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	<title>Comments on: Next Gen iPhone: Asahi Kasei Confirmed for Digital Compass</title>
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		<title>By: Warranty Car</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-104130</link>
		<dc:creator>Warranty Car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While surfing Bing I came across this post...very interesting! I enjoy reading about this type of information. I&#039;ll certainly bookmark your site for additional review&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While surfing Bing I came across this post...very interesting! I enjoy reading about this type of information. I'll certainly bookmark your site for additional review</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46626</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is already an app that measures wind speed by converting the volume of the wind on the mic into a wind speed reading.  http://www.goingapps.com&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is already an app that measures wind speed by converting the volume of the wind on the mic into a wind speed reading.  <a href="http://www.goingapps.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.goingapps.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think everyone who reads this comments section just got alot more excited about the digital compass. Thanks icebike and Al. Very informative.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone who reads this comments section just got alot more excited about the digital compass. Thanks icebike and Al. Very informative.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46440</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How many times have you pulled up your GPS location, only to wonder which direction you are facing?  I&#039;ll be honest there have been times where I wasn&#039;t sure which direction I needed to go to start following a Google map on the iPhone.  Current Google Maps software always makes &quot;up&quot; to be north, but with a compass like this, there may now be a setting to make the direction you are facing to be &quot;up&quot; on the phone&#039;s map, just like your car GPS device does.  This is a huge feature, I have seen way too many people saying things like &quot;why do I want a compass&quot; and on and on...  Apple would not be putting this in just so that you have a compass, it&#039;s going to enhance many applications on iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times have you pulled up your GPS location, only to wonder which direction you are facing?  I'll be honest there have been times where I wasn't sure which direction I needed to go to start following a Google map on the iPhone.  Current Google Maps software always makes "up" to be north, but with a compass like this, there may now be a setting to make the direction you are facing to be "up" on the phone's map, just like your car GPS device does.  This is a huge feature, I have seen way too many people saying things like "why do I want a compass" and on and on...  Apple would not be putting this in just so that you have a compass, it's going to enhance many applications on iPhone.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: icebike</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46436</link>
		<dc:creator>icebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Frog:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;It sounds like a bit of a nothing feature.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Perhaps it does at first blush, but when you read the specs on this chip you find out some interesting things which sets your mind wondering about applications.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First, the compass is a three plane compass, (three compasses in one) It can provide magnetic direction in three planes, X, Y, and Z (Think if it in aeronautical terms as  Heading, Pitch, Role.  Yaw can be deduced once you are motion by use of the GPS).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It can sense the orientation of the phone as it sits on a desk, or as you move it around in your hand or in your pocket.  The accuracy is 1.4 degree steps in all three planes. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Because of the technology involved in magnetic sensing, the readings need to be adjusted for temperature, so the chip has a separate temperature sensor, which can be used to tell the local temp (inside the phone), from -30 to +90 degrees Centigrade, to within .4 degrees of accuracy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This temperature data can be separately read out and used to invalidate your warranty :-P or display the phones temp.  If the chip is located away from the heat generating components in the phone (CPU and screen backlight), such as against the lower back cover of the phone, you also get a built in mini local weather station, or body heat sensor. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The phone will know its in your pocket as opposed to a purse or external case.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It can make all 4 of these measurements (XYZ+T) in 12.56ms starting from a power down state, and returning to power down automatically as soon as the measurement is complete, which translates into very good power conservation.  Each measurement is automatically time stamped.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some of this information would be redundant with the accelerometer, (which appears to operate in one plane only). But that is a good thing in that one sensor can be used to calibrate another. (&quot;Swinging
&quot; the compass as you drive) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the accelerometer says the top edge of the phone is down, but the compass says the top of the phone is up, the phone is falling - Fast.  So what? Well this can be used to invalidate your warranty BEFORE it hits the ground, or as a WII like controller for games. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So thinking beyond the obvious Mapping application and Geotagging of photos,  there are a lot of gaming applications that can be developed when you can sense not only roll (like the current phone) but also the exact direction,angle,tilt,upside,downside, of the phone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wire sensing, current measurement (is this 220 volt circuit hot?) can be done by measuring magnetic deflection when the phone is held close to a wire.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Turn by turn becomes more precise, because you don&#039;t have to be in motion for the GPS to sense heading.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Temperature readings can be collected and graphed. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The phone will know who you currently have a crush on by how warm your hand gets when she calls.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Throw in some clever APP developer to measure wind noise at the Mic as you swing the phone 360 degrees and you also get wind direction and speed estimates.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Really, don&#039;t dismiss this as a pointless sop to google street view.  It has a lot of potential.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frog:</p>

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  <p>It sounds like a bit of a nothing feature.</p>
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<p>Perhaps it does at first blush, but when you read the specs on this chip you find out some interesting things which sets your mind wondering about applications.</p>

<p>First, the compass is a three plane compass, (three compasses in one) It can provide magnetic direction in three planes, X, Y, and Z (Think if it in aeronautical terms as  Heading, Pitch, Role.  Yaw can be deduced once you are motion by use of the GPS).</p>

<p>It can sense the orientation of the phone as it sits on a desk, or as you move it around in your hand or in your pocket.  The accuracy is 1.4 degree steps in all three planes. </p>

<p>Because of the technology involved in magnetic sensing, the readings need to be adjusted for temperature, so the chip has a separate temperature sensor, which can be used to tell the local temp (inside the phone), from -30 to +90 degrees Centigrade, to within .4 degrees of accuracy.</p>

<p>This temperature data can be separately read out and used to invalidate your warranty <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  or display the phones temp.  If the chip is located away from the heat generating components in the phone (CPU and screen backlight), such as against the lower back cover of the phone, you also get a built in mini local weather station, or body heat sensor. </p>

<p>The phone will know its in your pocket as opposed to a purse or external case.</p>

<p>It can make all 4 of these measurements (XYZ+T) in 12.56ms starting from a power down state, and returning to power down automatically as soon as the measurement is complete, which translates into very good power conservation.  Each measurement is automatically time stamped.  </p>

<p>Some of this information would be redundant with the accelerometer, (which appears to operate in one plane only). But that is a good thing in that one sensor can be used to calibrate another. ("Swinging
" the compass as you drive) </p>

<p>If the accelerometer says the top edge of the phone is down, but the compass says the top of the phone is up, the phone is falling - Fast.  So what? Well this can be used to invalidate your warranty BEFORE it hits the ground, or as a WII like controller for games. </p>

<p>So thinking beyond the obvious Mapping application and Geotagging of photos,  there are a lot of gaming applications that can be developed when you can sense not only roll (like the current phone) but also the exact direction,angle,tilt,upside,downside, of the phone.</p>

<p>Wire sensing, current measurement (is this 220 volt circuit hot?) can be done by measuring magnetic deflection when the phone is held close to a wire.</p>

<p>Turn by turn becomes more precise, because you don't have to be in motion for the GPS to sense heading.</p>

<p>Temperature readings can be collected and graphed. </p>

<p>The phone will know who you currently have a crush on by how warm your hand gets when she calls.</p>

<p>Throw in some clever APP developer to measure wind noise at the Mic as you swing the phone 360 degrees and you also get wind direction and speed estimates.</p>

<p>Really, don't dismiss this as a pointless sop to google street view.  It has a lot of potential.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46410</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Meh... what&#039;s next, a pair of retractable binoculars? :roll:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh... what's next, a pair of retractable binoculars? <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: OmariJames</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46407</link>
		<dc:creator>OmariJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ooo. Sounds good. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;802.11n =]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooo. Sounds good. </p>

<p>802.11n =]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46405</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It sounds like a bit of a nothing feature.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like a bit of a nothing feature.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dima</title>
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		<dc:creator>dima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and a larger battery&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and a larger battery</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dima</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46403</link>
		<dc:creator>dima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All we need now is more Ram&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All we need now is more Ram</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: unrepaired</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46402</link>
		<dc:creator>unrepaired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It would seem that this does indeed confirm new hardware for all the doubters out there&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that this does indeed confirm new hardware for all the doubters out there</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: twilightghostz</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/05/21/gen-iphone-asahi-kasei-confirmed-digital-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-46401</link>
		<dc:creator>twilightghostz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sweet.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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