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	<title>Comments on: Palm Pre, Palm Pixi, webOS Review from an iPhone Perspective &#8212; Smartphone Round Robin</title>
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		<title>By: Nick15</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-180946</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oops! Edit:&lt;/p&gt;

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    &lt;p&gt;He wanted the keyboard so much, as mentioned, he sacrificed screen real-estate on the Palm Pixi for it. I find that absurd.&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;I think you got it the other way around. The iPhone sacrificed screen real-estate to stick the virtual keyboard in it, not the Pre.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I thought you wrote &quot;Pre&quot; instead of &quot;Pixi&quot;. In that case, if you mean Ruby sacrificed screen real-estate on the Pixi relative to the Pre, I see what you mean.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...But then again, they didn&#039;t sacrifice any real-estate on the Pre to get the keyboard in there. And even the older, smaller-screen&#039;d Treo series and the Centro--with its 320x320 screens--still had more screen than what is left on an iPhone when you get the keyboard up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And then someone else also mentioned that you can do a lot more with the keyboard than type... with the iPhone, its keyboard is used ONLY for typing. The keyboard on WebOS phones--and even on the Treos and Centro as well--double as any other kind of control. The most common non-typing use for the Palm keyboard is a shortcut to programs or phone numbers: if you hold down, say, the H-key for two seconds, you can call your friend. Hold down the D-key and you load up your email. Easy and quick!&lt;/p&gt;
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    <p>He wanted the keyboard so much, as mentioned, he sacrificed screen real-estate on the Palm Pixi for it. I find that absurd.</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>I think you got it the other way around. The iPhone sacrificed screen real-estate to stick the virtual keyboard in it, not the Pre.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I thought you wrote &#8220;Pre&#8221; instead of &#8220;Pixi&#8221;. In that case, if you mean Ruby sacrificed screen real-estate on the Pixi relative to the Pre, I see what you mean.</p>

<p>&#8230;But then again, they didn&#8217;t sacrifice any real-estate on the Pre to get the keyboard in there. And even the older, smaller-screen&#8217;d Treo series and the Centro&#8211;with its 320&#215;320 screens&#8211;still had more screen than what is left on an iPhone when you get the keyboard up.</p>

<p>And then someone else also mentioned that you can do a lot more with the keyboard than type&#8230; with the iPhone, its keyboard is used ONLY for typing. The keyboard on WebOS phones&#8211;and even on the Treos and Centro as well&#8211;double as any other kind of control. The most common non-typing use for the Palm keyboard is a shortcut to programs or phone numbers: if you hold down, say, the H-key for two seconds, you can call your friend. Hold down the D-key and you load up your email. Easy and quick!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nick15</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-180940</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thought I&#039;d toss in a few thoughts about this article, even though it&#039;s a half-a-year old...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Well, it isn’t great. ... The execution ... especially on the early units, was really unfortunate given how much else Palm got right.&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;It’s not all rosy for Palm, webOS, the Palm Pre, Palm Pixi, and their mobile strategy going forward.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, you gotta admit that it&#039;s not bad for something that was barely a year old (at the time the article was written). The iPhone 1 wasn&#039;t ANYTHING like you guys compared the Pre against, and certainly not as &quot;rosy&quot; as the iPhone 3GS was in January (hopefully you didn&#039;t forget the fact that it took about a year or two for the iPhone to get copy-and-pasting and video recording, right?)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I dare you to write an article comparing either the Pre to the iPhone 1, or the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 1, and see if ANYONE gets their execution perfect in their first year.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;He wanted the keyboard so much, as mentioned, he sacrificed screen real-estate on the Palm Pixi for it. I find that absurd.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think you got it the other way around. The iPhone sacrificed screen real-estate to stick the virtual keyboard in it, not the Pre. I mean, look at this:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.nick15.com/images3/youve.gotta.be.kidding.me.large.jpg&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At least with the Pre, I can type AND have ALL 480x320 pixels to myself. Typing on the iPhone means losing at least half of the screen in order to get some text in. Sure, it&#039;s not all the time you see the keyboard hogging up the screen on the iPhone, but at least with the Pre I can keep all 480x320 pixels 100% of the time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;some people have been so raised on physical keyboards, even on tiny little devices, that they wouldn’t transition to virtual even if, from an overall usability standpoint, they could or should.&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Smartphones are evolving beyond priority messaging devices to priority (data/media/etc.) consumption devices and hardware keyboards are legacy, bolted-on technology comforting for the former but waiting to be obsoleted when technology allows virtual keyboards to better serve the latter (and we’re part of the way there with the iPhone).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Should&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t quite understand where you&#039;ve come to the conclusion that virtual keyboards is the end-all, is-all way of keyboards, and that it&#039;s only a matter of time before anyone &quot;left&quot; using physical keyboards makes the &quot;transition&quot; over. Virtual keyboards have their place and their reasons to exist, but there&#039;s a reason why physical buttons and keyboards still exist on devices; I mean, why isn&#039;t the Home button, volume keys and the vibrate switch on the iPhone all on the touchscreen as well? (Not to mention other devices with touch screens like the upcoming Nintendo 3DS and those Logitech super remotes...)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You even said it yourself:
&quot;I won’t be writing novel-length compositions on a BlackBerry&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You recognize that people COULD write novel-length compositions on their devices, even if YOU don&#039;t. THAT&#039;S what physical keys are for, that&#039;s why they exist even on an iPhone; virtual keys can&#039;t fulfill 100% of a user&#039;s needs, 100% of the time... even the iPhone needs physical keys. (And don&#039;t start saying &quot;well the iPhone&#039;s physical keys are totally different than a physical keyboard&quot;... ok, how is it different then?)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;As I said, until this review, I would have whole-heartedly exclaimed “the era of physical keyboards is over”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, but you instead said &quot;the era of physical keyboards won&#039;t die because there are too many old farts who won&#039;t yield to the future!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Physical keyboards aren&#039;t &quot;the past&quot;, virtual keyboards aren&#039;t &quot;the future&quot;... they&#039;re &quot;an alternative&quot; from one-another. It&#039;s like saying that &quot;Pepsi is the future over Coca-Cola, that EVERYONE will make the switch to Pepsi sooner or later, because Pepsi is geared more towards younger drinkers&quot;. People aren&#039;t &quot;holding onto&quot; physical keyboards anymore than someone is &quot;holding onto&quot; their Mac or Windows computer; I prefer physical keys over virtual ones because I prefer the advantages of what physical keys bring over virtual keys--specifically muscle-memory. There is nothing &quot;outdated&quot; about that, unless you consider &quot;typing words with a higher rate of efficiency AND without having to resort to the auto-correct&quot; as &quot;outdated&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;One day haptics may be sufficiently advanced enough that mighty-morphin’, there-and-gone-again virtual-that-feel-like-physical keyboards are enough for everybody.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only times I&#039;ll make the switch to virtual keyboards is if somehow the touch screen can physically bulge out at specific points that replicate the actual feel of physical buttons, only to disappear when you don&#039;t need it. If that&#039;s what you meant here, then I totally agree with you there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;I’m so happy with the iPhone keyboard that I’ll never go back to a physical one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, good, I&#039;m glad you do. But don&#039;t assume that just because YOU like it, the rest of us SHOULD as well, and if we don&#039;t, we&#039;re actually lagging behind in the digital dust... or that we&#039;re just a bunch of fundamentalists who want to keep holding onto the &quot;past&quot;. There&#039;s room enough for both to co-exist, and it also doesn&#039;t mean that one will eventually replace the other either. I mean, why does the future have to be so narrow minded that only one type can exist?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One last thing:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Not having to engage forearm muscles to depress tiny keys and hold the rest of the phone stable while I do so is a huge advantage in my book.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...you have problems keeping a phone stable? I mean, you HAVE to engage your forearm muscles to hold a phone stable while you type?? (@_@) I can understand if the phone is like, 40 pounds. But for something that&#039;s barely 10 ounces, the only muscle that should be engaged while typing is your brain.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I&#8217;d toss in a few thoughts about this article, even though it&#8217;s a half-a-year old&#8230;</p>

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  <p>Well, it isn’t great. &#8230; The execution &#8230; especially on the early units, was really unfortunate given how much else Palm got right.</p>
  
  <p>It’s not all rosy for Palm, webOS, the Palm Pre, Palm Pixi, and their mobile strategy going forward.</p>
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<p>Well, you gotta admit that it&#8217;s not bad for something that was barely a year old (at the time the article was written). The iPhone 1 wasn&#8217;t ANYTHING like you guys compared the Pre against, and certainly not as &#8220;rosy&#8221; as the iPhone 3GS was in January (hopefully you didn&#8217;t forget the fact that it took about a year or two for the iPhone to get copy-and-pasting and video recording, right?)</p>

<p>I dare you to write an article comparing either the Pre to the iPhone 1, or the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 1, and see if ANYONE gets their execution perfect in their first year.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>He wanted the keyboard so much, as mentioned, he sacrificed screen real-estate on the Palm Pixi for it. I find that absurd.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I think you got it the other way around. The iPhone sacrificed screen real-estate to stick the virtual keyboard in it, not the Pre. I mean, look at this:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nick15.com/images3/youve.gotta.be.kidding.me.large.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.nick15.com/images3/youve.gotta.be.kidding.me.large.jpg</a></p>

<p>At least with the Pre, I can type AND have ALL 480&#215;320 pixels to myself. Typing on the iPhone means losing at least half of the screen in order to get some text in. Sure, it&#8217;s not all the time you see the keyboard hogging up the screen on the iPhone, but at least with the Pre I can keep all 480&#215;320 pixels 100% of the time.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>some people have been so raised on physical keyboards, even on tiny little devices, that they wouldn’t transition to virtual even if, from an overall usability standpoint, they could or should.</p>
  
  <p>Smartphones are evolving beyond priority messaging devices to priority (data/media/etc.) consumption devices and hardware keyboards are legacy, bolted-on technology comforting for the former but waiting to be obsoleted when technology allows virtual keyboards to better serve the latter (and we’re part of the way there with the iPhone).</p>
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<p>&#8220;Should&#8221;?</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand where you&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that virtual keyboards is the end-all, is-all way of keyboards, and that it&#8217;s only a matter of time before anyone &#8220;left&#8221; using physical keyboards makes the &#8220;transition&#8221; over. Virtual keyboards have their place and their reasons to exist, but there&#8217;s a reason why physical buttons and keyboards still exist on devices; I mean, why isn&#8217;t the Home button, volume keys and the vibrate switch on the iPhone all on the touchscreen as well? (Not to mention other devices with touch screens like the upcoming Nintendo 3DS and those Logitech super remotes&#8230;)</p>

<p>You even said it yourself:
&#8220;I won’t be writing novel-length compositions on a BlackBerry&#8221;</p>

<p>You recognize that people COULD write novel-length compositions on their devices, even if YOU don&#8217;t. THAT&#8217;S what physical keys are for, that&#8217;s why they exist even on an iPhone; virtual keys can&#8217;t fulfill 100% of a user&#8217;s needs, 100% of the time&#8230; even the iPhone needs physical keys. (And don&#8217;t start saying &#8220;well the iPhone&#8217;s physical keys are totally different than a physical keyboard&#8221;&#8230; ok, how is it different then?)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>As I said, until this review, I would have whole-heartedly exclaimed “the era of physical keyboards is over”.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>No, but you instead said &#8220;the era of physical keyboards won&#8217;t die because there are too many old farts who won&#8217;t yield to the future!&#8221;</p>

<p>Physical keyboards aren&#8217;t &#8220;the past&#8221;, virtual keyboards aren&#8217;t &#8220;the future&#8221;&#8230; they&#8217;re &#8220;an alternative&#8221; from one-another. It&#8217;s like saying that &#8220;Pepsi is the future over Coca-Cola, that EVERYONE will make the switch to Pepsi sooner or later, because Pepsi is geared more towards younger drinkers&#8221;. People aren&#8217;t &#8220;holding onto&#8221; physical keyboards anymore than someone is &#8220;holding onto&#8221; their Mac or Windows computer; I prefer physical keys over virtual ones because I prefer the advantages of what physical keys bring over virtual keys&#8211;specifically muscle-memory. There is nothing &#8220;outdated&#8221; about that, unless you consider &#8220;typing words with a higher rate of efficiency AND without having to resort to the auto-correct&#8221; as &#8220;outdated&#8221;.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>One day haptics may be sufficiently advanced enough that mighty-morphin’, there-and-gone-again virtual-that-feel-like-physical keyboards are enough for everybody.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The only times I&#8217;ll make the switch to virtual keyboards is if somehow the touch screen can physically bulge out at specific points that replicate the actual feel of physical buttons, only to disappear when you don&#8217;t need it. If that&#8217;s what you meant here, then I totally agree with you there.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>I’m so happy with the iPhone keyboard that I’ll never go back to a physical one.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Well, good, I&#8217;m glad you do. But don&#8217;t assume that just because YOU like it, the rest of us SHOULD as well, and if we don&#8217;t, we&#8217;re actually lagging behind in the digital dust&#8230; or that we&#8217;re just a bunch of fundamentalists who want to keep holding onto the &#8220;past&#8221;. There&#8217;s room enough for both to co-exist, and it also doesn&#8217;t mean that one will eventually replace the other either. I mean, why does the future have to be so narrow minded that only one type can exist?</p>

<p>One last thing:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Not having to engage forearm muscles to depress tiny keys and hold the rest of the phone stable while I do so is a huge advantage in my book.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>&#8230;you have problems keeping a phone stable? I mean, you HAVE to engage your forearm muscles to hold a phone stable while you type?? (@_@) I can understand if the phone is like, 40 pounds. But for something that&#8217;s barely 10 ounces, the only muscle that should be engaged while typing is your brain.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-154265</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 20:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gee GOLLY.. type the phrase &quot;round robin&quot; one more time, PLEASE.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee GOLLY.. type the phrase &#8220;round robin&#8221; one more time, PLEASE.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 21:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Went from the iPhone to the Palm Pixi.  Wish I would have done it months ago. Everything I need or want in a smaller package.  Hate the name. call it the Palm Jr.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went from the iPhone to the Palm Pixi.  Wish I would have done it months ago. Everything I need or want in a smaller package.  Hate the name. call it the Palm Jr.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Harry Binswanger</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-115945</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Binswanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the responses. I understand now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: kineard</title>
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		<dc:creator>kineard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With pre tether you can be the hot spot. I do not know how many connections it supports. A limit exist for sure. Oh and it only cost like $15 for the app no monthly fee. Why someone would pay Verizon for the tethering I do not know. I have sprint but no the less the tethering works fine. I don&#039;t need no stinking hot spot I am the hot spot. Better have a charger with you though because you can see the battery drain when you use it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With pre tether you can be the hot spot. I do not know how many connections it supports. A limit exist for sure. Oh and it only cost like $15 for the app no monthly fee. Why someone would pay Verizon for the tethering I do not know. I have sprint but no the less the tethering works fine. I don&#8217;t need no stinking hot spot I am the hot spot. Better have a charger with you though because you can see the battery drain when you use it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ACaplinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACaplinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Harry Binswanger, to clarify what @Jethrotull said: Yes, the Pre can use Wi-Fi hotspots at home, work, school, coffee shops, etc.  No, you don&#039;t NEED to be at a hotspot because it connects (as Jethrotull said) to your cell provider&#039;s 3G network.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Pre and Pre/Pixi Plus prefer to connect to known Wi-Fi networks (rather than EVDO) for several reasons: lower power consumption on Wi-Fi, ability to do both data and voice simultaneously, and a presumed speed boost via Wi-Fi.  iPhones do the same thing although being GSM, they already could do voice and data simultaneously.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Harry Binswanger, to clarify what @Jethrotull said: Yes, the Pre can use Wi-Fi hotspots at home, work, school, coffee shops, etc.  No, you don&#8217;t NEED to be at a hotspot because it connects (as Jethrotull said) to your cell provider&#8217;s 3G network.  </p>

<p>The Pre and Pre/Pixi Plus prefer to connect to known Wi-Fi networks (rather than EVDO) for several reasons: lower power consumption on Wi-Fi, ability to do both data and voice simultaneously, and a presumed speed boost via Wi-Fi.  iPhones do the same thing although being GSM, they already could do voice and data simultaneously.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jethrotull</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-113205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jethrotull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Harry Binswanger: You are referring to 3G, not wifi. If you have a data plan, you only have to get the signal (Sprint or Verizon) on your phone to be able to access the internet. Then with Verizon there&#039;s a hotspot application which allows you to link up to 5 devices to your phone. The pre would then act as a modem, connecting to the internet via 3G. Anyways, you can also get the hotspot application on the original pre, although it involves some hacking. Also the European GSM pre, has bluetooth tethering enabled (the same as the hotspot, but limited to one device and via bluetooth, obviously). If you need more detailed info, go straight to www.precentral.net. The guys will do their best to help you.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Harry Binswanger: You are referring to 3G, not wifi. If you have a data plan, you only have to get the signal (Sprint or Verizon) on your phone to be able to access the internet. Then with Verizon there&#8217;s a hotspot application which allows you to link up to 5 devices to your phone. The pre would then act as a modem, connecting to the internet via 3G. Anyways, you can also get the hotspot application on the original pre, although it involves some hacking. Also the European GSM pre, has bluetooth tethering enabled (the same as the hotspot, but limited to one device and via bluetooth, obviously). If you need more detailed info, go straight to <a href="http://www.precentral.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.precentral.net</a>. The guys will do their best to help you.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Harry Binswanger</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-112085</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Binswanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and can someone explain the Wi-Fi aspect of the Pre&#039;s? I understand that it can send &lt;em&gt;out&lt;/em&gt; a signal to several users, but can it &lt;em&gt;get&lt;/em&gt; a signal out of the air, wherever I am? With the Touch, I have to be at a hot-spot. Does the also?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and can someone explain the Wi-Fi aspect of the Pre&#8217;s? I understand that it can send <em>out</em> a signal to several users, but can it <em>get</em> a signal out of the air, wherever I am? With the Touch, I have to be at a hot-spot. Does the also?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Harry Binswanger</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-112083</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Binswanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just bought a Touch to have the PDA functions without being stuck with AT&amp;T. The absence of a Back button (which the Pre&#039;s have) is damn annoying. Also, with the Touch I find I have to struggle to re-type things (like passwords and URLs) over and over. I&#039;m hoping the Pre&#039;s solve my many irritations with the Touch.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a Touch to have the PDA functions without being stuck with AT&amp;T. The absence of a Back button (which the Pre&#8217;s have) is damn annoying. Also, with the Touch I find I have to struggle to re-type things (like passwords and URLs) over and over. I&#8217;m hoping the Pre&#8217;s solve my many irritations with the Touch.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ACaplinger</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111567</link>
		<dc:creator>ACaplinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111567</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;The physical keyboard is not dead, and not just because us old farts just can&#039;t get with the program.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The keyboard is very much intrinsically linked to universal search. Universal search on webOS (while not nearly as &quot;universal&quot; as iPhone&#039;s OS 3.0 search engine) is a global thing. From card view (swipe up once), you just start typing with the keyboard and it immediately searches app names, and contacts.  If none of those match your query, it gives you a choice to which search engine you&#039;d like to send the search terms.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In addition, the physical keyboard isn&#039;t just for us to type, it is a direct interface to the machine. Just the other day a Pre user I support brought his Pre to me in some weird, locked-up state. I did the Alt-Sym-R reboot and all was fine. That kind of direct-to-the-hardware connection simply cannot be duplicated with a software keyboard.  (Yes, I realize there is a hold-switch combo for that--I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve had to look it up.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, the physical keyboard plus the screen plus the gesture area gives us TONS of flexibility, with Gesture + keyboard presses, multi-key presses, gesture+taps and key-presses that modify gestures.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You want super speed dial?  Set any of the 26 letters as a shortcut key and from card view, press and hold that key for 2 seconds to dial that number.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m just sayin&#039;, there&#039;s more to physical keyboards than just typing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The physical keyboard is not dead, and not just because us old farts just can&#8217;t get with the program.</p>

<p>The keyboard is very much intrinsically linked to universal search. Universal search on webOS (while not nearly as &#8220;universal&#8221; as iPhone&#8217;s OS 3.0 search engine) is a global thing. From card view (swipe up once), you just start typing with the keyboard and it immediately searches app names, and contacts.  If none of those match your query, it gives you a choice to which search engine you&#8217;d like to send the search terms.</p>

<p>In addition, the physical keyboard isn&#8217;t just for us to type, it is a direct interface to the machine. Just the other day a Pre user I support brought his Pre to me in some weird, locked-up state. I did the Alt-Sym-R reboot and all was fine. That kind of direct-to-the-hardware connection simply cannot be duplicated with a software keyboard.  (Yes, I realize there is a hold-switch combo for that&#8211;I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve had to look it up.)</p>

<p>Also, the physical keyboard plus the screen plus the gesture area gives us TONS of flexibility, with Gesture + keyboard presses, multi-key presses, gesture+taps and key-presses that modify gestures.</p>

<p>You want super speed dial?  Set any of the 26 letters as a shortcut key and from card view, press and hold that key for 2 seconds to dial that number.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;, there&#8217;s more to physical keyboards than just typing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111508</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111508</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Because this article was too long and mostly useless, my criticisms are focused on very specific points as most of it was padded writing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1The hardware problems with the first Pres has totally disappeared in all devices form August and onward. Disinformation #1&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2-I have a screen protector on and it works quite well with the multitouch. It&#039;s not true that the phone is insensitive with a screen protector.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3-The attack on physical keyboard is silly. Some people like them, some don&#039;t. Having a physical keyboard does not mean a phone is ancient like is suggested above.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4-The end of the article is about vapourware about the alleged new iPhone and a weird way to end a review.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because this article was too long and mostly useless, my criticisms are focused on very specific points as most of it was padded writing.</p>

<p>1The hardware problems with the first Pres has totally disappeared in all devices form August and onward. Disinformation #1</p>

<p>2-I have a screen protector on and it works quite well with the multitouch. It&#8217;s not true that the phone is insensitive with a screen protector.</p>

<p>3-The attack on physical keyboard is silly. Some people like them, some don&#8217;t. Having a physical keyboard does not mean a phone is ancient like is suggested above.</p>

<p>4-The end of the article is about vapourware about the alleged new iPhone and a weird way to end a review.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111346</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111346</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;This review is very slanted and written by someone who feels threatened by a competing product and needs to reinforce the morale of the troops that their toy is still the best.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reviewer writes about the lack of contrasts in webOS. What the hell does that mean. What is she raving about? What contrast? A lot of the comments are cheap shots and not objective. Will have to write a longer rebuttal with a check list of all that&#039;s wrong with this article written in bad faith.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This review is very slanted and written by someone who feels threatened by a competing product and needs to reinforce the morale of the troops that their toy is still the best.</p>

<p>The reviewer writes about the lack of contrasts in webOS. What the hell does that mean. What is she raving about? What contrast? A lot of the comments are cheap shots and not objective. Will have to write a longer rebuttal with a check list of all that&#8217;s wrong with this article written in bad faith.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kws</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111340</link>
		<dc:creator>kws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111340</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sharp edges?  There are no sharp edges on the Pre.  That nonsense was started by an iphone fan boy at gizmodo.  Typing on it isn&#039;t bad all and it fits in one&#039;s hands and pocket better than the big brick form factor of the Droid and iphone.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharp edges?  There are no sharp edges on the Pre.  That nonsense was started by an iphone fan boy at gizmodo.  Typing on it isn&#8217;t bad all and it fits in one&#8217;s hands and pocket better than the big brick form factor of the Droid and iphone.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: WatersWest</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111159</link>
		<dc:creator>WatersWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111159</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great review Rene. I just wish Apple would &#039;borrow&#039; some ideas from Palm, especially when it comes to notifications.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review Rene. I just wish Apple would &#8216;borrow&#8217; some ideas from Palm, especially when it comes to notifications.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jbrandonf</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111120</link>
		<dc:creator>jbrandonf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111120</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I want to see webos on an iPhone form factor. I do prefer a virtual keyboard (but this depends on great auto-correct, in which the pre only has barebones functionality). Glass screen is a must.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to see webos on an iPhone form factor. I do prefer a virtual keyboard (but this depends on great auto-correct, in which the pre only has barebones functionality). Glass screen is a must.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: isurf</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111100</link>
		<dc:creator>isurf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 04:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111100</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I understand your point CJ and is cool but lol like next year can they call it something else? Something about Round Robin reminds me of Reddddd Robin lol&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your point CJ and is cool but lol like next year can they call it something else? Something about Round Robin reminds me of Reddddd Robin lol</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111087</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111087</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I enjoy the round robins as well.  I like to see the different perspectives.  Any Pre fanboy can give a positive review of the phone.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If it wasn&#039;t for the small screen and small keyboard, I&#039;d actually entertain the thought of owning a Pre.  But until those things change, I&#039;ll be an iPhone owner for many years to come.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy the round robins as well.  I like to see the different perspectives.  Any Pre fanboy can give a positive review of the phone.  </p>

<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for the small screen and small keyboard, I&#8217;d actually entertain the thought of owning a Pre.  But until those things change, I&#8217;ll be an iPhone owner for many years to come.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike S.</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111072</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 02:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111072</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Apple doesn&#039;t bring the iPhone to Verizon, it&#039;s the Palm Pre Plus for me. 
Love my 3GS but hating AT&amp;T more each day.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Apple doesn&#8217;t bring the iPhone to Verizon, it&#8217;s the Palm Pre Plus for me. 
Love my 3GS but hating AT&amp;T more each day.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111071</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 02:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111071</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;i like round robin lol&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like round robin lol</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DavidBarça</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111057</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidBarça</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111057</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Reptar</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111055</link>
		<dc:creator>Reptar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111055</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yawn! Bored too :(&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn! Bored too <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: keepitreal</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111051</link>
		<dc:creator>keepitreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111051</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, I&#039;m bored with the Round Robin, too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m bored with the Round Robin, too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: isurf</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111043</link>
		<dc:creator>isurf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cant wait till this Round Robin crap is done with lol&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cant wait till this Round Robin crap is done with lol</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chrisr</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111036</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=19699#comment-111036</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Palm pre is laggy&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palm pre is laggy</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: yeah</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111034</link>
		<dc:creator>yeah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i prefer an iphone :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;kailer.honore@facebookprivacy.net&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i prefer an iphone <img src='http://www.imore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p><a href="mailto:kailer.honore@facebookprivacy.net">kailer.honore@facebookprivacy.net</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: apple king</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111032</link>
		<dc:creator>apple king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That Palm C40 for sprint better have excellent hardware. i use a sprint pre along with my 3gs and webos is a excellent os just needs that hardware, hopefully that palm c40 will bring webos 1.5 and the hardware.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Palm C40 for sprint better have excellent hardware. i use a sprint pre along with my 3gs and webos is a excellent os just needs that hardware, hopefully that palm c40 will bring webos 1.5 and the hardware.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: macboy15</title>
		<link>http://www.imore.com/2010/01/24/palm-pre-palm-pix-webos-review-iphone-perspective-smartphone-robin/comment-page-1/#comment-111020</link>
		<dc:creator>macboy15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like the web os but not the hardware. Better then android IMO. Apple better step it up.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the web os but not the hardware. Better then android IMO. Apple better step it up.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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