But, wait until September? I don't know.

http:///www.ipodrefresh.com

dude, who shit in your cheerios? Calm down man.

Nobody should care what I think. Instead, they should look at sales trends for standalone PDAs and standalone music players. If they do, they will discover that the standalone PDA market is (compared to its former self) quite dead, while the standalone music player market is dying.

"There are still plenty of adopters out there, with plenty of reasons (that they know of and even more they haven’t even thought of yet) and billions of dollars ready to be spent."

Compared to the current smartphone market, and compared to the former standalone PDA market, you are describing niche audiences.

"The last thing anyone needs is someone like you running around proclaiming the death of a platform still in its infancy."

Neither the PDA nor the music player markets are in their infancy. Was there any other proclamation I made?

"Just another troll from the Zune world, er, ecosystem that has nothing better to do. Look at iPod sales of all types – go ahead, we’ll wait. "

I own neither a Zune nor any other standalone music player. I used to use Palm PDAs for many years, until I got a Treo Smartphone. Now I have an iPhone.

And I would welcome you to look at the sales trends of the iPod. Its market is dying. And it was the only product that ever gave Apple a market share bigger than single-digits. Soon, few people will buy standalone players, instead choosing integrated products like the iPhone and the Droid.

If you have better information, let me know.

"And BTW, “genius” there is no “itouch” Doosh."

Thanks for noticing. However, in case you failed to notice, there is no iSteve either.

thanks for putting that hater in check bcuz what he was sayn didn't make no sense he's probably mad bcuz he don't have one!!

The iPod Touch platform is ideal for education. In many schools and colleges, it has been adopted to handle everything from schedules and assignments to testing and eBooks. Kids don't need phones, so the platform fits in nicely. Some parents are choosing to spend $200 to run a $2 app on it. Why? Because that $2 app will improve their kids' math scores (something we desperately need) and make all those late-night tutoring sessions a thing of the past. I've heard of people spending $1000 to run $2000 dollar software, but buying hardware that costs (at least) 100x the price of the software? Who'd walk away from that, let alone declare it, "dead," or not interesting? (hint: an IDIOT!)

There are many other industries, too, that can make use of the platform and don't need a phone with it. Even an iPod Touch with a built-in microphone would be a tremendous hit: in a corporate environment, it could tie in directly with VoIP servers - great for getting rid of handsets and folks who spend most of their day at their desks or wandering around their buildings. For now, the enhanced headphones will have to do.

A touch tablet would be even better and replace many paper-driven functions outright.

Maybe YOU'RE not excited by the iPod Touch, but who gives a rat-fluck what YOU and your 20 micron mind think? There are still plenty of adopters out there, with plenty of reasons (that they know of and even more they haven't even thought of yet) and billions of dollars ready to be spent.

The last thing anyone needs is someone like you running around proclaiming the death of a platform still in its infancy.

--- as for Dionte--- That's going to be the trick, isn't it? A swivel would be better, but given the size of the platform, it would be something likely to break.

But, let's jump ahead to 2010 for a second. Will Apple have access to a faster processor or multiple cores in 2010? Probably (for sure, the faster processor). If that makes it into the 4G, it might make sense to put in two sensors - forward and rear. That would make for some interesting reality augmentation, wouldn't it?

The alternative (putting a smaller LCD on the back, so you could see what you're taking a picture of) would be too costly, as for as power and weight go (to Apple designers and customers, money was never an object!)

And what about iSteve's lame comment that a camera was left out because the iTouch is "not a phone"? Was that a dumb lie?

The addition of a camera to a music payer is not terribly exciting in today's tech landscape. Apple will realize few incremental sales due to this addition.