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We should be able to do that, because after all; your tv remote has a mute button on it. Right?

Any technology has the potential to cause suckiness if it's not applied right. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Flash can create fantastic interactive experiences when it is designed and coded responsibly.

If someone tags your garage with red spray paint you could always lead a campaign to ban red paint, but you'd be missing the point. Flash could deliver excellent experiences on the iPhone, and with Apple's strict-as-hell pass/fail reviewing, you can bet that they wouldn't be approving any bloated pieces of crap (unless they generated fart noises or something useful like that). You want to talk about garbage- how about 70% of the app store. But there is also 30% of brilliance. Flash is no different, as long as it has a well-coded runtime suitable to the platform. Whether or not Apple will allow anyone to tickle their low level API's for perfomance's sake is another issue altogether.

At any rate- don't blame Flash because Flash ads exist. If you truly think that is all Flash is about, you need to educate yourself on what Flash is really capable of- not just focus on bad things that are created with the technology.

If its so cool, why does Adobe refuse to add a stop context menu item? Because the principal use of Flash is advertising. Thats the truth that you can't seem to handle.

No people who hate flash not because they they lack talent or patience, but because we have to suffer the annoyance every day of having our screens take over by the work product of the twits who claim to have the "talent" and "patience" who whore themselves out to advertisers so they can push useless and annoying advertising into our faces.

If I said I didn't like Cabbage would you post that its because I don't have the patience to farm?

Most people I know who hate flash, hate it because over half the ads on the internet are flash based. They don't necessarily hate the actual idea, it just every other ad you run into is flash based and getting rid of flash can easily mean browsing with no ads.

On the other hand, I have seen some jaw-dropping designs/websites with Flash and I gota tell you, it's insane (in a good way lol)

It's actually quite sad that these people only have use of their left brain and blame Flash, which requires both sides of the brain.

Maybe show the first frame, so you would have a clue if you wanted to click it or not, that preserves the advertising value while eliminating the annoyance value.

Apple could insist that Flash block-like feature be built in and always on by default unless the user configures if off. This would be doing the entire internet community a favor by forcing Adobe's hand on the single most annoying browser extension ever developed in the history of the internet.