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	<title>Comments on: iPhone 1.1.2 / UK O2 Details</title>
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		<title>By: Overthrow</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/05/iphone-112-uk-o2-details/comment-page-1/#comment-5012</link>
		<dc:creator>Overthrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the launch is anything like it was in the U.S., they&#039;ll have plenty to go around.  I read about a lot of folks having success in going to the Apple stores a day later, on Saturday.  And a lot of folks just showed up late and didn&#039;t have to wait as long as us line-waiters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My advice is to not wait in line, unless you&#039;re billing for it ;P&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the launch is anything like it was in the U.S., they'll have plenty to go around.  I read about a lot of folks having success in going to the Apple stores a day later, on Saturday.  And a lot of folks just showed up late and didn't have to wait as long as us line-waiters.</p>

<p>My advice is to not wait in line, unless you're billing for it ;P</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: marcol</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thinking is already done :) I have a PAC from T-Mobile, the credit card is primed for action and barring major misfortune I&#039;ll be at an O2 or CPW shop at 6.02 (the time&#039;s a bad joke on somebody&#039;s part). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s truly remarkable the mind share the iPhone has achieved in the UK - people who I&#039;d have thought have little or no interest in tech have not only heard of it but know a fair bit about it. I just hope the queues aren&#039;t too long and there&#039;s plenty to go round!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking is already done <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I have a PAC from T-Mobile, the credit card is primed for action and barring major misfortune I'll be at an O2 or CPW shop at 6.02 (the time's a bad joke on somebody's part). </p>

<p>It's truly remarkable the mind share the iPhone has achieved in the UK - people who I'd have thought have little or no interest in tech have not only heard of it but know a fair bit about it. I just hope the queues aren't too long and there's plenty to go round!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Overthrow</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/05/iphone-112-uk-o2-details/comment-page-1/#comment-5010</link>
		<dc:creator>Overthrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that it&#039;s excellent news -- I won&#039;t be fully happy until my wireless data is as unencumbered as my home broadband data, and they&#039;ll almost certainly have a quota internally, but it&#039;s a fine step in the right direction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are you thinking you&#039;ll be picking one up on Friday?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it's excellent news -- I won't be fully happy until my wireless data is as unencumbered as my home broadband data, and they'll almost certainly have a quota internally, but it's a fine step in the right direction.</p>

<p>Are you thinking you'll be picking one up on Friday?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: marcol</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2007/11/05/iphone-112-uk-o2-details/comment-page-1/#comment-5009</link>
		<dc:creator>marcol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>There's always some hubbub about the limited "unlimited" plans that carriers are so fond of implementing. O2's "unlimited" data program topped out at 200MB, and sometimes half that. If an ordinary person, aka "punter," was to download more data than that in a month on their UK iPhone, O2 would punt the punter -- they'd cancel his or her service. That language has been removed, and they now promise to send a stern letter warning of cancellation, allowing the punter to change habits and preserving the contract.

In a separate Telegraph article, aforementioned O2 CEO Matthew Key finds the key irony in a limited "unlimited" plan:

"Customers find 'unlimited with limits' confusing, plus most people don't speak in megabits or understand what they equate to."</td></tr></table>

<p>It seems to me the relevant bit of that article is the next bit (emphasised below):</p>

<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>"Customers find 'unlimited with limits' confusing, plus most people don't speak in megabits or understand what they equate to," said O2 UK chief executive Matthew Key.

<strong>''So we've taken the decision to remove the fair usage cap so that 'unlimited' really does mean 'unlimited' – this is a market first."</strong></td></tr></table>

<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/03/cniphone103.xml" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/03/cniphone103.xml</a></p>

<p>It goes on to say:</p>

<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>Data accessed must be for personal, not commercial, use and the phone must not be used as a modem.</td></tr></table>

<p>and this is born out by the O2 web site:</p>

<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>Your O2 tariff for iPhone allows you unlimited use of O2 UK’s Edge / GPRS networks and The Cloud’s UK Wireless LAN network, for personal internet use, email and Visual Voicemail (VVM) on your iPhone only. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes.

You may not use your SIM Card in any other device, or use your SIM Card or iPhone to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable P2P or file sharing or use them in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers.

If O2 reasonably suspect you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.</td></tr></table>

<p><a href="http://www.02.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/iphone/iPhone-FAQs.html" target="_blank">http://www.02.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/iphone/iPhone-FAQs.html</a></p>

<p>So it's 'unlimited' in the sense that you can use as many MB as you like as long as it's not streaming or P2P or (this is the slightly tricky one) adversely affecting O2 service or other customers. </p>

<p>AFAIK, the iPhone will be the only phone in the UK for which there's no stated MB cap (the 200 MB limit still seems to apply to other O2 phones and all other networks have caps). This talk of 'adverse effects' does give me a little pause for thought, and I wonder if in practice they'll be looking at accounts where downloads exceed a certain threshold, but basically I think this is a damn fine thing. Given Matthew Key's very public commitment it would be extraordinarily surprising if anything but the most extreme usage were to fall foul of the 'adverse effect' caveat.</p>

<p>Roll on Friday <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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