So iPad 2 won't have a Retina Display, sticking with 1024x768?

So iPad 2 won't have a Retina Display, sticking with 1024x768?

DaringFireball's John Gruber checked with his sources following the recent iPad 2 2048 × 1536 Retina Display rumors and they say it is too good to be true -- iPad 2 will sport the same 1024x768 resolution as the current iPad.

Its display may be improved in other ways — brighter, better power consumption, thinner, perhaps. Maybe it uses the new manufacturing technique Apple introduced with the iPhone 4 display, which brings the LCD closer to the surface of the touchscreen glass — making it look more like pixels on glass rather than pixels under glass. But my sources are pretty sure that it’s not 2048 × 1536 or any other “super high resolution”.

He pegs iPad 2 as an iPhone 3GS-style update -- better internals like CPU, GPU, and RAM (aka Apple A5?) but the same screen resolution.

It's a much more realistic, if much less fun prediction given current technology. Gruber's "little birdie" sources have also proven accurate in the past. We'll know for sure when Apple does their unveiling.

[Daring Fireball]

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So iPad 2 won't have a Retina Display, sticking with 1024x768?


I never expected that super-high res. But something better than 1024 x 768 - PLEASE! That resolution is too low to not look like the year 2000, in my opinion.

I had an Ipad but sold it after two weeks. Awesome device but when you have an Iphone 4 the resolution on the Ipad looks terrible. Will not be buying another one until it goes retina!

iPad resolution is fine the way it is could be better but iPad 2 will have some other way of making it up to make the screen look better

Keeping the screen at 1024x768 allows Apple to keep margins, avoid supply issues, keep devs happy, and slow fragmentation.
Exactly four people will not buy the new iPad because of this.

Bunk! iPad 2 will have 2048x1536 resolution.
Too many other tablets will have better than 132 dpi resolution that Apple will have to at least match. And what about those 4x bookmarks found in iOS 4.3?
No, John is simply wrong this time.

Apple expects to sell approx 17m iPads this year. it's unreasonable to expect a retina display at that size with that many units. I never expected it anyhow. A faster CPU, faster GPU and cameras are all you should expect. so my sources say :-P

Oh no... maybe I can keep my first gen iPad for a bit longer?
I was actually very surprised when Engadget reported the rumor. It seemed to be true from their mouth because they don't usually do Apple rumors.

Those images could simply be there for internal development and testing purposes. There's no doubt Apple will at some stage go Retina on the iPad so it stands to reason that those images would be there, doesn't however mean that the higher resolution would be available in the next iteration of the device. :-(

Definitely cold water. Gruber is the most reliable rumor-ologist of the bloggers. The dude has sources within Apple. Apple sources. The only better source of pre-announce info is the WSJ or the NYT, which are essentially Apple leaked. So 1024x768 it is.
Everyone else appears to have component manufacturer or case maker sources, which aren't that reliable as Apple has got those guys compartmentalized.
So, maybe 2048x1536 will be in iPad 3 in 2012.

For months everyone has been predicting a higher resolution screen for iPad 2, and there is going to be a lot of disappointment if Apple does not deliver. Maybe this leak is strategic, meant to temper expectations, but I just can't see them sticking with the same resolution after the iPhone 4's Retina Display has been so well recieved. I think the high-res horse has left the barn.

Everyone has been predicting it, sure, but based on what? Speculation? Figuring they'll do it because the iPhone 4 had it?
None of those are legit reasons to assume Apple will do anything. If people were honestly expecting everything the rumor mill was churning up, then they deserve to be disappointed.

Absolutely, people deserve to be disappointed if they base their expectations only on the rumor-mill. In this case however, I think expectations are largely based on the fact that the iPhone 4 and latest iPod Touch are sporting Retina Displays. iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad are linked in almost every way and it would be very un-Apple to omit a major feature on one of these devices after having raised the bar themselves.

I've been saying this all along. It's a nice wish, and it's easy to think that Apple is just going to double everything every time, but this one was just too expensive to pull off at the price point they're going to want to be at. iPad 3 will certainly have it though.

Knowing Apple, it could be something that isn't an industry standard, could be 1156x869? Or 1280x940?

Number 6 on the above list of Zwei...
Retina would be my number one motivation to start using the iPad.
'Bout those High res images for iPad... What aspect ratio do the full screen images have?
It could be possible they leaked, and that those are gone in the release version.
I truly believe that that retina idea for iPad would be a tough cookie for the resources, and that development might take a looong time. Hence the high res images for internal development: a screen like that might exist, but the other resources might take a longer while.
I have a bell ringing in my head about screen issues on early iPhones... Producing that size of screens at high rate might have bad consequences too.
The iPad is a new product, the issues of first edition Macs always have to be solved before revolutionary steps can be taken. It's not only a technical product, it's a marketing idea...