the iMore App
  • I don't mind if they remove the headphone jack, so long as they replace the Lightning connector with a USB C one. It's already on the MacBook, and is becoming ubiquitous on most other flagship phones. Adopting this would mean folks would require fewer different cables and would make life easier for manufacturers and consumers of wired headphones.
  • USB C is not that great. The Apple connector is much stronger, less effort and just works. Plus, it's common enough that right now it'd be harder to get USB C stuff than it is to get Apple stuff. USB C is also quite a bit more fragile and easy to break. Not a good move IMHO.
  • Not true. I have a Lumia 950 that uses a USB c and it is superior in all ways to the lightning charger. And not nearly as fragile, not even close. Sent from the iMore App
  • The banner is about bokeh, so it has to do something with the iPhone's camera. I'm wondering if it'll have some Lytro-like capabilities, where you can focus/blur any part of the photos after you've taken one. Sent from the iMore App
  • What a shame if this camera-focus improvement only will apply to the plus model... Sent from the iMore App
  • Good, now we will have dates and times when products will be released and software will be available to the general public, so iMore can now write about products that the general public CAN use. I appreciate the need to speculate on unreleased items, but all the dozens of articles on here about iOS 10, Watch 2, Sierra, et al, have nothing to do with what 99% of Apple customers are using TODAY. The normal average every day user is not in the Developer program and therefore is not running iOS 10 or MacOS Sierra, but maybe that isn't the user iMore is writing for, and I need to stick to sites that write about currently available products and how to get the most out of them.
  • Well, we do know this for sure. It will be another typical Apple parade of adjectives. Someone should keep count of how many times we hear that the new iphone is:
    Breathtaking, gorgeous, beautiful, stunning, amazing, brilliant, etc. Of course they will say 5000 times that it is "the most advanced iphone apple has ever built". As if anyone expected them to build a less advanced phone.
  • It makes for a fun drinking game :)
  • how about no ports at all..
    Wireless charging, data transfer over wifi and lossless audio over bluetooth. Thats advancement...
  • That'd be interesting. But I'd still want an audio port. Audio is all about analog, wireless music is useful, but so is an audio jack.
  • There will still be an audio port on the new iPhone, it just won't be the 3.5mm jack
  • oh the apple trolls at there best. in fact the latest devices didnt sell as well at they use to. no line up for the 6s very few ipad pros were sold and now they better get good hardware out. samsung just killing them right now. when i hear iphone 5se yeah some people like to have a smaller phone. sure they do but i dont think they want a 4 inch screen. i hope for a 5.1 inch 2k screen. waterproof and better battery life.
  • iOS is light and efficient it doesn't need the hardware specs that Android neesd. How many times have you fandroids said this? Yeah Samsung is outselling Apple most places but not in thd UK where I live. 2K resolution is subjective and isn't essential except for VR, otherwise 1080p is fine. You're the one who's trolling bub as this is an Apple centric site. Sent from the iMore App
  • Samsung uses greed for their sales. Most interesting thing is all the "Samsung" added features usually go unused. And getting support for these features is terrible. Samsung is the poster child of the Android fragmentation problems. Apple puts in their newer devices quality stuff that's been well tested. At least usually they do. That's why everyone is on edge about the 7, as Apple appears to be trying too hard to make changes now and I'm afraid it's going to bite them.
  • One thing Rene left out of this Preview article - no matter what Apple announces, even if it's already been done by Android, Blackberry or Windows Phone, it will be heralded as the greatest iteration of said invention. Ever. :)
  • As a musician, losing the headphone port is definitely NOT a feature. In fact its a reason for me to buy an android. What am I losing? The ability to continue to use my midi instruments with my phone. (bluetooth has WAY too much latency to be used for playing an instrument through it). I'm losing the ability for my phone to work with my old car stereo. After all, that car still has a tape player (no inputs) so I use an old school 1/8" to tape converter which actually sounds decent. And what about using my phone as an mp3 player to connect to my mixing board? Now I have to use a lightning adapter for all of the above...which means I can no longer charge my phone while using if the battery is low, I no longer have a synth, mp3 player, etc. If they make us use an adapter, they BETTER include a power cable that can be used in conjunction. If that happens, I will be ok with losing the headphone port....but they better include some Beats bluetooth headphones as a standard.
  • A simple lightning to analog adapter and you are all set. Sent from the iMore App
  • What the commenter above said, all you need is an adapter, you're being a bit over-dramatic about this
  • Turns out my fears of not having a CD drive on my macbook pro were unwarranted. So somehow I think I can get along without a headphone jack. The only thing I really want is to be able to travel with fewer chargers. I now take 4 with me, 3 apple. and 1 for a bluetooth speaker.
  • Apple removes things for a reason, and what you said is exactly right. There will still be a way to use your wired headphones, it'll just need an adapter, as long as you remember that then there's still no need for charging :)
  • Tim Cook is just a big joke and and Lisa is not much better Sent from the iMore App
  • Now all you all you all seal get real close to Timmy cook and clap every time he says any remotely funny like a seal at feading time at the zoo time and the rest of his dum *** people crag f is just a second rate designer at best and john ivy is a joke too Sent from the iMore App
  • Why are you here? It doesn't sound like you like Apple very much…
  • Grammar is your friend. Can't even read that. Posted via the Note 5 or iPhone 6s Plus
  • I have a 6S and it was purchased for the better camera. While on vacation, I was taking some pretty darn good photos until my sister-in-law walked up and blew my iPhone away with her Galaxy. The pictures on the Galaxy where clearer and brighter. She did NOT make any adjustments before taking the pictures. Apple, please improve the camera and battery life!!!!!!! Oh, I also keep a case on my phone so I will feel like I have something substantial in my hand. Smaller is not always better!!!!
  • Good news, the camera is MUCH improved :)
  • This will be the most boring iPhone launch ever. Without a structural change of the phone it self or a jump in speed by 10x. Who cares, and really people so we loose the headphone jack. Move on, did you complain when Steve removed the 3.5 disk too? It's not the end of the world. Sent from the iMore App
  • Steve would've removed the headphone jack a long time ago, he wouldn't have cared about the outcry because he knows how to move things forward
  • This will be the most boring iPhone launch ever. Without a structural change of the phone it self or a jump in speed by 10x. Who cares, and really people so we loose the headphone jack. Move on, did you complain when Steve removed the 3.5 disk too? It's not the end of the world. It's only another iPhone. Sent from the iMore App
  • just one question why was Tim Cook on cspan I think saying the phone to purchase will be the anniversary edition? Oh and my Gear S2 Watch already is independent of the Note 7. Yes I held on to my Apple Watch on the off chance I come back but I am in no rush. I do still have my iPad and iPod so I will try 10 on those
  • As a devout Wind Mobile customer and someone who plans to keep his phone for a few years,
    I am looking for LTE band 66. If they have band 66, Wind's new 600mhz band, I will pre-order a 256gb iPhone 7 plus in black. If there is no band 66 support I'm going to give it a miss!
  • "Increased screen resolutions of 1920x1080 (1080p) for the 4.7-inch and 2560x1440 (2K) for the 5.5-inch" Where has this been reported other than iMore? This coupled with dual lens camera, waterproofing and a space black color would be a game changer. What's not a game changer is that douchy look on Rene's face. Sent from the iMore App
  • Regarding the potential loss of the micro headphone jack (which I use frequently)... ... I can't wait to purchase the new, slimmer, ultra-stylish, official Apple iCochlear Implants (in Gold, please) so I never have to worry about earbud/headphone cables again. xD
  • It said my comment was centered goodness knows we wouldn't want to hurt Apple little feeling Sent from the iMore App
  • A sturdier phone is more appealing to me than a thin one. I don't want it to be so thin and light that it feels like it will fall out of my hand. Make them solid! We're forced to use cases because they're vulnerable so they're then thicker anyway.
  • I'm planning to get an iMac end of this year. Currently using MBP (2015), but I need more horsepower and larger display.
    iPhone 7/6SE seems disappointing. Sent from the iMore App
  • "reduce iMac envy "
  • Everyone's gonna have a harsh opinion about the loss of the headphone jack until they don't anymore. Once it's the new standard, because Apple sets the standard, people will be saying how great it is and purposely forgetting their comments here. Everyone bitched about losing the 30 pin & those same people wouldn't go back to that now. Also, to complain about having to buy adapters to start integrating all your things with your $700 phone- that's like complaining about having to buy new shoes to match your tuxedo. Most will still buy iPhones. Those that don't can go to Android and ***** about those phones for a year before they come back to Apple and embrace the jackless phone with their tail between their legs.
  • The removal of the headphone jack is the same as all the past upgrades of technology, the old gets removed and replaced with something new and better, people just can't see it yet
  • gooooooooooooooood
  • good
  • People who want to go to heaven....dont wanna die..!!! You want technology to grow on one side and another side you are worried about stupid cheap wired headphones..!!! Grow up..!!! Its 2016 we want technology to grow..!!!!! Sent from the iMore App
  • Gauravpashine26 I agree 1000%.
  • +1
  • I want people to stop using extraneous punctuation but you can't always get what you want.
  • Extraneous: "irrelevant or unrelated to the subject being dealt with" It seems pretty relevant to me. People are exaggerating so much about the loss of the headphone jack, I think someone like gauravpashine26 needs to stand up and say it as it is, the multiple punctation conveys how silly he thinks it is. Pretty relevant
  • He/she used ellipses and multiple exclamation marks. Completely unnecessary.
  • It's called venting frustration, everyone has the right to express the way they feel, however they want (albeit the website censors swears so maybe not via swearing)
  • is much to see, I'm countdown Sent from the iMore App
  • Then how about Apple adding hardware features like waterproofing and fast charging which it's Android competitors have had for years? All we seem to hearing is thd headphone jack being removed which I'm fine with but what about adding those other features too? I know people say the 6s and 6s Plus are water resistant but until Apple says otherwise I'll have my doubts. Sent from the iMore App
  • Just look up water resistant tests on YouTube, apparently it's got about the same water resistance as the Samsung Galaxy. Plenty of people have tested this out so you don't have to. As for fast charging, just plug an iPad cable into the phone :)
  • I know about using the iPad charger for a faster change but it's still not as quick as fast charge on most Android phones and wiyh Samsung's Galaxy flagships you can at least use your phone underwater, you can't do that with the 6s and 6s Plus. Sent from the iMore App
  • The last I heard, these fast charing phones are blowing up and Samsung is recalling them.
  • +1
  • Is there no way to watch the event on a Windows 10 machine? I thought last year we could?
  • You'll have to watch it through Edge.
  • I think that that Apple Watch Jew will have a camera added on for FaceTime I'll probably remove the phone app and probably adding GPS and complete independence from the iPhone Sent from the iMore App
  • What's an Apple Watch Jew? Sent from the iMore App
  • Oy vey.
  • I'm looking forward to the iPhone 7+ but I really would like a refresh of the iPad Pro 12.9 better color gamut/true tone a10x, plus Touch ID 2. Oh and the possible new colors iPhone 7/7+ come in. Sent from the iMore App
  • Where's the 6" iPhone?
  • Is this 1pm EST? Sent from the iMore App
  • 1pm EST
  • Thanks! 30 mins!!! Sent from the iMore App
  • I can't wait, hmmm gloss black or matte, leaning towards matte, less fingerprints and always liked my electronics matte Sent from the iMore App
  • I'm Looking forward to the price drop on the pro when the pro 2 comes out. I just bought a 128G air 2... but I want a pro now Sent from the iMore App
  • A SE in black would be welcomed, as long as they let me keep my headphone jack
  • Yea, no kidding. Glad I'm getting an SE... but what to do after that?
  • Good luck holding onto your headphone jack for as long as you can, but eventually you'll have to accept that it's gone now
  • Super excited about the event!
  • Oh check the apple apps on appstore, New shape design new appppssssss
  • 5 minutes Sent from the iMore App
  • Watching from my Windows 10 laptop with Edge because the live broadcast won't open on Safari on my iMac! I hope MacOS Sierra fixes the bag of hurt that is Safari. The live broadcast should be supported on ANY browser in 2016... Posted via the iMore App for Android
  • Why the live blog? This isn't a news site any longer, right?
  • What? Most tech news sites do live blogs, and iMore (also back when it was TiPb) has done live blogs for as long as I remember
  • I'm very into fitness and apple watch is garbage for it. I lov my Garmins nothing can bit it. Apple watch is just a toy or for amateurs
  • …which is why there's now Apple Watch Series 2, with many improvements that fix the previous issues
  • DCI P3 < Rec. 2020... Come on Apple
  • Those airpods are already falling out of my ears as I look at them
  • This talkshow thing is terrible. It's more like you guys are talking to each other about what you're seeing than showing us. The old style of liveblog with pictures was much better.
  • Whee!!!
    Wow! The presentation was Wonderful!! I'm still perfectly happy with my iPhone 6 but I do want those AirPods and/or one of those Beats X earbuds systems. The Watch is looking awfully tempting now too... Can't wait to see the iPhone 7s. That's probably when I'll upgrade. Sia, as usual, was simply amazing!! Thank you Tim for bringing her on!
  • Sorry Rene, I missed your Live Blog. Watched the whole event from Apple's website, live video feed. All the extra commentary was mine alone ;-)
  • As someone who's been an Apple evangelist for 30 years now, this is SO sad to watch/witness. :(
    Other than a few expected hardware advances, a total yawn-fest. That's not how Apple keynotes and hardware/software used to be.
  • I feel the exact same way, very disappointing Sent from the iMore App
  • -Whew! This live blog format is not very user friendly on a full-screen computer. Maybe works on a phone better....
    -Also was looking for an clear confirming comment: " yes, the jack is gone." Lots of suggestive comments, including an adapter included free, but I missed the overt declaration.. May be buried in the back and forth, but don't think so.
    - Good thing CNET provided a near-real-time clear summary without all of the silly chatter. They answered all my questions at a glance!
  • The jack is gone :)
  • Wow apple is coming out with their first water resistant dust proof phone. Amazing. It just sucks that the iPhone 7 is very expensive oh well. I'll stick with my lame Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime Phone with T-Mobile.
  • The iPhone is as expensive as it's always been, you're buying from Apple
  • Wow! CNN is sure getting this wrong, asking their so-called experts to summarize the two-hour presentation in less than 30 seconds. Their primary take-away: Apple has eliminated the audio jack "forcing their customers to go wireless" and then complaining about the cost of the AirPods.
    Pictures of, but no words about the audio adapter and Lightning earpods included in the box with the iPhone.
  • wow