Apple vs. Samsung current U.S. product lines
Interesting comparison by Minimally Minimal of Apple vs. Samsung product strategies, including their current U.S. device lines. (Spoiler: 3 vs. 134). No doubt there’s a debate to be had about when both lack of and way too much choice become frustrating.
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Shitty Samsung
very mature of you.. either way who cares…. im a consumer and as long as these guys bring great products, im happy.
very mature of you.. either way who cares…. im a consumer and as long as these guys bring great products, im happy.
But many of these devices are in different categories (smartphone, feature phone, OS, etc). And not to mention most are identical phones for different carriers.
But I get the point here about the lack of choice and the where to the point where it’s too much you aren’t sure what to do.
I have a Galaxy S II along with my iPhone 4 and it’s a really good phone.
I agree — the iPhone 4 is a really good phone
Compare smartphones to samrtphone and there is only one gs2 just different variants depending on carriers…is it me or does tipb love to talk about Samsung Lol
It’s just you. Seriously.
We talk about all competing devices and companies because they give another perspective about Apple and show how different approaches can do better or worse in different circumstances — the same reason Android Central or CrackBerry will mention Apple.
What you choose to pay attention to or focus on is all you, though
Good try but not just him. You mention competitors more than other Mobile Nations sites. Just do a simple comparison of the last 20-30 posts.
Good job deflecting it back to your reader though.
You have such a chip on your shoulder John
Chip of constant disappointment? Maybe.
Good work deflecting again. Just try what I said. Compare the sites.
John, apologies, I enjoy discussing with you and your point of view, but I missed anything relevant to the actual topic in that reply?
You told him “It’s just you. Seriously.” and I’m saying it is not. You also give AC and CB as other sites who mention Apple. I’m simply saying compare the last 20-30 posts and see how often they post about Apple and how much TiPB posts about Android [OS and ODMs].
Hope that clears it up.
Its pretty much accepted that Rene has a obsession with Android/Google. I think that if Windows Phone was in the same position as Android then his focus would be there. I don’t knock him for it anymore, he lives and breathes iOS so Android/Google is a threat to what he loves so he spends a lot of time fighting Apple’s battles. He manages to retain a fair amount of objectivity so it doesn’t annoy me as much as say a Gruber type.
Yeah, I haven’t paid much attention to TiPB lately [The Verge is my front-runner at the moment] but Rene just doesn’t post the same way he speaks. He’s not Gruber’esque but his writing is not too far behind him.
Have a conversation w/ him or listen to a podcast and his bias is much lower than you get from his writing here.
Rene also has a nexus one. So to say he lives and breathes ios may be a tad overboard no?
How old are you?
Well most of them will not mention competitors for various reasons. Android central has way to many phones to talk about and review. Web os is trying to find anything at all about web os to write about. Crackberry is to busy trying to keep people interested in blackberry phones and the playbook. And wpcentral is trying to get people interested in windows phone. There is no time to talk about competitors. Just saying.
Firstly, AC is the only one busy enough to go for this argument but even when they aren’t busy they still don’t write posts like these. WP, Crackberry, and PreCentral are all as busy as TiPB. They have moderate information cycles.
PreCentral is dead quiet in comparison yet they don’t “attack” competitors.
Firstly, AC is the only one busy enough to go for this argument but even when they aren’t busy they still don’t write posts like these. WP, Crackberry, and PreCentral are all as busy as TiPB. They have moderate information cycles.
PreCentral is dead quiet in comparison yet they don’t “attack” competitors.
well guess its not just me then is it? you forget to answer my real questions.Are all them phones still in production and are they all smartphones.also think all the gs2 phones should be classed as one device because they are all gs2 but slighty changed depending on its carriers..just as the ip4 verizon and at&t model are classed as the same device although they have slight change in design(the black bands). just think this isnt a ”apples to apples” comparison.
I just went to the Samsung website (source link) and the list 41 phones when you select Android OS. And if you want to count the 2 different colors, the 3 different memory capacity, the 3 carriers, and the 3 different models (4S,4,3GS); the math is 41 vs 17. And in terms of production there are only 3 different casings or outer shells, vs for Samsung, the Galaxy S II (that you lump together) have a different casing for each carrier. I think Rene’s point is that from a business point of view, the more choices actually hurts Samsung instead of helping them. For me, as a costumer, I prefer less choices and more support to your products.
yes the gs2 has different cases but you dont get all the variants of the gs2 on 1 carrier..ie if your a sprint customer and want the s2 you get epic 4g touch and if you want the t-mo version you get the t-mo version…my point in being samsung only have had 1 high end phone this year which is the gs2 but they just look different and have slight modifications depending on regions and carriers but they not really new phones. also are all those phones still in production?
from recent q3 and q4 reports i would say that samsung is doing well from their model of making phones in many price ranges..they released the gs2 in may which is their only flagship device of 2011 but they just have different variants depending on regions and carriers so i think when it comes to samsung they are actually very good on the high end range as they have 1 model where as other android OEMS have a few high end models.
@taz89 Don’t forget they are the #1 smartphone manufacturer worldwide too. He can down them all he wants…they’re top dawg.
[insert repetitive Apple wins profit share argument here]
If they keep their website updated, they are all in production. Actually, if you just want a Galaxy S II phone (the top of the line), you have less choice than with the 4S. You can only get the one they offer at your carrier, with the 4S you can choose which color and which memory size. Samsung “offer” you less choice for their top of the line. Also for me it doesn’t make too much business sense to have a different phone for each carrier when you can make one phone for the 3 carrier. I’m not sure, but I think that even if they call them the same, they need different boxes, different marketing materials, and different test, FCC fillings, and different production outcomes for each phone. Who benefits from Samsung business model?
@John C. Bland II I just want to clear things up. Samsung is not the number one smartphone manufacturer, they are the number one phone manufacturer. So that includes smartphones (android, wp7 and bada) and regular phones. However I will repeat not the number one smartphone vendor.
Yes, you’re correct. I’ll be more specific next time. To further dial it in, it was based on Q3 [where the 4s was not out yet].
I’ll try not to be generic in my response next time so a follow-up “clarity” comment isn’t necessary.
How about show the Samsung flagship phones or just their Android phones
Samsung’s low end phones don’t have anything to do with this.
Why not? It takes focus and resources from the company to produce any product. The more products, the more choice, but the less attention that can be paid to any one of the products.
No one who wants a big screen or keyboard will consider Apple because of lack of choice, but anyone wanting to consider Samsung has an incredible array of things to consider, including whether or not Samsung will invest in any one particular phone going forward and for how long.
A flip phone user does think about updates or apps, they think about saving money on their phone bill. Apple may not care, but apple doesnt have that customer.
Who keeps a phone for more than 2 years? when you buy a new phone in 2 years there is one 3 times better than it. So there is no point in supporting it. I would rather look at all the Samsung devices and go with one that fits me the best, (keyboard, large screen, etc.), rather than going with an apple device that everyone has and keeping it for 5 years and getting same old apple iOS updates. My opinion. (i have an iphone)
That’s what he’s saying.
“No one who wants a big screen or keyboard will consider Apple because of lack of choice, but anyone wanting to consider Samsung has an incredible array of things to consider…”
You’re in the latter.
3.5 inch crystal clear screen or a 5 inch washed out screen? Guess what hero.
See…they aren’t copying Apple!
Not in business model, and they’re still selling a ton of units, which is nice to see. There will always be people who want something different and we need strong competition, or everyone loses.
Not at all looking at this graphic.
See…you see clearly but rarely in the post. Put some of that clarity up front and that chip you say I have will disappear.
lol
So let me see if I understand you, cause you’re not making much sense, you’re saying TiPB has too many post about the competition? And somehow that’s a bad thing?
Ok I did what you said, looked at the last 3 pages of post on TiPB, other then this post, and the perhaps post concerning Mobile Nations, I see no other post comparing the iPhone to the competition, so yeah it’s just you and that other guy. Seriously.
Ok I did what you said, looked at the last 3 pages of post on TiPB, other then this post, and the perhaps post concerning Mobile Nations, I see no other post comparing the iPhone to the competition, so yeah it’s just you and that other guy. Seriously.
See how often the other sites post negatively about Apple. That’s my point. It is an attempt to dissuade readers vs reporting news, Imo.
Well John, to be fair they just don’t have as many options to discuss here as they do on those other sites! :p
They also don’t have the same drama of watching a company try to jump off a cliff and then save itself like the only other blog in the group with a singular product line…
I agree with Orion. there aren’t really any news from apple other then the random rumors,new app, etc. where as on AC, there have a new phone everyday to write on. rather than keeping this site MIA, they might as well write these type of vs post. but yes, tipb does have alot of these negative post compared to AC. not sure about the other sites. I only follow this and AC.
LMBO Orion. You’re right though. The news is far less active in iOS camp but that’s no excuse to lower the bar here and always take shots.
A new product comes out…review it and compare. That’s cool. Write negative posts about competition for the sake of it…makes the site less desirable.
So let me get this straight…
They’ll show the same device, albeit different carriers, along with outdated phones for Samsung. But they don’t do the same for Apple. Oh yeah, there’s no bias in that whatsoever.
Lets show the iPhone 4/4S with each carrier, each and each size. A choice is a choice mind you. Since we’re showing the Galaxy S/S2 multiple times even though it’s the same phone.
I have nothing against Apple. I love my MacBook and the iPhone is a great phone, just not my cup of tea.
But it’s stupid stuff like this that makes me hate the folks that use it. Using double standards to pump up their sense of “awesomeness”.
One minute numbers mean nothing. Next minute it does. Then the next minute, when it hurts (insert your favorite company) it doesnt.
This picture is a bunch of biased bull.
That is all.
Haven’t had your coffee yet? Sound kinda high-strung today
I haven’t.
walks to Starbucks
what do you expect from a Apple blog ? Post stuff that glorify Samsung ?
I expect them to post stuff that discusses Apple news [good and bad] and not rely on making the competition look bad to better Apple’s position.
Just saying.
Like Android Central does when their bad mouthing Apple? Get out of here dude. You are the definition of a troll. I’m glad you have a pic on here so we can know what one looks like. You do realize you don’t have to check this site EVERY day don’t you? If your so happy with your not iPhone you wouldn’t be bothered by what goes on here. I don’t check Android sites because i consider it junk. Try growing up and doing the same.
The OP of this chart isn’t an Apple Blog
So Sammy should make a product a year?
I think it’s not frustrating to choose. Samsung create products for consumer demands, Apple trying to create their own consumer profile that demands “magical” Apple products… Thats it and with the media power, they can accomplish it.
And that’s why Android is supposedly popular. Useless and plentiful. Like spam.
You realize there are only a few android phones up there right?
How dare you introduce facts into a troll thread!
How dare you introduce facts into a troll thread!
I guess 41 phones are few?
41 is a TON but how many are Android?
All of them, just look it up in the Samsung website
@labgpr I notice [on their site; http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/all-products numerous phones listed multiple times. The Gem, Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, and Transform would prob bring that total to less than 30 [didn't count but two of those are listed 4 times].
Then consider the 15 that are on non-major carriers [cricket, etc; some cross-over to major carriers (ie - Nexus S)].
Look at that graphic above and you’ll see Windows Phones as well.
Point is…they all aren’t Android and it isn’t as simple as “they have 41 Android phones.” Some are low-end phones.
But…I could care less, to be honest. As long as I get a Galaxy Nexus, they can have 100 phones.
Actually if you look at the model number instead of the name, the list come down to 37 phones. The point of the graphic is about business models, and if you want to concentrate on Android side of business that’s fine. Do you really think that Samsung has any incentive to support a phone out of 37 or spend a lot time perfecting your experience when they have so many other phones to also take care. For me, is really hard to think that these many choices is better for you or Samsung.
Interesting article! I have been using Apple phones for some time now, but have been through smartphones since my 1st Palm Treo! I think what I find the most interesting about this is the emerging similarity of Android with Microsoft. Having just read the Jobs biography I am struck by the similarities. Is Android going to become the Microsoft of the smartphone? They have an ever improving OS (much better than initial versions much like Windows 7 is MUCH better than Windows 2000) and have mostly let others do the hardware–HTC, Samsung, etc. Those devices like the OS are also ever improving in quality (Galaxy IIs, new Droid Razr). I certainly hope we don’t see Apple smartphones become a much smaller niche as once their PCs did–though that area is gradually gaining ground (I still have a PC I am writing this on!)
Great website and always nice links! What do you all think? Is this comparison for real? Do we even care? (if Apple continues to built such great devices, I will continue to buy them regardless of marketshare) thanks!
I have long felt this way too.
I have long felt this way too.
With a risk to completely waste the point, I would say that this looks more like quantity vs. quality to me rather than “lack of and way too much”. And one more thing: comparing Samsung with Apple is not a a good way to treat a friend:) It’s more like software(apple) vs. hardware(samsung), which is pointless due to both belong to a completely different categories. On the other hand – competing iOS and Android is what’s important to me, and I believe to the others as well. And what’s Samsung got to do with it anyway?!
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“its about time”…………no dummy ! its bout choices
Samsung doesn’t need to invest in one because apple is doing it for them all they are good for is copying
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The more, the merrier : “there is an Android for that”…
I would rather have a simple choice and not have to stand and stare at a smorgasbord of manufacturer devices in a Verizon Store.
I regretted staying with Verizon and making do with the Blackberry Storm when really should have gotten the Apple iPhone. I was already frustrated by the array of potential blackberry devices and I ended up buying a device that was poorly supported, that had problems with apps that I used on my previous blackberry, that never quite got the operating system bugs fixed before Blackberry said they would not be pushing any new updates. Then of course they were supporting a forest of devices and it has to affect product development and support when the engineers are spread so thin.
The other thing is that if a company carries a huge range of devices you can’t go into a store and say, I want a Samsung phone, you would be viewing multiple devices and have to have a good idea of which one you really want. You can go into a carrier and ask for an Apple phone and they present you with a limited choice of devices, then you pick your memory size. The same with Tablets, Samsung carries more than one tablet, 7 inch 10 inch etc. Samsung, Blackberry and most makers have a lot of fragmentation just in their own product lines, and I mean that in the best possible way, without the confusion caused by multiple versions of an operating system such as Android where they all have tweaks and changes.
So I do agree with the idea of the post though it could have been presented a little better and allow more clarity. One paragraph and then a link off the site adds to confusion and a little more background to the information found on those sites would have gone a long way.
How many of us actually click on the links and then read the whole kit and kaboodle of the posting on the other site?
Just a shame that the comments that are posted make it look and sound like a locker room brawl over who has the bigger one!
Free OS + 50 cents in plastic + 2.5 hour battery + i assume glass front + ridiculous name = the latest Samsung Android device.
Ok, i don’t understand why all you babies are crying about. The whole point of this article is to show how Samsung and Apple use their resources to createe their product lineups and to showcase the different beliefs that both companies have. Samsung clearly believes in options and Apple believes in an all-in-one package. Everyone has their own tastes so dont bring this whole “Android > Apple >Andoid” BS to this post. If anyone actually bothered to read this article with an open mind then none of you fools would be badmouthing each other.
The folks of Mobile Nations have EVERY RIGHT TO POST WHATEVER THEY WANT AND IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM THEN FIND ANOTHER BLOG! I read all the MobileNations blogs (I use to have a Blackberry currently have the 4S) and i even read WebOS and Android blogs to stay up to date.
@David M.D.
“They’ll show the same device, albeit different carriers, along with outdated phones for Samsung. But they don’t do the same for Apple. Oh yeah, there’s no bias in that whatsoever.”
Did you even look at the picture? They have the iphones dating back to the 3GS and the iPhone 4 has both GSM and CDMA models listed. They only showed these 4 devices because thats all the phones that Apple are currently selling. This whole post is to show the current product lineups for both companies, thats all.