Comments on: The Competition: Can Nokia Get it Together and Challenge the iPhone? http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/ More of everything iPhone and iPad Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:03:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: neil ryan http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-104552 neil ryan Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:26:59 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-104552 <p>Nokia is doing great things with symbian foundation. people said they needed to update OS and they are from ground up. Using QT.</p> Nokia is doing great things with symbian foundation. people said they needed to update OS and they are from ground up. Using QT.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-97961 Dennis Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:45:27 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-97961 <p>sorry... because unlike some of their recent phones, the N900 hasn't failed to impress people who have used one.</p> sorry… because unlike some of their recent phones, the N900 hasn’t failed to impress people who have used one.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-97960 Dennis Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:44:43 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-97960 <p>Apple is a U.S. computer company trying to distribute the iPhone worldwide. Nokia is a worldwide cellphone company trying to create a cellphone that is also a small computer. You're not going to sell every person on the planet any kind of smartphone without a pre-existing cellular data network, but regular cellphones are obviously essential in the developing world. China, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and parts of South East Asia are just catching up to Europe and East Asia in terms of internet access, cellular data, and computers. All three of those are necessary for the iPhone to function. That leaves out a lot of people.</p> <p>Over the past 10 years, Nokia has purchased part of Symbian, purchased a company that performs online data synchronization with PCs and phones, developed Maemo through its fifth iteration, opened a rather anemic software store, and made deals with the major record labels for digital distribution. They've experimented with the Internet Tablet, N-Gage integration (before they killed N-Gage), and a netbook, as well as multiple camera-focused form factors. Nokia has just as rabid fans as Apple. As a company, Nokia is looking pretty good, if you count those kinds of things as signs of a healthy company. </p> <p>The N900 seems to be the newest phone with real geek cred. The iPhone used to have that distinction, but it's simply too common now. The N900 won't appeal to most iPhone users or to most people. But evidently Nokia is doing something right, because unlike some of their</p> Apple is a U.S. computer company trying to distribute the iPhone worldwide. Nokia is a worldwide cellphone company trying to create a cellphone that is also a small computer. You’re not going to sell every person on the planet any kind of smartphone without a pre-existing cellular data network, but regular cellphones are obviously essential in the developing world. China, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and parts of South East Asia are just catching up to Europe and East Asia in terms of internet access, cellular data, and computers. All three of those are necessary for the iPhone to function. That leaves out a lot of people.

Over the past 10 years, Nokia has purchased part of Symbian, purchased a company that performs online data synchronization with PCs and phones, developed Maemo through its fifth iteration, opened a rather anemic software store, and made deals with the major record labels for digital distribution. They’ve experimented with the Internet Tablet, N-Gage integration (before they killed N-Gage), and a netbook, as well as multiple camera-focused form factors. Nokia has just as rabid fans as Apple. As a company, Nokia is looking pretty good, if you count those kinds of things as signs of a healthy company.

The N900 seems to be the newest phone with real geek cred. The iPhone used to have that distinction, but it’s simply too common now. The N900 won’t appeal to most iPhone users or to most people. But evidently Nokia is doing something right, because unlike some of their

]]> By: icebike http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-97914 icebike Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:00:19 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-97914 <p>In answer to above, yes, a LOT of people care.</p> <p>The N800 is the first real Linux phone. </p> <p>This means developers are EVERYWHERE and they are developing for a platform they already know and understand, and there is no tyrannical gate keeper to deal with. Maemo OS is more opensource than Android.</p> <p>The potential is awesome, as the current model is vastly under-clocked. Nokia (or your friendly hackers) can turn up the speed on that phone any time they want. </p> <p>The price is high. about $649 for an Unlocked phone, but this is without a carrier subsidy. About the same as an iPhone if you have to buy it at full retail without subsidy.</p> <p>Nokia owns Navtec, Free maps. Nokia owns Trolltech, One of the best Cross Platform development tools (used by KDE, Google Earth, etc).</p> <p>Plus they have like a million years of experience developing Cell phones for all environments, as well as cell tower equipment. </p> <p>So yeah, they can compete. If they just get moving, they are the 700 pound gorilla in this space.</p> In answer to above, yes, a LOT of people care.

The N800 is the first real Linux phone.

This means developers are EVERYWHERE and they are developing for a platform they already know and understand, and there is no tyrannical gate keeper to deal with. Maemo OS is more opensource than Android.

The potential is awesome, as the current model is vastly under-clocked. Nokia (or your friendly hackers) can turn up the speed on that phone any time they want.

The price is high. about $649 for an Unlocked phone, but this is without a carrier subsidy. About the same as an iPhone if you have to buy it at full retail without subsidy.

Nokia owns Navtec, Free maps. Nokia owns Trolltech, One of the best Cross Platform development tools (used by KDE, Google Earth, etc).

Plus they have like a million years of experience developing Cell phones for all environments, as well as cell tower equipment.

So yeah, they can compete. If they just get moving, they are the 700 pound gorilla in this space.

]]> By: Tim http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-97850 Tim Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:20:17 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-97850 <p>And the obvious question I have to ask is does anybody really care?</p> And the obvious question I have to ask is does anybody really care?

]]> By: Josel http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-97833 Josel Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:13:51 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-97833 <p>I used only Nokia phones for 9 years, from Manila to San Diego (except for brief encounter with blackberries). Nokia makes very good phones. I kinda miss the brand and "Options" menu.</p> <p>I'm holding on to my 3G until the 4th gen iPhone. N97's price might go down by that time which is worthy to consider.</p> I used only Nokia phones for 9 years, from Manila to San Diego (except for brief encounter with blackberries). Nokia makes very good phones. I kinda miss the brand and “Options” menu.

I’m holding on to my 3G until the 4th gen iPhone. N97′s price might go down by that time which is worthy to consider.

]]> By: Sting7k http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-97763 Sting7k Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:20:03 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-97763 <p>Nokia needs to take the US market seriously. Americans are done with the cheap phones they give us. Get some N-series phones paired with a carrier and compete. No one is going to buy an $800 nokia when the iPhone and others are across the street for 70% less.</p> Nokia needs to take the US market seriously. Americans are done with the cheap phones they give us. Get some N-series phones paired with a carrier and compete. No one is going to buy an $800 nokia when the iPhone and others are across the street for 70% less.

]]> By: fathom614 http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-97751 fathom614 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:30:35 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-97751 <p>It sure will be interesting to see what Nokia has up their sleeve in the coming year, but they better not wait to long.</p> It sure will be interesting to see what Nokia has up their sleeve in the coming year, but they better not wait to long.

]]> By: fastlane http://www.imore.com/2009/12/02/competition-nokia-challenge-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-97750 fastlane Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:30:14 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=16157#comment-97750 <p>Apple didn't really go blindly into the "cell phone" business. As a computer company, they made a small computer and <i>added</i> a phone.</p> <p>Nokia is still mostly seen as a "phone" maker. Maybe they should try to shake that label in 2010.</p> Apple didn’t really go blindly into the “cell phone” business. As a computer company, they made a small computer and added a phone.

Nokia is still mostly seen as a “phone” maker. Maybe they should try to shake that label in 2010.

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