Make the roadway bigger, dont cap the number of vehicles on it. Oh and if its that much of a problem, tell Apple to unlock the iPhone, and let T-Mobile take some of your traffic away...oh not going to do that are you? Didnt think so...

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/10/10/1628210/Why-ATampT-Should-Dump-the-iPhones-Unlimited-Data-Plan

both carriers are the same in coverage, if not where att drops a call verzion will drop it 500 feet further. and vice versa.

as for connection issues, why is only the att iphone on att having all these problems, att only carries 3g phones and only one is affected with call quality dropped calls, which is the iphone, so its the att network not able to handle an iphone or crap hardware in an iphone with poor performance which apple is trying to fix with tweak to the os.

Richy Rich, AT&T had no clue what they were getting into, they only saw the phone a month before it was released but had agreed to carry it at least a year before it being launched.

Yay conglomerate domination - their way or the highway. Where's Ralph Nader when we need him? Isn't this the sort of thing that gets his dander up?

And, Matt, you are a selfish, son of a biatch!! You bastage!!! (like I really care)

Let's all take a look at the BIG picture. My "abusive" data usage does not effect someone in the next town over let alone another state. AT&T is still making a profit from me and an even bigger profit off of people in markets where there is NO 3G coverage even though that's what they're paying for. There is enough profit that there should not be these complaints. AT&T has the resources to build out the network but chooses not to. Instead they nickel and dime it's users. And talk about implementing 4G while 3G is non-existant in too many areas. I sincerely feel sorry for the people who live in an area where the network isn't built out to the capacity we all pay for. But this is NOT the fault of "abusive" data users. AT&T needs to get their act together and us users should stop getting upset at each-other and direct it to the real culprits.

Sidenote: I was in Wisconsin for several days with several vzw users and one t-mo user. NO-ONE had 3G or EVDO or anything of the like. However, I was pleased to have the only phone with option of being able to connect to wifi. So we've got that going for us as iPhone users. Additionally, I had the best signal and no dropped calls the whole trip to the Dells while several vzw users showed decent signal and tried to call out multiple times and as soon as they dialed out, the signal became non-existant and watched them all drop several calls a day.

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If you think really think that ATT will give a better deal if they change from unlimited only go check ATT stores for netbooks. I have gone to ATT stores and looked at netbooks there. I have seen data plans for 50MB and 250MB. It would be extremely easy to go over limits like that. And these are for netbooks that you can buy for the same amount of money elsewhere. People have had monthly bills for thousands of dollars for going over. This what they want for us plus extra money from the other end of the line too.

care to show us proof that you were able to get a 7.2mbps connection?? That hasn't gone live yet. To any US city, even on a beta test!! Or did you mean to say you "will" have access "when" it goes live. I am also in a city scheduled to get this upgrade (DFW) Texas. Furthermore, you will not get 7.2mbps out of a 7.2 (stated) speed more like 3.5-5.0 on average maybe higher in off peak hours.

All you saying that you're ok w it because you ate always on wifi why should you care at all if people Tethering are consuming your bandwith?

AT&T better worry less about dropped calls and more about dropped accounts.

and i hae used no more than 1 gb a month and im on ym iphone all day everyday i think some of the heavy users are just people that use the iphone to download every app song and movie instead of itunes. i use web and email all day never even reached much over 1gb a month. i do not want my rates jacked up at all but if they want to put a 5gb cap on fine but do not make me pay poor i dont mind the 30 bux a month its the same as smartphone data on any network.

this is a another reason why we need to have the iphone on every network it will lessen the load and allow everyone to be happy

This will affect less than 1% of users, so I dont get all the complaining.

@Justin

Im in Miami too and were in the first set of cities to get 7.2 so itll be soon!

AT&T wanted this device and at the same time they applaud the new customers but get angry that we use our data plans.

Makes no sense

Sounds like the phone is your problem, and not the carrier.. but what do I know.. and yes, you are free to complain.. but far to often, thats all people do.. voice your opinion by your actions is all I suggested.. if you want to continue to get slammed with a high bill and a crappy phone, just so you have something to complain about.. be my guest.

There are reasons why I have an iPhone and why I continue to have one. There are reasons why I haven't cancelled my contract and moved to another carrier. Do I need to explain them to you? Of course not.

I've had AT&T as a carrier for many years, and was perfectly happy with them until I bought an iPhone. I have given them a LOT of my hard-earned money over the years and I think that if I wish to demand better service, and criticize them as my service provider, I will do exactly that. Regardless of how it irritates you.

I'm not worried about your opinion.. I'm worried about your judgment.. you state that you signed up for unlimited.. you did.. but you are blatantly not following the rules that you also signed.. Whats hilarious is that you don't get it, and that you think there isn't a price to pay for the ignorance that you show.. problem is, not only will you pay.. but everyone else on this site will probably have to. Yes, thats makes me worry.. or maybe.. I'm just having a bad day.. either way.. do what you want.. just know there is consequence.

why are you so worried about other opinions? its almost like you get offended for some reason. Hilarious

You say you signed up for unlimited use, but when you signed their TOS, did you read the part about no tethering?.. Ohh wait, you only read/signed up for whats important to you.. great.

Why are you still with AT&T.. switch.. you'll free up some bandwidth for others. lol. I hate when folks complain about a bed thats uncomfortable, when they are the ones that made it.. if you knew, when you bought your phone, that it had horrible coverage, or you knew within the first 30 days.. you should have taken the phone back, and switched to another network.. The iphone isn't the end all of phones.. get something that works for you, and stop complaining. When you have options.

The iPhone is expensive enough as it is. The call quality on it is sketchy enough as it is. The connectivity quality is sketchy enough as it is. I don't need AT&T shoving me back down to EDGE or not allowing me on the Internet at all or charging me more for my already very expensive data plan just because I'm an iPhone user.

this just juscks...

In the case of website viewing on the iPhone, or any other mobile phone for that matter, shouldn't some of the issue be placed on web designers as well? During my web design class, I was told that while it wasn't enforced by law, web designers should create their website to accomodate for a wide range of devices, ranging from desktop with large 17+" screens to small mobile devices, such as cell phones. Look at TiPB for example. Viewing this website (mobile version) the webpage will load much faster when compared to the desktop version of TiPB webpage.

Charge the 1GB or under people $20, 2-3GB the same $30 and the abusers at 4+GB more! All fine by me.

EVEN IF we still all mostly have to pay $30, and you get better reliability and speeds from curbing the true abusers, youre STILL getting more for your money although not much cheaper, true?

Well said.

I doubt its anywhere NEAR 2% of iPhone users. Probably closer to .02%.

AT&T has recognized that 2% of their iphone users are using 90% of their bandwidth. This causes problems for the remaining 98% of the users, including me! I am sure the 2% are tethering PCs/laptops to their phones which is against the AT&T TOS.

I fully support AT&T pissing off 2% of their customers in order to make 98% of their customer's happier.

We must also understand that AT&T 3G bandwidth isn't necessarily limited by their network design but with technology. Their is only so much bandwidth they can support from a single radio. This cannot be resolved by simply adding more radios as this creates scalloped zones.

(Who am I? How dare I defend AT&T the evil empire? Well, I am not an AT&T employes and i have no relationship to AT&T other than being a customer. I have however worked for 3 telecommunications companies 2 of them ranking in the US fortune100 and performed some level of wireless network design).

Obama’s new FCC chairman’s “net neutrality” push will force carriers (and likely ISPs such as Comcast) away from unlimited Internet plans toward a “pay-per-byte” system because the government will leave them no other method to manage their network.

Way to play into the carrier FUD!!

That is exactly the fear tactic they are using to prevent NN from passing. EVEN if it were true, it would not affect 99% of the users. Only the 1% that pull 10 times the average bandwidth.

I'm fine with that. Bring it on! What are you afraid of?

Billing by the byte would be such a book-keeping nightmare that the carriers would choose simple tier billing, with overage charges. I'm fine with that too.

Don't raise the top unless you lower the bottom. No fair to get extra from the over-users if you still over-profit from the under users.

Drop the price $10 for the lower 30% of users and raise it $10 for the top 30% of users. But paying for tethering should waive that fee....

Wifi imposes LESS draw on your battery than 3G.

The power draw of the 3G transmitter is way higher than the WIFI transmitter. Wifi only has to go 100 feet. 3G has to go miles.

There are .00002% of the userbase that are abusive.

The normal iPhone user is not abusive. Check your ATT bill each month. If you have anywhere near 5 or 6 gig this is aimed at you.

With 5 phones on our corporate plan we TOTAL .75gig per month, including the guy that is too lazy to turn on Wifi, so he streams music 24/7 at his desk on 3G.

Anyone who breaks 4gig is tethering or slingboxing. No way around it.

If the price would come down for 99.999 percent of normal users, I would have no problem.

Gizmodo has a good analysis on this today at http://tr.im/B7YQ .

If you have complaints, instead of chewing out AT&T, send your rants to: The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Ave Washington, DC

...Where the real perpetrator of this offense lives.

I do not understand why AT&T doesn't invest a little in compression technologies to keep bandwidth usage down. with a 320x480 display full size images designed for multimillion pixel screens is really not necessary. If it meant I could surf the internet faster, and get an even healthier 3g network I would more than support AT&T compressing some web elements.

2). Apple need to work on there 3G Network. We have to put up with lots of drop calls, some part of town use your iPhone. I can never use my iPhone at home. what's that all about.

ATT need to work on getting they act together. No, ATT is thinking of ways to get more money out of use.

Works well here, and we have effectively the fastest iPhone data speeds in the world here because of that.

I pay too much as it is for phone/internet on my iPhone. If the prices continue to rise, I'm going to go elsewhere. The iPhone is great, but I won't be a fanboy to the utter detriment of my wallet.

The way I see AT&T is nothing but a crack slinging dope dealer and doesn't want others to sell the Phone and they always have their left hand held high on the ready to b*tch slaps its custermers and or crackheads.