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	<title>Comments on: Will Apple&#8217;s iPhone Surpass Nokia by 2012?</title>
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		<title>By: EvilEuropean</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-63500</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilEuropean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple makes smart phones, Nokia makes every kind of phone. Unless Apple decides to start making simpler phones, which I doubt, I cant see them beating Nokia. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nokia has its work cut out in the high end but they have got decent hardware, they just need to get the software sorted out. If they can do that, everyone, not just Apple, should be afraid.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple makes smart phones, Nokia makes every kind of phone. Unless Apple decides to start making simpler phones, which I doubt, I cant see them beating Nokia. </p>

<p>Nokia has its work cut out in the high end but they have got decent hardware, they just need to get the software sorted out. If they can do that, everyone, not just Apple, should be afraid.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Philly Z!</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-62868</link>
		<dc:creator>Philly Z!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple will always have a Niche and while 35% of ppl would love an iPhone only 15-20% will be able 2 afford them but that&#039;s all apple needs just like how apple will never take over the computer market yet, they&#039;ll always have a profitable following&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple will always have a Niche and while 35% of ppl would love an iPhone only 15-20% will be able 2 afford them but that&#8217;s all apple needs just like how apple will never take over the computer market yet, they&#8217;ll always have a profitable following</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: iDavey</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-61851</link>
		<dc:creator>iDavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My opinion is that as some have stated, because of raw amount of handsets shipped...they will maintain leadership when compared to Apple. As long as there is only one variant of an Apple phone...there&#039;s no logical way they could take over globally. Nokia has cheap handsets, mid-range, and high end. I can go get a Nokia out of a gas station for $20. The same can&#039;t be said for anyone else besides Motorola and some off brand type stuff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple would have to forgo their whole life choice of making top end products to beat out Nokia. But Apple will never do that as long as Mr. Jobs is there. And that&#039;s not really a bad thing. BEcause as was stated...they get profit. And that&#039;s what matters.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion is that as some have stated, because of raw amount of handsets shipped&#8230;they will maintain leadership when compared to Apple. As long as there is only one variant of an Apple phone&#8230;there&#8217;s no logical way they could take over globally. Nokia has cheap handsets, mid-range, and high end. I can go get a Nokia out of a gas station for $20. The same can&#8217;t be said for anyone else besides Motorola and some off brand type stuff.</p>

<p>Apple would have to forgo their whole life choice of making top end products to beat out Nokia. But Apple will never do that as long as Mr. Jobs is there. And that&#8217;s not really a bad thing. BEcause as was stated&#8230;they get profit. And that&#8217;s what matters.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-61704</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t see Apple getting 35% market share, I really can&#039;t. I&#039;d love them to.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see Apple getting 35% market share, I really can&#8217;t. I&#8217;d love them to.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: icebike</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-61686</link>
		<dc:creator>icebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with A1by, the market is drastically changed since the first iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you wanted to get into this smartphone market you had to go out and invent a Phone OS, for forever cow tow to Microsoft.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not any more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are now 4 widely available smartphone OSs for phones: Symbian, Android, WebOS, WinowsMobile.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Symbian and WinMo have a lot of users, Android is growing users fast, and who knows what Palm will do with WebOS.  Those guys always made more money licensing than producing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So that just leaves Hardware uniqueness and quality as the sticking point.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With more and more handsets being built around the ARM processors it would appear that the hardware problem is getting pretty generic as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think Apple&#039;s lead is diminishing all the time.  The thundering herd is catching up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the next iPhone release is SIMPLY an OS overhaul on the same platform, or a faster processor with the same OS, Apple falls further.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They need to re-invent the Interface, AND add a super speedy processor by this time next year.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The 3Gs may just be a stopgap.  I hope so.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with A1by, the market is drastically changed since the first iPhone.</p>

<p>If you wanted to get into this smartphone market you had to go out and invent a Phone OS, for forever cow tow to Microsoft.</p>

<p>Not any more.</p>

<p>There are now 4 widely available smartphone OSs for phones: Symbian, Android, WebOS, WinowsMobile.</p>

<p>Symbian and WinMo have a lot of users, Android is growing users fast, and who knows what Palm will do with WebOS.  Those guys always made more money licensing than producing.</p>

<p>So that just leaves Hardware uniqueness and quality as the sticking point.</p>

<p>With more and more handsets being built around the ARM processors it would appear that the hardware problem is getting pretty generic as well.</p>

<p>I think Apple&#8217;s lead is diminishing all the time.  The thundering herd is catching up.</p>

<p>If the next iPhone release is SIMPLY an OS overhaul on the same platform, or a faster processor with the same OS, Apple falls further.</p>

<p>They need to re-invent the Interface, AND add a super speedy processor by this time next year.</p>

<p>The 3Gs may just be a stopgap.  I hope so.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: a1by</title>
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		<dc:creator>a1by</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the problem Apple has painted themselves into is we&#039;re high end market.  Let&#039;s be real eventually all the features the iPhone has will be ubiquitous
- Great web browser (check)
- Free Apps (check)
- Media player (check probably via pandora/slacker/lala)
- PIM sync (myphone, smrtgrd, even wireless carrier)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As you can see with Palm it doesn&#039;t really take a whole lot to flip the market.  Apple won&#039;t be able to dominate smartphones like they did with mp3 players because there are just too many ways people like to use their mobile devices.  Some live and die by the phone, some by the web browser, some by messaging, some by business data apps, and then there&#039;s the weird thing we haven&#039;t seen or heard of yet.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem Apple has painted themselves into is we&#8217;re high end market.  Let&#8217;s be real eventually all the features the iPhone has will be ubiquitous
- Great web browser (check)
- Free Apps (check)
- Media player (check probably via pandora/slacker/lala)
- PIM sync (myphone, smrtgrd, even wireless carrier)</p>

<p>As you can see with Palm it doesn&#8217;t really take a whole lot to flip the market.  Apple won&#8217;t be able to dominate smartphones like they did with mp3 players because there are just too many ways people like to use their mobile devices.  Some live and die by the phone, some by the web browser, some by messaging, some by business data apps, and then there&#8217;s the weird thing we haven&#8217;t seen or heard of yet.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-61640</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple will surpass Nokia as long as AT&amp;T gets dropped as the sole iPhone seller.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;AT&amp;T - WHERE THE HELL IS MMS/TETHERING FOR MY IPHONE? WHY AREN&#039;T WE READING ANY STORIES ABOUT MMS/TETHERING AND HOLDING AT&amp;T ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR BULLSH*T ACTIONS? STOP RETARDING THE IPHONE EXPERIENCE. IT WILL GET YOU NOTHING BUT A WORLD OF HURT IN 2010.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;C&#039;mon, Rene, it&#039;s time to check in with AT&amp;T and find out how much longer they are going to screw us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple will surpass Nokia as long as AT&amp;T gets dropped as the sole iPhone seller.</p>

<p>AT&amp;T &#8211; WHERE THE HELL IS MMS/TETHERING FOR MY IPHONE? WHY AREN&#8217;T WE READING ANY STORIES ABOUT MMS/TETHERING AND HOLDING AT&amp;T ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR BULLSH*T ACTIONS? STOP RETARDING THE IPHONE EXPERIENCE. IT WILL GET YOU NOTHING BUT A WORLD OF HURT IN 2010.</p>

<p>C&#8217;mon, Rene, it&#8217;s time to check in with AT&amp;T and find out how much longer they are going to screw us.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-61599</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with Zen because Nokia made a lot investment in Nokia Siemens Networks jv two years ago.  I was a Nokia employee and made a move towards NSN because I couldn&#039;t justify where Nokia devices roadmap is going.  Nokia&#039;s market share will drop because they have stoped innovating phones and now chasing Apple and RIM.  They still have a better portfolio than apple because you can find a Nokia handset from 20 up to 1200 USD but Nokia since Apple will neve be the same.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Zen because Nokia made a lot investment in Nokia Siemens Networks jv two years ago.  I was a Nokia employee and made a move towards NSN because I couldn&#8217;t justify where Nokia devices roadmap is going.  Nokia&#8217;s market share will drop because they have stoped innovating phones and now chasing Apple and RIM.  They still have a better portfolio than apple because you can find a Nokia handset from 20 up to 1200 USD but Nokia since Apple will neve be the same.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Hassan</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-61594</link>
		<dc:creator>Hassan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s irrelevent if apple&#039;s market share surpasses nokia, they already beat nokia on revenue share. And the bottom line is what the shareholders really care about.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s irrelevent if apple&#8217;s market share surpasses nokia, they already beat nokia on revenue share. And the bottom line is what the shareholders really care about.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: zen</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-61588</link>
		<dc:creator>zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nokia will inevitably see a drop in their handset sales as more companies produce products for the networks Nokia installed and developed in most countries. Nokia only got a head-start in handset sales by developing their network installation business, so they will always be a part of mobile communications just a smaller part.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nokia will inevitably see a drop in their handset sales as more companies produce products for the networks Nokia installed and developed in most countries. Nokia only got a head-start in handset sales by developing their network installation business, so they will always be a part of mobile communications just a smaller part.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Appleking</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2009/07/09/apple-iphone-surpass-nokia-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-61582</link>
		<dc:creator>Appleking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nokia aint buying palm, infact no one is. Nokia is dying. The only major players in 2012 will be apple palm and rimm everyoneelse better step there game up.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nokia aint buying palm, infact no one is. Nokia is dying. The only major players in 2012 will be apple palm and rimm everyoneelse better step there game up.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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