In the latest email from Steve Jobs we are seeing a kinder and gentler individual who actually had something positive to say regarding Adobe. MacStories reader Josh Cheney shot off the following in a email:
“Do you hate Adobe and their products (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc) or do you just hate their view on Flash?”
Jobs then responded with some more than usual kind words:
“I respect and admire Adobe. We just chose to not have Flash on our devices.”
See, Steve does have a heart but we all know deep down he wants to bury Adobe with every chance he gets.
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Kinder, gentler Steve Jobs chimes in about Adobe in latest email
The man works with a different definition of the word "our".
Skuze me, Steve, WHO's device?
He means Apple's devices, you know, the ones they build and sell? If you buy one, it's yours, of course and you can do anything you want to it and with it (though if you rearrange the hardware or modify the software, Apple won't support it after.). If that's not working for you, you can buy "someone else's" device.
@Lady Kaede well put. Also why would you want Flash after seeing how it worked on Froyo? It bogged down the web experience and made the useability turn to crap. Flash is overrated IMO.
@Brian you clearly didn't watch the right demo. You sure you didn't see Flash Lite? 'cause that bogs it down. But from what I've seen, it bogs nothing down as full flash....Go check out Android Central for more details :)
Come on, Steve, let this attitude change, I want Flash on mah iPhone (I'd say it is much more important on the iPad, though)
well, at least he said the truth this times, that Apple has choosed not to use flash, instead of "Adobe is Lazy", "Flash is buggy" and he didn't link to "Thoughts on Flash".
And Flash on Android works fine with the latest beta, not the best Performance when Scrolling within a Website, but they keep doing.... and the best is, YOU have the option to "activate it", "disable it" or the best option -> to activate each Flash-File "On-Demand".
If HTML5 gets established and many people put a lot of HTML5-Banner Animations on their site, this will also hit performance badly and you can't turn "HTML5" off in that case, unlike Flash.
Flash will most likely be on the iPhone in the future, It just depends on how many websites convert and does HTML 5 become the future. If they don't convert and the flash for phones improve Apple will most likely cave in from the pressure after a while, but they can be stubborn and hold out for a long periods. I don't really care if flash is on the iPhone myself, I just don't really use flash that much but I know others want it. I just need the option to turn it on and off.
With tech the future can change tomorrow, who knows maybe Google will predict what will be used.
gah. I don't have Flash on my iPhone or iPad, and y'know what? I am not missing it at all. It's pretty rare that I run into something that won't load because it requires Flash. And it's been three years since the iPhone was released and all Adobe has shown so far is a buggy, slow demo on Android. The mobile web doesn't need to sit around and wait for Adobe to catch up..sorry.
I am so glad there is no flash on the devices and although I see both sides of the arguement. In the past two weeks I've had flash fail on my Mac side, on my Windows side and this is on a desktop. I think it would be cool to allow it to be an install that is in the Appstore so people who want it can install and uninstall it but they don't want to waste their time doing that so I'm with the better of two evils.
This is classic Apple - in a good way. HTML5 is the future, but without some force bigger than ordinary web developers, it would never get off the ground and replace Flash - people are too lazy to adopt a new technology unless there is a good reason. Apple might be making people angry, but they are providing the reason that Flash will be displaced by HTML5. And for that, we should be thanking them.
Apparently Jobs' anti-depressants kicked in.
Steve, the past few weeks the jerk routine made me think twice about you and your company. What ever changes you made to your communication skills or strategy seem to be working. Keep up the good work and maybe I'll reconsider how I feel about you and Apple.
If the email is true: I like how he said "we" when he meant "I."
I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what Steve Jobs thinks. Adobe make some great products that benefit Apple hugely. He does have a bit of a crusade going on against Flash but that doesn't mean he extends that opinion to the rest of Adobe's products, or to Adobe itself.
Adobe CS5 Master Collection f**kin' ROCKS!
Flash is crap and we are not using it.
Screw Steve, it's MY iphone I am the the customer stop F-ing telling me what I want!
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