no need to get your panties all in a bunch. Im just saying I looked at it and found it to be a simple comparison to a few othe popular devices. I mean sometimes you have to look at something for more than a second. How the media or whoever takes something isn’t reallly all that important to me as long as I undrstand it.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Yes, the subheading agrees with the chart. Great, I never said it did not. I spoke specifically of the title — you know, the lines at the very top of the slide, in the largest font — and the conclusions and coverage drawn from that title. Perhaps shouting will get it across:

THE CHART’S TITLE AND CONCLUSIONS DO NOT FLOW LOGICALLY FROM THE DATA IN THE CHART, OR THE SUBHEADING!

For Pete’s sake, I have been giving Apple credit every step of the way for a thriving ecosystem. But Ms Meeker’s study, and now TechCrunch’s and tIPB’s coverage, paints a picture not supported by the facts, or at least only supported by cherry-picked facts.

the chart clearly states : “iPhone/itouch vs. PSP/Wii/ds/blackberry/iPod”

I think that’s pretty straight forward.

“It’s simply a chart comparing iPhone to several other popular devices.” Agreed — and that is the whole point! Label it correctly — no problem, we can all agree iPod/iPhone sales have been phenomenal. But this tries to create a mantle they do not deserve, one which tIPB seems eager to eat up. And yes, the chart was part of a study. But to stick with the chart:

Title: “Fastest Hardware user Growth in Consumer Tech History.” Data: Omits other fastest sellers in favor of slower ones.

See? The data does not support the title or conclusion. That is why it is inaccurate, event “taken by itself.”

this isn’t a study. It’s simply a chart comparing iPhone to several other popular devices. Simple really. If news outlets And blogs report it as fact….well a lot of things are reported by news outlets and blogs as “fact”…..and truth be told the chart taken by itself is accurate…

Moving from “No True Scotsman” to “Reductio ad absurdum,” I see. No need for you to grasp for examples, nor is there any reason for this chart to cover everything. At the very least, all this chart has to cover is what it claims to cover, and this one fails.

The Chart’s Title says it is the “Fastest Hardware user Growth in Consumer Tech History.” I agree with you Ms Meeker probably just picked a few popular platforms, but that is precisely what dooms her case. To make such a claim, and then conveniently exclude comparably fast sellers, invalidates the chart, the study, and its conclusions. And yet blogs and news outlets repeat this flawed-from-the-start opinion as fact.

Yes, ipod/iphone sales are undeniably impressive, and well-deserved. But fastest in history? Ms. Meeker, come back with a non-cherrypicked appraisal, and perhaps we can honestly discuss that claim.

So lets throw in every thing from the first telephone to the first television to the first computer? honestly, i think they just took a few popular platforms and made a chart. Does it cover everything? Does any chart? Regardless, to deny that this is impressive is to deny logic.

If you are going to exclude one of the largest selling pieces of consumer tech in history on a graph trumpeting relative sales figures, you had better include a reason for exclusion, otherwise it is fair to question the conclusions and/or assume it was excluded because it did not fit the pre-determined conclusion of the author.

In logic circles, this sort of cherrypicking is generally referred to as the “No true Scotsman” fallacy. http://tinyurl.com/y9og5d

of course the results are cherrypicked! It’s all a conspiracy by the iPhone loving media goddamn it!!!! I mean of course the iPhone is going to beat gaming platforms Like the blackberry and the original iPod!!!! What do these people think we’re stupid? It’s clear that the evil empire that is apple is comtroling the media. I’m just glad I’m not the only one who sees it.

Surly the category “consuming electronic platform” would include Razrs and laptops and computers in general.

Comparing it to game platforms, which most adults don’t even own seems a bit of a stretch.

A phone appeals to everyone, and one that includes the internet in your pocket with a “Geico interface” and cool-factor is bound to out-pace game platforms.