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UPDATED: Opera Mini on the iPhone Rumor Smasher: Not Denied, Not Even Submitted?!


The New York Times gets clarification from Opera (via Daring Fireball):

“We stopped the work because of the prohibitive license,” to Mr. von Tetzchner wrote in an e-mail.

Turns out it was an internal project.


So we, along with half the interwebs, picked up a paraphrased comment by Opera's president that pretty much indicated Apple had rejected popular mobile browser Opera Mini from the App Store.

Well, John Gruber over at Daring Fireball did some digging and found out that it just ain't so:

My understanding, based on information from informed sources who do not wish to be identified because they were not authorized by their employers is that Opera has developed an iPhone version of Opera Mini, they haven’t even submitted it to Apple, let alone had it be rejected.

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  • Pfft.
  • lol noobs.
  • But really, do you expect Apple to allow a competing browser in the app store? They made it clear that no app would be allowed to compete with their apps. It's actually a good thing that Opera didn't submit their browser to the app store because it would have received the denied stamp.
    let Opera focus on the other big piece of the pie. Now, if Apple can just fix the damn crashes in the Safari browser.
  • i think i've figured out the major cause to the crashing and if you just do this and get by this.. you will NEVER crash.
    I noticed that when i'm being impatient and if i try to do something before the PAGE is fully loaded then it crashes.
    If you just sit and wait when you tell the browser to do something wait until it's done. you'll never crash.. well at least i don't.
  • Not really. I can be reading an article after the page is fully loaded and I still get random crashes. I get "good" times when I can browse easily for about 15-20 minutes, but eventually I get a crash. Then there are others when I crash on certain sites ( is one example). It may be because that site is so heavy on junk. But there are others.
  • that's interesting. Yeah i've pretty much got it down to where i can force a crash if i want to. and if i don't then i do what i do which is to wait a few seconds.
  • I actually expect Safari to crash on me when if my browsing session lasts more than a half dozen pages. Whether I wait for pages to fully load or not, Safari follows a predictably unpredictable pattern -- 1) Perform fine, 2) Something happens which causes Safari to slow down, and it gets progressively slow each page until rendering and keyboard response is ludicrously slow, 3) Crash. It has gotten to the point where I try to make Safari crash, if only because during step #2 it is so unusable that crashing and coming back is more efficient. Occasionally step 3) requires a hard reset of the phone, but most times I just get kicked out of Safari, and come back in with my recent browser history gone. Such a lack of stability might be forgivable in an open, chaotic platform, but, if you control the hardware and the software, and act as sole gatekeeper of 3rd party software, it is inexcusable. The iPhone's main advantage (to me) was its web browser, but as more handsets get WebKit, Opera, or Fennec-based browsers, that advantage will disappear. If the iPhone's integrated platform offers better stability, it can tout that as an advantage to counter the greater choice on other platforms. But only if they can actually provide that better stability. The clock is ticking...
  • What fassy said. Apple expects us to give up a lot of freedom to chose how we want to make our iPhone work... in the name of making it "just work". And in fairness, most of the iPhone's capabilities do work well. But the web browsing capability was a major selling point for the platform, and Mobile Safari just doesn't work.
  • Nothing ia more frustrating than when you're trying to type a lengthy messge online and Safari crashes.
    To combat this problem, I always copy and paste the invaluable text to my memo pad incase Safari DOES crash...oh, wait a minute..ummm...
  • I rarely have safari crash, and use it alot! I mainly browse mobile/iPhone specific sites - perhaps that's the reason.
  • @ frog: Yeah, but what's the purpose behind that? Didn't Jobs proudly claimed that the iPhone is more than capable of displaying full websites, no corny stripped down version. I believed him, and he was right, when it works. If I wanted a stripped down version of a web-page, I would have kept my blackberry. Ugh!
  • well submit it, so they can reject it, so I can get mad!
  • the bottom line here though, (coming from a person who has literally tried out all Smartphones)
    the sad part to all of this is the iPhone is more stable and works better then other Smartphones... which says a lot about other smartphones.
    I think i had to take my treo back like 3 times? =/
  • I've had to replace my iPhone 3 times in the past 8 months, two of which were in the past 2 months. :(. I think if I had problems with this phone, I'd probably just give up.