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	<title>Comments on: Apple Retail Stores: Buh-Bye WindowsCE, Hello iPod touch!</title>
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		<title>By: JadedConsumer</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-91191</link>
		<dc:creator>JadedConsumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The exit of WinCE devices from Apple Stores can&#039;t come a moment too soon. They were ugly, for one.  But it&#039;s hard to argue with Apple&#039;s success in retail.  Beating the revenue per square foot of high-margin outfits like Tiffany&#039;s?  Regularly?  Get out of town!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The kind of high-end storefront Apple has been rolling out in New York, Beijing, and the like begs the question how &lt;a href=&#039;http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2008/08/dell-wheres-competitive-advantage.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;commodity vendors like Dell&lt;/a&gt; (and by extension, Microsoft, which requires bargain-basement commodity boxes produced at thin margins by efficient OEMs in order to make Microsoft&#039;s pre-installed products seem inexpensive) hope to make money &lt;a href=&#039;http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2009/10/retail-therapy-no-cure-for-dell-msft.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;copying Apple&#039;s retail behavior&lt;/a&gt;.  High-rent retail locations don&#039;t make sense for commodity products, and taking on support overhead works against MSFT&#039;s historical margins strategy (to push support to OEMs to retain maximum profit).  Given that &lt;a href=&#039;http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2009/11/apple-benefits-from-windows-7.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSFT&#039;s new OS isn&#039;t working against Apple&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s apparent long-term trend toward higher penetration, and &lt;a href=&#039;http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2009/10/apples-appetite-clears-plates.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Apple&#039;s component purchasing power&lt;/a&gt; places it in a position from which competitors have a hard time profitably chasing Apple&#039;s various products, it seems that a &quot;me-too&quot; retail strategy will either be vastly overpriced for its delivered profit or will be a transparent effort to dress up a trailer park like a community of established brownstones.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I predict both Dell and Microsoft will find retail an inefficient way to reclaim high-margin share from Apple.  I suspect Apple will &lt;a href=&#039;http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2009/10/apple-handheld-hegemon.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;continue to hold and expand high-margin business&lt;/a&gt; despite effort to compete on price.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The exit of WinCE devices from Apple Stores can't come a moment too soon. They were ugly, for one.  But it's hard to argue with Apple's success in retail.  Beating the revenue per square foot of high-margin outfits like Tiffany's?  Regularly?  Get out of town!</p>

<p>The kind of high-end storefront Apple has been rolling out in New York, Beijing, and the like begs the question how <a href='http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2008/08/dell-wheres-competitive-advantage.html' rel="nofollow">commodity vendors like Dell</a> (and by extension, Microsoft, which requires bargain-basement commodity boxes produced at thin margins by efficient OEMs in order to make Microsoft's pre-installed products seem inexpensive) hope to make money <a href='http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2009/10/retail-therapy-no-cure-for-dell-msft.html' rel="nofollow">copying Apple's retail behavior</a>.  High-rent retail locations don't make sense for commodity products, and taking on support overhead works against MSFT's historical margins strategy (to push support to OEMs to retain maximum profit).  Given that <a href='http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2009/11/apple-benefits-from-windows-7.html' rel="nofollow">MSFT's new OS isn't working against Apple</a>'s apparent long-term trend toward higher penetration, and <a href='http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2009/10/apples-appetite-clears-plates.html' rel="nofollow">Apple's component purchasing power</a> places it in a position from which competitors have a hard time profitably chasing Apple's various products, it seems that a "me-too" retail strategy will either be vastly overpriced for its delivered profit or will be a transparent effort to dress up a trailer park like a community of established brownstones.</p>

<p>I predict both Dell and Microsoft will find retail an inefficient way to reclaim high-margin share from Apple.  I suspect Apple will <a href='http://jadedconsumer.blogspot.com/2009/10/apple-handheld-hegemon.html' rel="nofollow">continue to hold and expand high-margin business</a> despite effort to compete on price.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-90608</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was at the Apple Store in Ann Arbor, MI earlier today and they said that they&#039;d switch in three weeks. The guy that I talked to said that the hardware was custom designed and currently includes some sort of stylus for customer to sign their name. He said that they expected to ditch the stylus almost immediately when people sign with their fingers instead.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the Apple Store in Ann Arbor, MI earlier today and they said that they'd switch in three weeks. The guy that I talked to said that the hardware was custom designed and currently includes some sort of stylus for customer to sign their name. He said that they expected to ditch the stylus almost immediately when people sign with their fingers instead.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Af135</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-90002</link>
		<dc:creator>Af135</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s about time! It&#039;s crazy that Apple has been using WinMo hardware for completing sales in their stores.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's about time! It's crazy that Apple has been using WinMo hardware for completing sales in their stores.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rylan</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89991</link>
		<dc:creator>Rylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m at Valley Fair right now. I&#039;m going to head over to the Apple Store to check them out.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm at Valley Fair right now. I'm going to head over to the Apple Store to check them out.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89843</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;if this goes beyond apple stores, it would be awesome&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this goes beyond apple stores, it would be awesome</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: msatlas</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89839</link>
		<dc:creator>msatlas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I did have a nice little chuckle when the Apple guy brought out the WinCE POS deal to ring up my iPhone purchase. Especially since I was coming over from a WinMo phone.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did have a nice little chuckle when the Apple guy brought out the WinCE POS deal to ring up my iPhone purchase. Especially since I was coming over from a WinMo phone.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89835</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was stupid how Microsoft copied Apple with the store and cheering loudly when the store opened and people walked in, but it&#039;s just as stupid that Apple employees do it... is this a cult or something?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was stupid how Microsoft copied Apple with the store and cheering loudly when the store opened and people walked in, but it's just as stupid that Apple employees do it... is this a cult or something?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fassy</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89826</link>
		<dc:creator>fassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I doubt there would be any technical security issue, but there might be some additional social security issues for the store itself.  After all, those CE devices have the twin retail advantages of being impossible for a customer to confuse with Apple products and unusable/unsalable for any thief.  :) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, even with a screen reader attachment, an unattended iPod touch POS might look like a demo unit to play with for a customer, or a new music player/quick profit for somebody with sticky fingers.  Certainly not something to cause Apple panic, but the very desirability of an iPod touch means they have to think those aspects through.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More interesting is if the POS solution is Apple-created or third party, and, after the bugs and kinks are worked out of the system, if Apple/that third party would sell this as a solution for retailers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt there would be any technical security issue, but there might be some additional social security issues for the store itself.  After all, those CE devices have the twin retail advantages of being impossible for a customer to confuse with Apple products and unusable/unsalable for any thief.  <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>

<p>On the other hand, even with a screen reader attachment, an unattended iPod touch POS might look like a demo unit to play with for a customer, or a new music player/quick profit for somebody with sticky fingers.  Certainly not something to cause Apple panic, but the very desirability of an iPod touch means they have to think those aspects through.</p>

<p>More interesting is if the POS solution is Apple-created or third party, and, after the bugs and kinks are worked out of the system, if Apple/that third party would sell this as a solution for retailers.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SpiceRak2</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89820</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiceRak2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder if this presents more of a security issue?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this presents more of a security issue?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89799</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They&#039;ve been using touches for Genius appointments and inventory from what I&#039;ve seen, not for scanning and credit card processing. Now with 3.0 and the add-ons, they can go all-in...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They've been using touches for Genius appointments and inventory from what I've seen, not for scanning and credit card processing. Now with 3.0 and the add-ons, they can go all-in...</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: F1nbar</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89797</link>
		<dc:creator>F1nbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Theve always been using itouches in London but not with barcode scanners&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theve always been using itouches in London but not with barcode scanners</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89795</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In Australia, they&#039;ve been using iPod touches for quite a while. At least 3/4 months?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Australia, they've been using iPod touches for quite a while. At least 3/4 months?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Yo</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/10/29/apple-retail-stores-buhbye-windowsce-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-89790</link>
		<dc:creator>Yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1st &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1st </p>]]></content:encoded>
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