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	<title>Comments on: WebKit Tells Flash to Kiss Their Apps: CSS Animation and 3D Already in iPhone Safari Browser</title>
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		<title>By: Bernhard</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-91427</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I made a small 3D CSS iPhone Tutorial:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.khtml.org/3dtut/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe you like it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a small 3D CSS iPhone Tutorial:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.khtml.org/3dtut/" rel="nofollow">http://www.khtml.org/3dtut/</a></p>

<p>Maybe you like it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kub</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-36493</link>
		<dc:creator>kub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hi,
i made something similar. 3d music box from anime elfen lied.
check it out :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://users.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s6052/jap/elfenLied.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,
i made something similar. 3d music box from anime elfen lied.
check it out <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p><a href="http://users.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s6052/jap/elfenLied.html" rel="nofollow">http://users.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s6052/jap/elfenLied.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BarryWhite</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-32978</link>
		<dc:creator>BarryWhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is one reason why Apple won&#039;t support Flash. MONEY!
I don&#039;t blame them either, Apple are supporting developers who support customers who support Apple who support developers... and so on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Microsoft are so bloody rich because they support customers, not developers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Flash was to be enabled on the iPhone there would be no need to buy a Mac to develop iPhone applications. There would be no need to develop apps in XCode. Apple would lose millions of dollars if they allow Flash to be the interactive medium of choice on the iPhone as apposed to XCode.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You will not see Flash on the iPhone. EVER!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one reason why Apple won&#8217;t support Flash. MONEY!
I don&#8217;t blame them either, Apple are supporting developers who support customers who support Apple who support developers&#8230; and so on.</p>

<p>Microsoft are so bloody rich because they support customers, not developers.</p>

<p>If Flash was to be enabled on the iPhone there would be no need to buy a Mac to develop iPhone applications. There would be no need to develop apps in XCode. Apple would lose millions of dollars if they allow Flash to be the interactive medium of choice on the iPhone as apposed to XCode.</p>

<p>You will not see Flash on the iPhone. EVER!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David McClelland</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30871</link>
		<dc:creator>David McClelland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looks like a way to get a superficial Flash-like visual. Can it do something real with a backend or multiple users? Games? That said I will be looking into CSS3 to learn more now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a way to get a superficial Flash-like visual. Can it do something real with a backend or multiple users? Games? That said I will be looking into CSS3 to learn more now.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Vazzyb</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30788</link>
		<dc:creator>Vazzyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also like to add that people AGAINST flash on iPhone are these typical Apple suppoters who have relatively constrained and passive computer usage, dictated by Steve Jobs&#039; inflexible ideas. Dont get me wrong, I adore my iPhone but simply cant see the logical in not giving us a sometimes vital and wholly optional feature!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also like to add that people AGAINST flash on iPhone are these typical Apple suppoters who have relatively constrained and passive computer usage, dictated by Steve Jobs&#8217; inflexible ideas. Dont get me wrong, I adore my iPhone but simply cant see the logical in not giving us a sometimes vital and wholly optional feature!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Vazzyb</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30787</link>
		<dc:creator>Vazzyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Im sorry but do Apple really expect the entire internet to start using CSS3 just because its all the iPhone supports...absolutely implausible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just give us flash! Doesn&#039;t matter if its slow...having the option to access media slowly is still much better than making so much of the internet inaccessible!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry but do Apple really expect the entire internet to start using CSS3 just because its all the iPhone supports&#8230;absolutely implausible.</p>

<p>Just give us flash! Doesn&#8217;t matter if its slow&#8230;having the option to access media slowly is still much better than making so much of the internet inaccessible!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bobdaye</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30746</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobdaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I Don&#039;t know why those of us who want &quot;flash&quot; are whiners.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My two favorite activities, my business and my favorite hobby,golf, both use &quot;flash&quot;. If I wish to view an email announcement from my supplier while on the road, I have to use a computer to read or view the details. Most of my favorite golf sites for tips, lessons etc. Also use &quot;flash&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Am I a Whiner because I prefer to travel with my Iphone rather than my laptop?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Don&#8217;t know why those of us who want &#8220;flash&#8221; are whiners.</p>

<p>My two favorite activities, my business and my favorite hobby,golf, both use &#8220;flash&#8221;. If I wish to view an email announcement from my supplier while on the road, I have to use a computer to read or view the details. Most of my favorite golf sites for tips, lessons etc. Also use &#8220;flash&#8221; </p>

<p>Am I a Whiner because I prefer to travel with my Iphone rather than my laptop?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AndyEd</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30688</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyEd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My iPhone web app uses these to make text more readable from afar... amazing frame rates, I look forward to seeing what other folks cook up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a small open source script derived from iblipper at http://surfmind.com/lab/typhographic/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My iPhone web app uses these to make text more readable from afar&#8230; amazing frame rates, I look forward to seeing what other folks cook up.</p>

<p>There&#8217;s a small open source script derived from iblipper at <a href="http://surfmind.com/lab/typhographic/" rel="nofollow">http://surfmind.com/lab/typhographic/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alyx</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30669</link>
		<dc:creator>Alyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;say no to flash (or rather the way it&#039;s (ab)used))&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;it&#039;s been quite a nice stuff to watch ten years ago, with all those animated nifty-looking sites popping up, but now? endless (and needless) flash adds, sites that take ages to load, unskippable intros and menu loading, unnecessary gadgetry and &quot;cool&quot; stuff (that is cool only in minds of the designers), and so on. really, flash (not by itself, but by it&#039;s misuse) makes web browsing a fracking chore.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>say no to flash (or rather the way it&#8217;s (ab)used))</p>

<p>it&#8217;s been quite a nice stuff to watch ten years ago, with all those animated nifty-looking sites popping up, but now? endless (and needless) flash adds, sites that take ages to load, unskippable intros and menu loading, unnecessary gadgetry and &#8220;cool&#8221; stuff (that is cool only in minds of the designers), and so on. really, flash (not by itself, but by it&#8217;s misuse) makes web browsing a fracking chore.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30652</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another demo of CSS Animation + CSS 3D Transforms capabilities to emulate CoverFlow on iPhone Safari can be found here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.satine.org/archives/2008/11/06/coverflow-for-safari-on-iphone/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another demo of CSS Animation + CSS 3D Transforms capabilities to emulate CoverFlow on iPhone Safari can be found here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.satine.org/archives/2008/11/06/coverflow-for-safari-on-iphone/" rel="nofollow">http://www.satine.org/archives/2008/11/06/coverflow-for-safari-on-iphone/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fassy</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30651</link>
		<dc:creator>fassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a designer, I am still hoping for proper CSS2 support across desktop browsers, much less CSS3.  :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the iphone, this may catch on, but the problem is that it provides a way to create annoying animated ads -- the primary bad use for flash -- while providing no flash video, easily synchronized a/v, or any of the other good users for flash.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a designer, I am still hoping for proper CSS2 support across desktop browsers, much less CSS3.  <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>On the iphone, this may catch on, but the problem is that it provides a way to create annoying animated ads &#8212; the primary bad use for flash &#8212; while providing no flash video, easily synchronized a/v, or any of the other good users for flash.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ches</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30644</link>
		<dc:creator>ches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I found the falling leaves oddly mesmerizing...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the falling leaves oddly mesmerizing&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AnteL0pe</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30641</link>
		<dc:creator>AnteL0pe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tough to say any of these comments are inaccurate so far. Flash sucks and will be limited on the iPhone so this seems like a better method. Too bad it will never catch on.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough to say any of these comments are inaccurate so far. Flash sucks and will be limited on the iPhone so this seems like a better method. Too bad it will never catch on.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Keil Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30640</link>
		<dc:creator>Keil Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Awesome. Css3 is really developing. People must start to realize how to design for the web. Flash is no good. It&#039;s made by adobe LOL&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Css3 is really developing. People must start to realize how to design for the web. Flash is no good. It&#8217;s made by adobe LOL</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30639</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@steve,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for bringing my geek back to reality :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@steve,</p>

<p>Thanks for bringing my geek back to reality <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeffdc5</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30637</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffdc5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just give us flash apple&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just give us flash apple</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It will NEVER catch on. Too many limitations.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will NEVER catch on. Too many limitations.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow. I used to work with CSS a bit back in the day. I had NO IDEA it could do stuff like this. I&#039;m all for looking for alternatives to Flash on the iPhone, if nothing else so I don&#039;t have to hear people whine about it anymore. But like you said, this doesn&#039;t address the issue of Flash video, which is probably what most of the whiners are looking for.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I used to work with CSS a bit back in the day. I had NO IDEA it could do stuff like this. I&#8217;m all for looking for alternatives to Flash on the iPhone, if nothing else so I don&#8217;t have to hear people whine about it anymore. But like you said, this doesn&#8217;t address the issue of Flash video, which is probably what most of the whiners are looking for.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Afrocane</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/02/06/webkit-tells-flash-kiss-apps-css-animation-3d-iphone-safari-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-30627</link>
		<dc:creator>Afrocane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;very nice&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice</p>]]></content:encoded>
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