Comments on: Next Generation iPhone Auto-Focus, Compass, & More… Caught on Camera?

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By: binocular cameras

binocular cameras — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:57:56 +0000

i phone cp has the latest capability of handling a huge amount of data and it can generate images that can even better than a digital camera.

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By: Agustin

Agustin — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:52:44 +0000

I think it is stupid you can get most of that stuff with jailbreaking your iPhone. And they didnt even change the look of the new iPhone called 3G S

By: dabido

dabido — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:05:56 +0000

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=22.373,+114.115167&sll=37.77102,-122.411749&sspn=0.008413,0.015664&ie=UTF8&ll=22.373045,114.115028&spn=0.00246,0.003916&t=h&z=18&iwloc=A

the link to where the photo was taken via the lat/long provided. hilarious!

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Richter10.2 Media Group — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:06:43 +0000

Wow, interesting. Lets see

By: Tom B

Tom B — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:50:19 +0000

The photo showing the CPU log seems to have a strange light semicircle around the speaker at the top of the phone. This ain’t on the 3G model currently…

By: jamesbond007

jamesbond007 — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:57:10 +0000

i like that, camera + video slider, from left to right

By: Shane

Shane — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:36:42 +0000

Looks like the rumor that the screen is still LCD may be true. I see a light grey black level that would not be eveident with OLED screens. If the screen is still LCD I will for sure be skipping this model upgrade.

By: Anon

Anon — Sun, 31 May 2009 23:34:31 +0000

@FreeLunch: Yes, Apple will be very disappointed with these boobs for creating the free press for them. All Apple had to do was sacrifice a premature confirmation of a few things people had been predicting for months anyway.

By: Alexandre Strube

Alexandre Strube — Sun, 31 May 2009 22:37:22 +0000

The speedometer is taken with an iphone, as seen in its metadata. But doesn’t specify which one. And as the pic is reduced, I don’t know if now the iphone can do it or if it was something done later

By: FreeLunch

FreeLunch — Sun, 31 May 2009 20:34:15 +0000

Well I thank the guy for the photos, however, I believe it would be pretty easy to find out who it was. With the lat/longitude on the pics, they know what factory it came from. In addition, with the odometer on there, it narrows down the cars. Just take a look at employee cars and there’s a good chance you know who leaked it. it could be an employee’s friend’s car. However, I’m sure apple will yell at the factory management that allowed the leak.

By: Frankless

Frankless — Sun, 31 May 2009 19:33:39 +0000

I don’t see the chrome edge around the outside of this iPhone like the iPhone 3g and 1st gem iPhone

By: Dstreelm

Dstreelm — Sun, 31 May 2009 19:22:49 +0000

So just for fun i downloaded that speedometer photo and dug through the metadata...

Lat: 22,22.38N Long: 114,6.91E Timestamp: 5/30/09, 1:51:15 AM

Taking that to WalframAlpha proves it was taken in HK, also device says Apple iPhone, but nothing else.

I was wondering if apple will incorporate compass data along with GPS data on photos? This could be leading to maybe a new version of iphoto that would plot your photos, google streetview style or something like that

By: moorhuhn03

moorhuhn03 — Sun, 31 May 2009 17:58:18 +0000

the list on the lower part of the cpu screenshot seem to be runnig processes. there are MoblieSMS, Mobile;Musicplayer,Springboard,Preferences, and so on.. the last ones are to blurred to make them legible.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Sun, 31 May 2009 17:39:46 +0000

Hmm… It is on the network 3. This might mean it is changing network or becoming network free… I hope it doesn’t change it’s network to 3 because in the UK 3 has awful coverage!

By: Alan@LEI

Alan@LEI — Sun, 31 May 2009 16:23:13 +0000

14: That's legit. Look at how its displayed. It in landscape with other keyboards enabled and while they are on the "To" field. Activate all of your keyboards. I just did it. I'm in the U.S. There is a "space" "@" then a "." its legit. I'm on iPhone OS 3.0 beta 3 and it still has that. Look cloasely. Don't just jump to conclusions.

As for the activation of the battery percentage, what string would you add to the N82AP.plist in order to activate this? I am on an iPhone 3G. I found out how to get the new camera application to ahow the videos slider and much more about 2 weeks ago. I can tell you these pictures are the real deal. When you modify the N82AP to display this screen, the shutter is closed and will not open. This is due to us not having the correct camera. I have been in the process of activating the working video features on a regular old iPhone 3G. I have to modify the actual camera application so that is going to take some time as I also have to mess with the frameworks.

As for MMS on the iPhone 2G I have almost finished with this. Stay tuned. Limited Edition iPhone everyone. Me and Mike are gonna keep you all up-to-date with everything iPhone and iPod touch!

By: Elvis

Elvis — Sun, 31 May 2009 16:21:20 +0000

Does the icon in the LRH corner look like a movie camera?
Some sort of electronic or software compass might assist with turn-by-turn driving and walking directions.
Is is possible the matte finish is a rubber texture finish?
I suspect the new camera might sports faster CCD with low lux capability vs. adding a flash which we all know drains batteries in a flash, pun intended.

By: 14

14 — Sun, 31 May 2009 16:02:10 +0000

the chrome thing around the speaker is kindof ugly but otherwise these pics make me very excited. However, these are probably fake. I am on 3.0 and if you go to the messages app and press the new message button the keyboard just has a big space button, whereas in the above picture it has space @ and a period button. anyone else on 3.0 check it out for yourself.

By: Appleking

Appleking — Sun, 31 May 2009 13:53:14 +0000

This is wack, that is not a oled screen. I dont give a fuck about a compass. Palm pre looking better by the day.

By: thekevinmonster

thekevinmonster — Sun, 31 May 2009 13:16:14 +0000

@ryanzoom: GPS cannot tell which direction you are facing. Compasses can.

By: Rob

Rob — Sun, 31 May 2009 11:26:55 +0000

@tech kidd thats a 3.0 feature that shows the last picture you took and you can click to go straight to that picture in the camera roll

By: Sophus

Sophus — Sun, 31 May 2009 11:22:16 +0000

This is my first post.

The speedometer is most likely a picture taken on the newer iPhone camera showing how awesome it is now to take night rme shots.

Sorry if that was already posted but I thought I read all the comments.

The digital compass will be cool for gettng a true "points north" and the example apple used was in maps you could take a picture of a building and an image could be overlayed telling info about that building because of gps and compass.

By: Ryanzoom

Ryanzoom — Sun, 31 May 2009 10:12:53 +0000

Is it me being stupid. But what is the point of a digital compass?

By: Ellery Familia

Ellery Familia — Sun, 31 May 2009 08:10:07 +0000

Really curious about the speedometer… is that from an 08 Nissan Versa? or 08 Toyota Yaris? (or similar)… perhaps a sentra… I’m clueless.

By: Fred

Fred — Sun, 31 May 2009 07:55:04 +0000

@BBYM, the photos were taken in HK.

By: Carl

Carl — Sun, 31 May 2009 06:33:47 +0000

BBYM we use Km in Canada.

By: BBYM

BBYM — Sun, 31 May 2009 05:58:18 +0000

The last pic of speedometer is in kph. So is that mean pic wasn’t taking in US?? if so were? Europe and iphone??

By: icebike

icebike — Sun, 31 May 2009 05:53:51 +0000

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By: icebike

icebike — Sun, 31 May 2009 05:48:25 +0000

@Jeremy Sikora:

In response to "how does the auto focus work" replied:

I would have thought it would work just like any other phone with a auto focus camera.

First, there are very few phones with auto focus lenses. (Basically, a couple of Erickson and Samsung models and the Nokia N78 and maybe a couple others). And the ones out there are not all that great and the focus mechanism fails often.

Many phones claiming autofocus REALLY are fixed focus (always focused) from 3 inches to infinity.

There are only two methods for autofocus in cameras as small as cell phones.

The first, the kind used by Samsung/Nokia takes a tiny little motor to move the lens in and out. It has a relatively short life, and is really sensitive to being dropped. Its Slow to focus, and power hungry. There are a lot of complaints about this technology.

The second method has no moving parts, and uses something called a Liquid lens, which is robust, and not so sensitive to drop. You can read about them here: http://optics.org/cws/article/industry/31500

One of the suppliers of Liquid Lens packages is right down the road from Apple in Sunnyvale. http://www.maxim-ic.com/viewpressrelease.cfm/release_id/1521

I was hoping Apple wouldn't go with the old cranky motor driven lens with moving parts.

For all the talk of auto focus, why is it all of the pictures in the linked article are so crapp*y?

By: Matt Hall

Matt Hall — Sun, 31 May 2009 03:54:38 +0000

Also did you notice the date next to the time? You can enable that with the new sbsettings as well.

By: Matt Hall

Matt Hall — Sun, 31 May 2009 03:52:32 +0000

The % battery indicator can be added by modding a plist file or even easier by jailbreaking, which you would have to do anyway to edit the plist file, downloading the newest ver of sbsettings (2.99) and enabling it in the more section.

By: sting7k

sting7k — Sun, 31 May 2009 03:24:53 +0000

Is the % of battery remaining part of the 3.0 OS? I hadn’t seen that before.

By: frog

frog — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:44:16 +0000

Looks legit, but you never know these days. It’s probably leaked by Johnny Ive – to strangle the Pre’s media attention lol.

By: Jeremy Sikora

Jeremy Sikora — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:13:39 +0000

Ok, I give up… there are some shots with a chrome bezel with auto focus… Hmm…

By: Richard Lai

Richard Lai — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:12:16 +0000

Ah, you beat me to it, Jeremy.

By: Jeremy Sikora

Jeremy Sikora — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:11:18 +0000

@Rene, looks like it. The only picture with the compass has the black bezel. All shots with the chrome look to have the basic 3.0 features.

By: Richard Lai

Richard Lai — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:11:05 +0000

@Jeremy: I noticed that too, and in fact one of the “prototypes” has a funny circle around the top speaker.

By: Jeremy Sikora

Jeremy Sikora — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:10:06 +0000

Ok – after a closer look the ring around the speaker in a few pictures may be a reflection… can’t really tell. But the chrome bezel and black bezel seem to be pretty obvious.

By: Rene Ritchie

Rene Ritchie — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:08:36 +0000

One current iPhone 3G running 3.0 and one iPhone next gen with compass and auto-focus?

By: Jeremy Sikora

Jeremy Sikora — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:06:48 +0000

If you look at all of the pictures you can tell there are at least two different phones there. One clearly has a black bezel while the other has the chrome bezel. Another difference is in the headset speaker. One has a chrome ring around it while the other simply looks like the current iPhone speaker.

Like mentioned above the poster clearly states he has a prototype... but how many...

By: Richard Lai

Richard Lai — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:59:23 +0000

@Spidesol: the author said his friend wouldn't let him take pictures of the body because it was a confidential engineering prototype, plus the body "will definitely be different to the final retail version".

@Matt Hall: How did you enable the hidden features in 3.0? Some say the author could have done exactly that to produce these photos.

By: Duvi

Duvi — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:48:10 +0000

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By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:46:45 +0000

@Spidesol – From the google translation it sounds like the phone case/hardware the person saw wasn’t the final production version (though apparently it had the compass/new cam/af). I suppose that makes it a bit more sketchy, but I’d guess this is legit from the photos.

By: Spidesol

Spidesol — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:28:47 +0000

Ok so why didn’t this person take a pic of the back of the phone so we can see a light up apple logo?

By: Jeffdc5

Jeffdc5 — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:23:34 +0000

wow can’t wait to check this out

By: AdMm

AdMm — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:16:58 +0000

@ Matt Hall “Just like mine http://yfrog.com/5e7z3j

it’s a hidden 3.0 feature. Little bit of tweaking to unlock it.” How??

By: Adam

Adam — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:06:32 +0000

@Matt Hall: It was a photo. Yes auto-focus is quite clear.

By: Matt Hall

Matt Hall — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:55:38 +0000

The last picture of the speedometer is that a picture? Or what? It looks really clear if it is a pic if not is it some sort of speedometer app.

By: Jeremy Sikora

Jeremy Sikora — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:45:57 +0000

@icebike, I would have thought it would work just like any other phone with a auto focus camera. Maybe it does and it simply adds the bonus of being able to move the box with your finger.

By: icebike

icebike — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:41:43 +0000

So how does this focus work in real life? Moving parts?

By: tech kidd

tech kidd — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:35:25 +0000

i think these photos are certainly legitimate though. i’ll be so excited to get my hands on the new one with these video recording capabilities and auto-focus features. the only other feature i’m dying for is radio capabilities on the iPhone.

i’d love if Apple implemented a new model on the iPhone lineup w/ a QWERTY keyboard.

By: Jeremy Sikora

Jeremy Sikora — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:34:36 +0000

The idea of the auto focus is you move the blue box with your finger to choose what you want the camera to focus on.

By: tech kidd

tech kidd — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:30:37 +0000

@omarijames...

i believe the box in the lower left corner is a thumbnail shot of the most recent picture taken on the camera roll.

and the blue square in the pic is used for the auto-focus according to other sources that have reported on this new iPhone in the wild.

By: OmariJames

OmariJames — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:24:44 +0000

Two questions.

In the first camera pic - does anyone know what the box in the lower left hand , what is that ? Does it have anything to do with the orange thing in the picture ?

Also the blue square.

About the compass ... Is that a seperate app or is it in google maps ? If it's seperate only , that's a waste.

By: OmariJames

OmariJames — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:18:04 +0000

I think looking at the CPU Activity pic — I feel like apple is getting closer to this ” iTablet ” thing.

By: Matt Hall

Matt Hall — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:10:56 +0000

Just like mine http://yfrog.com/5e7z3j

it’s a hidden 3.0 feature. Little bit of tweaking to unlock it.

By: Justin

Justin — Sat, 30 May 2009 23:58:02 +0000

Interesting, you can see the % on the battery indicator as well.